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shirrefs
08-23-2007, 09:18 AM
Is there a way of softening the attack of individual tremolo notes that are meant to be played in a smooth, seamless melody? The way Overture 4 sets the tremolo looks right - it has the Legato/Sustain on, which should blend the notes somewhat, and I even tried using slurs in an attempt to create a seamless flow. However what I get is every note starting with a strong, distinct attack, making it sound more like heavy marcato. There must be some trick to this, because, although the tremolo is kicking in perfectly, the way it sounds at the moment is a tad bizarre.
Raymond62
08-23-2007, 10:57 AM
Once I tried to have the same note [not tremolo-ed] in another track with the same duration as the whole tremolo. Play this softly.
The mix is wonderful and will diminish the attack. Experiment with it.
Raymond
Reegs
08-23-2007, 11:07 AM
Ray offers a good suggestion.
You could also overlap the notes slightly like you're doing, cut the velocity on the track and play around with the portamento controls and pitch bend. I've found a very low velocity (like, 2 or 3), with a Porta (CC20) value around 100 and a teeny bend up/down on the edge of the note makes it sound very good. Also, mod wheel!!!!!!!
Best of luck,
Reegs
snorlax
08-23-2007, 02:57 PM
Is there a way of softening the attack of individual tremolo notes that are meant to be played in a smooth, seamless melody? The way Overture 4 sets the tremolo looks right - it has the Legato/Sustain on, which should blend the notes somewhat, and I even tried using slurs in an attempt to create a seamless flow. However what I get is every note starting with a strong, distinct attack, making it sound more like heavy marcato. There must be some trick to this, because, although the tremolo is kicking in perfectly, the way it sounds at the moment is a tad bizarre.
Hi...
Try dialing down the note's velocity. Assuming you are using a sustaining instrument, reducing the velocity should soften the attack.
Depending on what instrument you are using, there may be a tremolo layer you can access via keyswitch, also controllable by Overture. I'd use that before I created a tremolo in Overture 4.
You might tell us what instrument you were trying to tremolo, then we could offer more concrete advice.
Jim
shirrefs
08-23-2007, 08:52 PM
Thanks Jim - I actually did reduce all the note velocities, but they still chop in alarmingly. However, after the initial attack, the sustained tremolo sounds perfect - until the next note chops in.
I'm using a solo KS violin for this - I've tried the Gagl. and the Strad., both do the same thing. Here's an example of a passage (w.2 voices on the stave) and the tremolo settings in Overture for the Gagli.KS Solo:
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x201/shirrefs/Tremolo_1.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x201/shirrefs/Tremolo_2.jpg
Is there anything obviously amiss?
snorlax
08-24-2007, 12:12 AM
Thanks Jim - I actually did reduce all the note velocities, but they still chop in alarmingly. However, after the initial attack, the sustained tremolo sounds perfect - until the next note chops in.
I'm using a solo KS violin for this - I've tried the Gagl. and the Strad., both do the same thing. Here's an example of a passage (w.2 voices on the stave) and the tremolo settings in Overture for the Gagli.KS Solo:
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x201/shirrefs/Tremolo_1.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x201/shirrefs/Tremolo_2.jpg
Is there anything obviously amiss?
Depends on what you want to hear. Right now you have it set to metronomic precision (measured trem.) That could be why you're hearing heavy attacks--they're all hitting at the same time. Perhaps you want the unmeasured variety, each with a slightly different setting.
Additionally, you have the keyswitch set to a trem layer, so you are doing double duty. Try it without the keyswitch.
HTH...
Jim
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