JABB KP2.2.2 & GPO KP2.2.2 are out.

[Nickie Fønshauge]

Go get them (http://www.native-instruments.com/index.php?id=updates_us)

[Michael_uk]

Go get them (http://www.native-instruments.com/index.php?id=updates_us)

Just downloaded mine but haven't installed yet. I hope the finale update is close behind.

[rayzalaf]

I'll let you all try them out.

I've gone back to K1 for GPO
Only using K2 for Strad because I have to.

Ray

[Michael_uk]

Go get them (http://www.native-instruments.com/index.php?id=updates_us)

I just thought, are these GPO and JABB K2.2.2 updates 'approved' or 'authorised' by Gary this time? I expect they are as Gary did mention that all was going well when testing .. just checking.

[David Guinness]

Hi all,

I don't know about Gary's approval or disapproval of these updates, but I've just tried them, and with the standalone player, they have installed and played on my PC without a hitch! )(~ I also think the JABB update has improved the saxophones' tonality, I dunno how, maybe in the processing.

As far as integration into Finale, I think we still need an updated instrument list for the JABB update, but you can manually load them, and they play very well. (Please let me know if they have already released the new instrument list.)

So, at the moment, I'm very pleased with NI, and as always, with Garritan.

*() David G.

[Tony Monaghan]

Guys 'n gals, I'd wait till Gary makes an announcement, remember the last time?

[rayzalaf]

OK I couldn't resist downloading the update.
No more putting the kettle on while waiting on samples loading.

A great improvement.

Ray

[Markleford]

Gary's out of town for the moment. Tom will likely make an announcement instead.

- m

[KeithW]

Gary's out of town for the moment. Tom will likely make an announcement instead.

- m I've got the champagne on ice and ready to pop the cork.

***UPDATE*** I'm going to pop that cork. Everything installed perfectly and I'm up and running both stand alone and in Finale 2007.

Keith Walls

[qccowboy]

can you tell me, please, are you also running Finale 2006 on that computer?

does installing the updated player for Finale 2007 in any way affect Finale 2006 or previous versions?

Right now I do most of my work in Fin'06, becuase it's perfectly stable and plays back perfectly as well.

I want to know that if I install this update and it dosn't work as i hoped that I won't have lost the ability to use the old player in Fin'06.

(full version GPO, btw)

[Sharkbat]

I installed the Jazz and Big Band Library update, and it works fine. I downloaded the unauthorized GPO KP2 before, so do I need to install the new GPO KP2 update as well? The Jazz and Big Band update seems to have replaced the old KP2.

--Richard

[Tom Hopkins]

Gary's out of town for the moment. Tom will likely make an announcement instead.

- mNothing is ever "official" until we make the announcement. I will post that on a separate thread when I'm confident that everything looks good (so far, so good.) But the testing continues for now. Shouldn't take long - probably within the next few hours.

Tom

[Jaybee]

I installed the Jazz and Big Band Library update, and it works fine. I downloaded the unauthorized GPO KP2 before, so do I need to install the new GPO KP2 update as well? The Jazz and Big Band update seems to have replaced the old KP2.

--Richard

I'm pretty sure that would be a "Yes." Better to be on the safe side.

[KeithW]

can you tell me, please, are you also running Finale 2006 on that computer?

does installing the updated player for Finale 2007 in any way affect Finale 2006 or previous versions?

Right now I do most of my work in Fin'06, becuase it's perfectly stable and plays back perfectly as well.

I want to know that if I install this update and it dosn't work as i hoped that I won't have lost the ability to use the old player in Fin'06.

(full version GPO, btw)
Sorry, I don't know. I only have Finale 2007 on this computer. On my old computer, where I have both '06 and '07, they both seem to work, but the GPO and JABB that are on that machine are the old versions.

Keith Walls

[efiebke]

How well do these updates "play" with the MacPro computer?? I have new GPO and JABB software (never been opened) which I won't install on my new Intel MacPro workstation until the updates were made available. I'll wait until the offical announcement. I've waiting this long, I can wait a bit longer. When the official announcement is ready to be made, please mention how well they perform with the MacPro.

This is all very encouraging, though!

Happy composing, folks! :)

Ted

[Nickie Fønshauge]

does installing the updated player for Finale 2007 in any way affect Finale 2006 or previous versions?
If you don't ditch the old KP1 version, incl. its library files, F06 remains unaffected.

EDIT: Beware that the JABB KP2 installer messes up the old JABB KP1 library. If the new GPO KP2.2.2 installer does the same, you will have to restore the GPO KP1 library before you can use it.

Right now I do most of my work in Fin'06, becuase it's perfectly stable and plays back perfectly as well.
So is and does F07 for all I know, if you don't run GPO as a VST plugin, but instead route Finale's MIDI Out to KP2 (GPO) standalone via MIDI-Yoke or something similar.

[KeithW]

How well do these updates "play" with the MacPro computer?? I have new GPO and JABB software (never been opened) which I won't install on my new Intel MacPro workstation until the updates were made available. I'll wait until the offical announcement. I've waiting this long, I can wait a bit longer. When the official announcement is ready to be made, please mention how well they perform with the MacPro.

This is all very encouraging, though!

Happy composing, folks! :)

Ted
I've been running GPO and JABB K2 tonight on an Intel MacPro with absolutely no problems. Jump in the water and enjoy!

Keith Walls

[Nickie Fønshauge]

Incredible. They didn't fix the Presets bug properly. It is still not possible to load a Convolution preset. :mad:

But, at least the Stradivari load time is almost back to normal. That they did fix.

[Samantha Penigar]

With all the heart and drama from the first update for KP2 I'll wait. I did download the update and saved it in a folder on my desttop. I'm in no hurry to start pulling my hair out. I need to how this update works with Final 2007. I'm in the middle of a big project that has a June 30 deadline and had to go back to the Finale 2007 right out of the box with no upgrades to get rid of the crashes.

[Markleford]

Incredible. They didn't fix the Presets bug properly. It is still not possible to load a Convolution preset. :mad:
Drat! Start up the list for 2.2.3...

One trick you might want to try, if you use the same Convolution set-up every time, is to set up your effects and busses and then save it as a Multi with no instruments. It's sort of like having presets, but you can't change them after you've started building a Multi, as reloading would clear your instruments.

Actually, maybe the real problem is that preset *saving* is broken?


But, at least the Stradivari load time is almost back to normal. That they did fix.
One bug at a time, I guess. ;)

- m

[etLux]

Aren't we also going to need a Human Playback update for this
from MakeMusic for Finale?


David
www.DavidSosnowski.com
.

[Jon Bryson]

Well, I didn't try the update the first time around but couldn't resist trying it after the official announcement, so I imaged my drive and went for it. I then tried setting up an orchestral template and I have to say I like the changes quite a bit! Much shorter load times! Also the ability to load in more instruments into each instance cleans up my track list a bit.

I've got a bit of time coming up and intend to really put it through it's paces.

Jon

[Jon Bryson]

Aren't we also going to need a Human Playback update for this
from MakeMusic for Finale?


David
www.DavidSosnowski.com
.

Hmm. Time to search the forum again and see what the problems with Finale 2007 have been for people. I'd like to upgrade (from 2001) while MakeMusic is offering an upgrade special, but seem to have seen a lot of frustration with regards to how it works with GPO over at their forums?

Maybe this update helps somewhat? I think I'll sit back and watch for awhile longer unless I hear differently from a 'power' user :)

Jon

[etLux]

Aren't we also going to need a Human Playback update for this
from MakeMusic for Finale?


David
www.DavidSosnowski.com
.

I went around in circles with everyone else (probably worse) last
go-round... rofl. But I thought there was an issue with that...?

Or, of course, I may have accidentally landed on the wrong
planet again. Happens a lot to me.

Best,

David
www.DavidSosnowski.com
.

[Nickie Fønshauge]

Actually, maybe the real problem is that preset *saving* is broken?
No, I have plenty of presets, but can't load any of them. They show up in the menu and that's it. Nothing happens when I select a preset.

I think I will stick with K2 until further.

[Robert P]

Aren't we also going to need a Human Playback update for this
from MakeMusic for Finale?
Very much so. The latest HP update (2.1), fully compatible witht the latest KPL2 libraries (JABB, GPO, Gofriller, Strad) should be released anytime soon. It is final testing now, and truly, this is a matter of days now.

New new KPL2 libraries won't work well in Fin2007 at all until this is available.

Apart from that, I have not experience any crash or oddity with the latest K2 player in conjonction with Finale and HP. Cross my fingers...

Thanks for your patience, guys!
R.

[Andrew Koenig]

I think you said that the 2.2.2 update changes parts of the sample library, which means that KP1 will no longer work. Correct?

If so, that would seem to imply, for example, that if I have VST files laying around for KP1, say with names such Garritan JazzVST.DLL (version 1.1.93), I should get rid of them. Yes? What about Garritan Ambience.dll? Is that still workable, or does it require GPO KP1?

[Andrew Koenig]

New new KPL2 libraries won't work well in Fin2007 at all until this is available.


The folks at Finale said


We plan to support the new release of Kontakt Player 2 with the release of our new software coming this summer.

To me this suggests that you're not going to get KP2 working with Finale unless you spring for Finale 2008. I've asked them for clarification.

[Jon Bryson]

The folks at Finale said



To me this suggests that you're not going to get KP2 working with Finale unless you spring for Finale 2008. I've asked them for clarification.

I would be very interested in hearing what the response on this is. I wanted to take advantage of the current upgrade special, but too many things I've seen on the forum make me very hesitant.

Jon

[Robert P]

To me this suggests that you're not going to get KP2 working with Finale unless you spring for Finale 2008. I've asked them for clarification.
I could not say it better: there IS a free Finale 2007 Human Playback update in final testing for immediate release, fully compatible with KPL2, before Finale 2008 is released.

R.

[Andrew Koenig]

I could not say it better: there IS a free Finale 2007 Human Playback update in final testing for immediate release, fully compatible with KPL2, before Finale 2008 is released.

R.
You're obviously more knowledgeable about such matters than I. I hope you're also more knowledgeable than the person at Makemusic who responded to my query :-)

[henrymorris]

No, I have plenty of presets, but can't load any of them. They show up in the menu and that's it. Nothing happens when I select a preset.

I think I will stick with K2 until further.

Hiya Nickie .... is this your solution or am I misunderstanding you?
"- Impulse responses for the convolution effect are included and
must be loaded into the convoultion effect by drag and drop.
The impulse folder is located in the Kontakt Player 2 application
folder/presets/impulses. "
(this is from the Read Me text of the updates)

Once you've loaded one, it seems to remember the impulse folder and you can select the impulse from the Convolution window in Edit Effects in K2 player. It works fine for me. (Intel Mac)

best wishes

[Nickie Fønshauge]

Hiya Nickie .... is this your solution or am I misunderstanding you?
"- Impulse responses for the convolution effect are included and
must be loaded into the convoultion effect by drag and drop.
The impulse folder is located in the Kontakt Player 2 application
folder/presets/impulses. "
(this is from the Read Me text of the updates)

Once you've loaded one, it seems to remember the impulse folder and you can select the impulse from the Convolution window in Edit Effects in K2 player. It works fine for me. (Intel Mac)

best wishes
Henry, on a PC I can load an impulse by drag and drop and I can save it as a preset, but when I try to load a preset from the Presets menu, nothing, absolutely nothing, happens. :mad: Seems NI did a better job with the Mac version.

[Styxx]

Hm, I gather the updates will be available for quite some time, yes? I still haven't replaced me old PC. OK, will wait ..................

[henrymorris]

Seems NI did a better job with the Mac version.[/QUOTE]

http://northernsounds.com/forum/images/smilies/mad.gifActually, no, on further investigation I am getting pretty much exactly the same problems with my Mac! A bug, I presume. Annoying. Anybody else got any fixes for this? I am thinking it is probably because the files are installed in the wrong location.

[Andrew Koenig]

I could not say it better: there IS a free Finale 2007 Human Playback update in final testing for immediate release, fully compatible with KPL2, before Finale 2008 is released.

R.

It has now been a month since this message was posted, and since the folks at MakeMusic told me that they would not support KPL2 except as part of Finale 2008.

I continue to hope that Robert is right and the MM rep I spoke to was wrong, but I must say it isn't looking that way right now.

[Paulumos]

(5/22/07)

Nothing is ever "official" until we make the announcement. I will post that on a separate thread when I'm confident that everything looks good (so far, so good.) But the testing continues for now. Shouldn't take long - probably within the next few hours.

Tom

I'm confused. Was the GPO 2.2.2 update ever "blessed"? I don't see a subsequent "separate thread" on this and the "Update to Where We Are At - The Sequel" sticky has not been updated since started.

2.2.2 is the second GPO K2 release, correct? The first one was blessed but the second one maybe not yet?

Also, does (or will) the 2.2.2 update fix the percussion/filtering issue discussed in this thread? Or will this be addressed in a future update?

http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54140

Many thanks,

Paul