Controlling the GS computer

[Plundrik]

Hello.
I\'m wondering if there is a way that I can control my dedicated GS computer from my main DAW computer? I hate having to get up from the chair everytime I need to load a new sample or change anything (lazy me). Is it possible to control other computers in a network? What about the remote assistance feature in XP? The VST adapter plus fx-teleport will be a solution, but that option isn\'t available yet..

thanks for any advice! images/icons/smile.gif

[JVB]

Hi,

check out realvnc beta version 4.

http://www.realvnc.com/ (\"http://www.realvnc.com/\")

It\'s for free too ...

JVB.

[Plundrik]

Yes! Thanks JVB, I\'ll take a look! images/icons/smile.gif

[Mattias Henningson]

The built-in Remote Desktop in XP works great for this.

/Mattias

[paulamone]

I don\'t know much more resources these feature
will suck from the computer. Is slowing down the
computer a concern here?

[Mattias Henningson]

Originally posted by paulamone:
Is slowing down the
computer a concern here?<font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">No.

/Mattias

[PeterRoos]

Wow, this sure looks interesting!
I use a Belkin KVM switch for my 4 audio PC\'s and have occasional loss of mouse control. Is this tool really a solid alternative? If you control 3 remote PC\'s from your DAW, does it really not incur any serious CPU load for the DAW?

[T Parks]

Peter,

I\'d imagine using it across that many PCs could cause serious bandwidth problems.

[PeterRoos]

Maybe I can test that, with network monitoring on my DAW and then adding connections...

GigaStudio indeed does a lot of window \"painting\", which will be trapped by the RealVNC server software (using low level hooks into Windows), so maybe it will use significant system and network resources.

I just installed it at home to control my old Pentium-1 NT4 email server and it works great! Especially because that machine does not have monitor for itself, hehe.

So, JVB, thanks for the pointer to this free tool anyway images/icons/smile.gif

[Mattias Henningson]

Peter,
I can only speak for myself of course, but I do control my 3 Giga/Kontakt/FXTeleport computers from my main DAW with Remote Desktop. I have never had any bandwidth problems with this and I usually have all three windows open (but minimized). My experience is that RD is quite intelligent when it comes to screen updates and it\'s certainly more responsive than VNC and the likes (yes, I have used most of the free and commercial packages available before including some flavors of VNC...). I often do tricks like running RD sessions from within other RD sessions for other purposes and even in those cases I can hardly detect that I\'m remoting the machine when running in full-screen mode. Also, you can create shortcuts to the different machines including logon data on your main DAW. That way you can simply close the RD window in between and open it again with just a click if you feel that you\'d like to optimize the network traffic for some reason.

/Mattias

[audiophile]

I may be stupid or it is too late, but I find this Windows Remote Desktop really difficult to setup, compared to the 1 minute it took me to setup WinVNC.

[nikki-k]

Hi!
When using Remote Desktop, I am having a problem with the audio drivers being present.
I log into the \"remote\" system, and am prompted with a dialog saying I need to log off the remote computer.
I do so, or let it do so itself, and then RD connects, and all seems fine, but no audio drivers (error I get when trying to launch Giga from the controlling system.

Evidently I have done something wrong images/icons/wink.gif Any idea what? Or is it extreme blondeness?

What kind of setup for using FXteleport?
I have a netgear 10/100 router (wired, not wireless; cable modem on WAN port; house is wired with cat5e), but have been thinking of adding a Gigabit switch to my home network for better performance if I go FXteleport. Trying to decide between that or running 30ft of lightpipe between the two rooms, and using MIDIoverLAN..

[PeterRoos]

Originally posted by Mattias Henningson:
Peter,
I can only speak for myself of course, but I do control my 3 Giga/Kontakt/FXTeleport computers from my main DAW with Remote Desktop. I have never had any bandwidth problems with this and I usually have all three windows open (but minimized). My experience is that RD is quite intelligent when it comes to screen updates and it\'s certainly more responsive than VNC and the likes (yes, I have used most of the free and commercial packages available before including some flavors of VNC...). I often do tricks like running RD sessions from within other RD sessions for other purposes and even in those cases I can hardly detect that I\'m remoting the machine when running in full-screen mode. Also, you can create shortcuts to the different machines including logon data on your main DAW. That way you can simply close the RD window in between and open it again with just a click if you feel that you\'d like to optimize the network traffic for some reason.

/Mattias <font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">Sounds good, Mattias

However, I run GigaStudio under Win98, because that works so well for me images/icons/wink.gif Otherwise RD would be indeed a good option, I use it for other tasks already.

[Scott Cairns]

I\'ve been running Real VNC for a couple of years now but after reading the posts here I decided to give the XP Remote Desktop a go.

I have to say it is about 1000% smoother than VNC.

Two small annoyances though;

- I had to create a password for every machine on the network (probably not such a bad idea really) so each machine has to have a password entered now when I boot up.

- The XP Remote Desktop does not let you shutdown other computers (VNC does). This means unless you have a KVM switch you will need a keyboard in every machine to shutdown. You also need to remember the shortcut keys to do it if you cant see the desktop at that time. The shortcut is; Windows key, U, U.

I also tried Nuno\'s idea of running the Desktop Manager;

http://www.scottcairns.com/images/DM.gif

This lets you store up to 4 different desktop views. So what I do is launch DAW-2 and DAW-3 (my two secondary machines) with the XP Remote Desktop software first, and then I save those views in the Desktop Manager.

After that, I simply click 1,2, or 3 to toggle between my three DAWS.

Pretty cool. images/icons/smile.gif

[PeterRoos]

Anyone with a fast alternative to control W98 machines? I was hoping I might get 3-4 noisy PC\'s out of my working room with such a remote control. Oh well, I prolly first test the resource drain of RealVNC...

[Mattias Henningson]

Originally posted by Scott Cairns:
- The XP Remote Desktop does not let you shutdown other computers<font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">Three alternatives... images/icons/wink.gif

1. Open task manager on the remote machine and select \"Turn off\" in the Shutdown menu.

2. In a command window type \"shutdown -s\" (or make a bat-file doing this.

3. Read this support article Q303070 (\"http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;303070\") from Microsoft and follow the configuration alternative...

/Mattias

[Scott Cairns]

Thanks Mattias. images/icons/smile.gif

I noticed it said that you can use CTRL+ALT+END - then shutdown for Remote Connections. As opposed to the standard CTRL+ALT+DEL for a local machine.

Very cool!

[Haydn]

The Ctrl+Alt+End is very handy. I use the Remote Desktop Connection to control on the average of 6 computers (both servers and workstations) and it really is handy. My machine at work is only a PIII 450 MHz machine and it doesn\'t slow it down at all having all these connections open.

[Mattias Henningson]

Peter,

Did you test NetMeeting for remote control of Win98 already? I knew that I\'ve seen something about that before. Check out MS support article (\"http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;233175\") for further info. Maybe it\'s more efficient than VNC.

/Mattias