Giga VST Adapter

[andyt]

Hmm .. I think I\'ll hang-on till GS3 release now and give this a miss, now that TASCAM\'ve said it will have Rewire.

[P de Caumette]

I don\'t think you can use Rewire from a remote computer so the FX wrapper will be very useful to a lot of people...

[JonFairhurst]

Posted by Max on the Fx-Max forum on February 9th:

\"I\'d say chances about 99% for GVA to be released within next month.\"

Very cool.

http://www.fx-max.com/forum/ (\"http://www.fx-max.com/forum/\")

[sporter]

Good news. I\'ve recently discovered the joys of FX teleport...can\'t wait for this one!

[Leon Willett]

Yes, rewire is only good if it\'s on the same computer. The wrapper + FX Teleport should be perfect for a giga farm images/icons/smile.gif

[sporter]

I\'m hoping it will retain all the ***tionality of a vst in that you can render tracks to audio. This will make it as easy to use as Kontact in VST mode, yet it will be on a remote machine.

[P de Caumette]

Hi Sporter,

that\'s the whole point of the wrapper. You will be able to export your giga tracks to audio from your remote computer. You can see your 16 giga channels (32 with giga 160) in your workstation as well.
It works great images/icons/wink.gif

[Alan Russell]

Hi Patrick,

Superb Demos I heard lately from you!!

Anyway,

The fact that in Kontakt, things can get bounced in seconds is key to me. Unless I\'m wrong, Giga 3.0 will not make it to that step. It\'s true the FX-Teleport will get your midi tracks, .wav files to the Master machine but its the bounce to track features that makes me spend the dollars for the conveinence of not waiting for the track in real time to be recorded to .wav

Alan Russell

[sporter]

Originally posted by P de Caumette:
Hi Sporter,

that\'s the whole point of the wrapper. You will be able to export your giga tracks to audio from your remote computer. You can see your 16 giga channels in your workstation as well.
It works great images/icons/wink.gif <font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">That\'s what I wanted to hear!!! Quite frankly, this is bigger than GS 3.0, at least for my purposes.

Sounds like you might be a beta tester, or at least have had the opportunity to use it. Do you know if gigabit lan is a requirement?

[Alan Russell]

Sporter,

Gigalan is not required but having the choice, I use Gigalan for the bandwidth especially when audio is traveling down the pyke..

Alan Russell

[sporter]

Originally posted by Alan Russell:
Hi Patrick,

Superb Demos I heard lately from you!!

Anyway,

The fact that in Kontakt, things can get bounced in seconds is key to me. Unless I\'m wrong, Giga 3.0 will not make it to that step. It\'s true the FX-Teleport will get your midi tracks, .wav files to the Master machine but its the bounce to track features that makes me spend the dollars for the conveinence of not waiting for the track in real time to be recorded to .wav

Alan Russell <font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">I don\'t think Rewire will do the bounce to track..I think it\'s real time, and only works on the same machine. Seems to be quite a glaring omission on Tascam\'s part, but probably excellent news for FX-max. Can I buy some stock in FX-max??? images/icons/smile.gif

[P de Caumette]

Originally posted by Alan Russell:
Hi Patrick,
Superb Demos I heard lately from you!!
<font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">Thanks a lot Alan. As you know very well, jazz is not the prefered music style here. So when I get very little feedback about some of my music I start wondering whether I stink or not
images/icons/wink.gif


The fact that in Kontakt, things can get bounced in seconds is key to me. Unless I\'m wrong, Giga 3.0 will not make it to that step. It\'s true the FX-Teleport will get your midi tracks, .wav files to the Master machine but its the bounce to track features that makes me spend the dollars for the conveinence of not waiting for the track in real time to be recorded to .wav
<font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">Actually, FX Teleport allows you to bounce VSTIs to a wave file from slave machines as well, just like with Kontact in your main machine. You will be able to do the same with the Giga Wrapper.


Originally posted by Sporter:
this is bigger than GS 3.0, at least for my purposes. Do you know if gigabit lan is a requirement?
<font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">From what I gathered, I think Max is optimizing the Giga Wrapper for Giga 3.0. I think you will be able to recall patches in your remote computers using 3.0. In any case, it works very nicely with 2.5 at the moment.
And gigabit is not required. I have a 100 connection and it works well for my needs.

[Marko]

I have two computers networked. One of them has GS160 2 gigs of ram, Gina24, and 2 hard drives. The other has 2 hard drives and 2 gigs of ram, but no soundcard. Both computers run W2k. The network cards are Intel Pro/100 VE network cards (standard with the motherboards).

I have a crossover cable connecting them and the computers recognize each other and I can share files between them. Now I want to use the second computer for music. I am thinking of loading GS160 into it or loading it with one volume from EWQLSO.

What could I do with FX Teleport and this current setup?
What minimal upgrade to this system would I require?

I am open to a variety of suggestions.

Thank you.

Marko

[Jared Hudson]

OK, let me break this thread down to lamens terms.

So this new VST Wrapper will work for Giga 160, and allow me to load up QLSO for example?

Jared

[JonFairhurst]

Marko,

FxTeleport would let you run multiple instances of EWQLSO on your machine with no soundcard.

Here\'s how:

Run all your MIDI to the Giga PC. Use Bidule from plogue.com to route some MIDI ports to Giga and other MIDI ports to the remote instances of EWQLSO on the other machine. Then route the audio from the remote EWQLSOs to your Gina. I do this with GPO on the remote machine and an Echo MIA on my Giga machine.

When the GVA wrapper is available, you will be able to run a second Giga instance on the PC with no soundcard.

Jared,

The GVA wrapper will let you use Giga like a VSTi from a local sequencer. Adding FxTeleport lets you run Giga remotely on a machine with no soundcard. FxTeleport lets you run any VSTi remotely. It won\'t let you run EWQLSO on Giga, but it may help you run Giga and EWQLSO on two different machines, but with only one pro soundcard.

[Marko]

Thanks Jon.

[MusicalCharities]

Will the Giga VST adapater let me bounce to tracks in Sonar, without having to actually play the whole recording back?

[JonFairhurst]

I think it will still need to be in real-time, but you should be able to bounce many tracks in parallel.

You\'ll definitely want Gigabit Ethernet for that. When I run GPO over FxTeleport using 100Base-T it works great with two channels of audio - until I start my browser. With the browser on the latency goes nuts, and sometimes it bluescreens. It\'s solid without the browser running though. And it\'s good motivation to work on music, rather than play. images/icons/smile.gif

[Scott Cairns]

Jon or someone, could you please tell me, I have been playing around with the demo version of FX Teleport and was wondering if it is enough to copy the DLL\'s of various VST effects over to the slave machine or do I have to install Cubase on the slave in orderto properly register the dll\'s in windows.

Does anyone know?

In theory, could I copy my Atmosphere DLL and DAT file across without going through another install/authorisation?

Thanks guys. (Sorry to hijack)

[Marko]

Jon and others,

Excuse my density on this topic. I have two more questions on a two computer set up:

a. When you say route the audio from the remote computer with the EWQLSO to my Gina24 card, what do you mean? What sort of connection are you talking about? The remote computer does not have a sound card. So what exactly do I route to the Gina24? What kind of pathway are you describing? Will this be obvious in FX Teleport?

b. I am a bit foggy on the MIDI connection here. How does the MIDI signal from my master computer get to the remote computer? Will the crossover cable suffice for this? Does MIDI get transmitted by FX teleport through the crossover cable? Do I need a separate MIDI over LAN software program?

Marko

[JonFairhurst]

Scott,

I\'ve just use FxTeleport with GPO. I did a full install and registration. I have no idea what Atmosphere would require.

Marko,

My setup is really weird. I\'ll try to describe it.

PC-A is my laptop. It has Sibelius, Cakewalk, GPO and a cr@p soundcard.

PC-B has GigaStudio. It also has an Echo MIA and my MIDI interface to the keyboard.

The MIDI from the keyboard goes straight to Giga on PC-B. It also connects to PC-A using MOL. I use Bidule on PC-B to make the MIDI input to MOL connection.

The sequencer/notator on PC-A gets keyboard MIDI from MOL. It sends MIDI out to multiple MOL ports.

On PC-B the MIDI from they sequencer/notator comes in from MOL. I use Bidule to route some of the ports to Giga.

I also use Bidule to route the seq/notator MIDI to a remote copy of GPO on PC-A. FxTeleport makes this fairly transparent. It just looks like another plugin. Try FxTeleport\'s demo to see what I mean.

Also in Bidule on PC-B I route the remote GPO output to my Echo MIA soundcard.

Surprisingly the latency is really low with this crazy setup.

What\'s nice is that I can play the keyboard directly into Giga even if the laptop isn\'t there. I can use the laptop on the road using GPO Studio directly on my cr@p soundcard. And when it\'s all together I can push Giga to the limit and use GPO at the same time.

I hope that\'s clear. I should probably have drawn a block diagram instead!

Edit: This would have been simpler if I just had \"Audio Over Lan\" (AOL - I think the name is taken!) to go along with MOL. FxTeleport routes MIDI out and Audio back as a pair, so I needed to do my crazy routing.