Piano Library Beta

[jeremy.saenz]

UPDATE: AARRON DIRK HAS BROUGHT SUPPORT FOR A KONTAKT VERSION! THE OLD LINK IS NOW UPDATED WITH A KONTAKT NKI AND AN EXS24 UPDATE

I am proud to announce the public beta of my Delicate Hollywood Piano Sample Library!

The samples come from a beautiful yamaha upright and have a very rich, round tone. The format is exs24 and Kontakt for now
*** Keep in mind that this is free, and it is not Ivory or Galaxy, but it is pretty decent. In fact, It has a totally different and unique tone.

EXS-24 files
http://thomas.wildlight.se/mirror/EX...ywoodPiano.zip (http://thomas.wildlight.se/mirror/EXS_TheDelicateHollywoodPiano.zip)

Kontakt nki file
http://thomas.wildlight.se/mirror/Ko...ywoodPiano.zip (http://thomas.wildlight.se/mirror/Kontakt_TheDelicateHollywoodPiano.zip)

The samples
http://thomas.wildlight.se/mirror/Sa...ywoodPiano.zip (http://thomas.wildlight.se/mirror/Samples_TheDelicateHollywoodPiano.zip)

Enjoy and God Bless,

Jeremy

[AlexDavis]

Downloading now, I look forward to hearing it!

-Alex

[jeremy.saenz]

Thanks, I hope you like it!

[marce]

Downloading now. Maybe in the afternoon i can test it. Thanks!

[Will Roget]

What can I say? Extremely nice job, man!!

Honestly this is a must-have, even if you have bigger / more detailed pianos. Dude wasn't kidding when he said the timbre is unique and delicate. Especially well-suited to stuff like the Thomas Newman sound:

http://www.rogetmusic.com/temp/delicate_hollywood-perdition.mp3 (approximated mockup of a cue from Road to Perdition)


My only complaint would be some of the sample lengths/decays being kinda on the short side, and maybe some of the velocity layers having big jumps. But I mean, that's the difference between a 100mb piano and a 1gb piano, so it's hard to complain really. BTW I uploaded my KT2.2 patch for it, I got the piano last night before Aaron put up his -

http://www.rogetmusic.com/temp/The%20Delicate%20Hollywood%20Piano.nki (mine might be slightly different - K2 converted it weird so I had to remap
the velocity layers and recenter one of the samples... also I threw in a limiter)


Thanks again!! :)

[Nigel W]

That's really kind, Jeremy-thank you! A really nice piano, something different & special.

Nigel

[jeremy.saenz]

What can I say? Extremely nice job, man!!

Honestly this is a must-have, even if you have bigger / more detailed pianos. Dude wasn't kidding when he said the timbre is unique and delicate. Especially well-suited to stuff like the Thomas Newman sound:

http://www.rogetmusic.com/temp/delicate_hollywood-perdition.mp3 (approximated mockup of a cue from Road to Perdition)


My only complaint would be some of the sample lengths/decays being kinda on the short side, and maybe some of the velocity layers having big jumps. But I mean, that's the difference between a 100mb piano and a 1gb piano, so it's hard to complain really. BTW I uploaded my KT2.2 patch for it, I got the piano last night before Aaron put up his -

http://www.rogetmusic.com/temp/The%20Delicate%20Hollywood%20Piano.nki (mine might be slightly different - K2 converted it weird so I had to remap
the velocity layers and recenter one of the samples... also I threw in a limiter)


Thanks again!! :)

Thanks Will
I programmed it on my ppc mac mini so I had to shorten the samples for that.
But I will release an extended version with longer samples. (because the original decay is much longer)

Also, I am editing it in the original exs editor, which is a nightmare. Once I get Kontakt and keymap the vel transitions will be much smoother.

This is the first instrument I ever sampled, and I was so suprised with how much life these samples bring to the table for an upright!

Jeremy

[Nick Harvey]

Great stuff Jeremy! Thanks for that. I do love the character of an upright piano.

Nick

[marce]

Hi Jeremy. I have some issue, that maybe some others can have. I dont own any commercial sampler (kontakt, giga, etc) only players (kontakt player, etc). The only sampler i have is the free SFZ. I used the chickensys translator to translate it to SFZ, but no luck. After some experiments (converting the aiff files to wav and modifying the sfz file) i can load it but no sound. I will try to see this night what is going wrong with the sfz, but meanwhile, if anyone has experience or any tip what im missing, i would apreciate any help

[Jake Johnson]

Is anyone else finding Lulu to be extremely slow for downloading?

[jeremy.saenz]

Is anyone else finding Lulu to be extremely slow for downloading?

Sorry for it being really slow, I just don't have the bandwidth like Lulu does

[jeremy.saenz]

Hi Jeremy. I have some issue, that maybe some others can have. I dont own any commercial sampler (kontakt, giga, etc) only players (kontakt player, etc). The only sampler i have is the free SFZ. I used the chickensys translator to translate it to SFZ, but no luck. After some experiments (converting the aiff files to wav and modifying the sfz file) i can load it but no sound. I will try to see this night what is going wrong with the sfz, but meanwhile, if anyone has experience or any tip what im missing, i would apreciate any help

The only other option I can think of is the Kontakt Demo, You can load the nki version for 30 minutes at a time and there is no expiration date! (I might not be positive for the Kontakt 3 demo)

Let me know what sequencer you use and I will do my best to help!

God Bless,
Jeremy

[koolkeys]

Jeremy, I can mirror your file for you if you wish. We can work out the details if you want. Just PM me.

Brent

[BenBotkin]

Jeremy, thanks for putting this together! )(~

I would really appreciate a mirrored version, and I'm sure several others would also.

[jeremy.saenz]

Thanks for your replies everyone.
There will be a couple mirrors soon and once i get my site up this weekend, I will have my own downloads. Thanks for the support, I am glad you like the library!

[Jake Johnson]

After a very slow connection to Lulu all day, I was able to download the piano fairly fast last night after 9:00. Many people may have been trying to download at once, or Lulu might have been out of town.

Haven't had the chance to play it yet, though...

[ThomasL]

I've just sent Jeremy some links so there should be at least one mirror up in a few minutes(?)...


Best
Thomas

[jeremy.saenz]

Here are the Mirror links!

EXS-24 files
http://thomas.wildlight.se/mirror/EX...ywoodPiano.zip (http://thomas.wildlight.se/mirror/EXS_TheDelicateHollywoodPiano.zip)

Kontakt nki file
http://thomas.wildlight.se/mirror/Ko...ywoodPiano.zip (http://thomas.wildlight.se/mirror/Kontakt_TheDelicateHollywoodPiano.zip)

The samples
http://thomas.wildlight.se/mirror/Samples_TheDelicateHollywoodPiano.zip


Thanks again Thomas,

Jeremy

[jeremy.saenz]

I have questions for all of you... I plan to make many more libraries like this, and create a site where you can download them for free and have tutorials and other free premium samples. (I don't want any bad ones)

Should I go for it??

Will you guys be all for it??

Any possible names for the site???

Anybody want to submit their own samples? (I may not accept them if they are not good)



After a very slow connection to Lulu all day, I was able to download the piano fairly fast last night after 9:00. Many people may have been trying to download at once, or Lulu might have been out of town.

Haven't had the chance to play it yet, though...

Thanks for your patience Jake, I know alot of people were trying to download at once. now I have mirrors, and soon I will have it on it's own site.

[aug25]

yes you should go for it

yeah ithink the quailty will be great

name.....hm.......:)

[Ashermusic]

Here are the Mirror links!

EXS-24 files
http://thomas.wildlight.se/mirror/EX...ywoodPiano.zip (http://thomas.wildlight.se/mirror/EXS_TheDelicateHollywoodPiano.zip)

Kontakt nki file
http://thomas.wildlight.se/mirror/Ko...ywoodPiano.zip (http://thomas.wildlight.se/mirror/Kontakt_TheDelicateHollywoodPiano.zip)

The samples
http://thomas.wildlight.se/mirror/Sa...ywoodPiano.zip (http://thomas.wildlight.se/mirror/Sa...ywoodPiano.zip)


Thanks again Thomas,

Jeremy
The samples link is not working here, "can't find the URL", etc. but the other 2 did.

[jeremy.saenz]

Thanks Jay,

It is fixed, it was just a problem with copying.

Hope you enjoy it!

Jeremy

[Jake Johnson]

Thanks for creating and sharing this piano. Can you tell us more about the actual piano--it's a Yamaha upright, your original post says, but could tell us more:

Model, age, location, size of room, micing distance, types of mics used, what you had for breakfast before recording, etc.

This information helps when we try to edit the instrument (and just toy around). The details tell us what is contributing to the sound and help us understand what sound we're trying to recreate from the samples. (It took me a long time to understand, for example, the difference in the way a Steinway B and a Steinway D sounded, and that samples from each responded to different edits in very different ways.)


Thanks again.

[jeremy.saenz]

It is a low action 6 month old (yes. a newborn) Yamaha upright.

Location: High ceiling Choir room, Mission Viejo, Ca

Mics: Two identical brand new m-one lollipop condensers (one was on figure 8)

Placements: Close, verry close to the strings (to get all the detail)

Conditions: Did it on a stormy day... Could anyone tell???

Anything Else?

-Jeremy

[resloan]

Hi,

Any hope for a Windows version?

[jeremy.saenz]

You mean with wav files, because kontakt can support both i think.

[resloan]

Yes. After I opened the zip archive, I saw the Mac OSX reference and the aiff files. I have Kontakt 2, but use WXP OS.
Thanks

[ddarwin7]

Should I go for it??
Will you guys be all for it??


Yes all the way. Thanks for the piano, I downloaded it, but did not get a chance to try it out myself yet. I will this weekend, and I will post my comments. Thanks a million Jeremy.

Dd

[jeremy.saenz]

Yes. After I opened the zip archive, I saw the Mac OSX reference and the aiff files. I have Kontakt 2, but use WXP OS.
Thanks

Kontakt 2 will import Aiff files, regardless of the operating system. Just download the nki and you will be fine

[marce]

The only other option I can think of is the Kontakt Demo, You can load the nki version for 30 minutes at a time and there is no expiration date! (I might not be positive for the Kontakt 3 demo)

Let me know what sequencer you use and I will do my best to help!

God Bless,
Jeremy

Thanks the tip. After dealing with it a little, i found the problem. Chickensys Translator appear dont make a good job translating the nki or exs files to SFZ. It add a filter cutoff to all the layers and others weird parameters, like extremely short release values. I fixed them, and now is working. But im not sure if the Translator proggie has added something more weird that im not noting. I will try to load the original nki file to hear it and compare with what im getting.

BTW, i cant find where to download a demo of Kontakt3

[Justus]

I have questions for all of you... I plan to make many more libraries like this, and create a site where you can download them for free and have tutorials and other free premium samples. (I don't want any bad ones)

Should I go for it??

Will you guys be all for it??

Any possible names for the site???

Anybody want to submit their own samples? (I may not accept them if they are not good)




Thanks for your patience Jake, I know alot of people were trying to download at once. now I have mirrors, and soon I will have it on it's own site.
Great idea!! Looking forward to this.
May be I could provide a few of my custom samples??

[jeremy.saenz]

Ya, I would love to check out your samples. And of course I will give you credit & everything like that:o

[Justus]

BTW, I like the sound of your piano!!!
Is it possible that the samples are a bit delayed?
Has anybody encountered this or is it just me? ;)

Best,
Justus

[jeremy.saenz]

Yes, part of my releasing of the beta is that I can have these things known. I have yet to try it out on a weighted keyboard, so it was hard for me to tell while programming. The delays will be gone and the samples will be extended in the full version

Thanks and God Bless,

Jeremy

[electone2007]

Hi, Jeremy!

Big thanks for this amazing free piano. I downloaded it yesterday together with the *.nki and made my own NKI preset out of it, if that's ok with you.

It sounds wonderful! I like it! I've recorded 'Amazing Grace' with it but don't know how to share it here.

God bless.

Jun

[Journeyman]

Quick OT question: Ideally, when sampling for EXS24, should I be creating wav files or aiff? Thanks!

[jeremy.saenz]

Quick OT question: Ideally, when sampling for EXS24, should I be creating wav files or aiff? Thanks!

Aiff... Exs is Mac only now, & you might as well use the OSX Native format, better to use with mac only sample editors, loopers, ect.

[Journeyman]

Thanks Jeremy!

[ddarwin7]

Hi Jeremy:

I Tied to load it in K2 but the patches look like they were created from a newer version of K2 than mine. So, I could not get it to work. Then I tried to load and program samples in GS3, but GS3 does not recognize Aiff. It only recognizes wav. I guess I am out of luck. Thanks anyway Jeremy. Maybe in the future I may Upgrade to the newer K2 version, so I can use this piano.

Dd

[jeremy.saenz]

Hi Jeremy:

I Tied to load it in K2 but the patches look like they were created from a newer version of K2 than mine. So, I could not get it to work. Then I tried to load and program samples in GS3, but GS3 does not recognize Aiff. It only recognizes wav. I guess I am out of luck. Thanks anyway Jeremy. Maybe in the future I may Upgrade to the newer K2 version, so I can use this piano.

Dd

You should be able to update your kontakt version, or map the samples yourself. The files are pretty self explanatory. the key order, starting with one, goes. A, C, D#, F#, all the way up the all the samples... The last sampled C is only one key.

Hope you can use it...

Jeremy

[koolkeys]

Hi Jeremy:

I Tied to load it in K2 but the patches look like they were created from a newer version of K2 than mine. So, I could not get it to work. Then I tried to load and program samples in GS3, but GS3 does not recognize Aiff. It only recognizes wav. I guess I am out of luck. Thanks anyway Jeremy. Maybe in the future I may Upgrade to the newer K2 version, so I can use this piano.

Dd

What version are you using? There isn't a new version of Kontakt2. So you should be able to download the update and play it. Or maybe it's an issue I'm missing? Sorry if it is. I'm just curious how it wouldn't play this.

Again, maybe I missed something?

Brent

[ddarwin7]

What version are you using? There isn't a new version of Kontakt2. So you should be able to download the update and play it. Or maybe it's an issue I'm missing? Sorry if it is. I'm just curious how it wouldn't play this.

Again, maybe I missed something?

Brent

I got it to work now. I was using K2 2.1.1. I never updated to the 2.2 version because I thought it was a paid upgrade. I could have swore that I've seen this as a upgrade purchase. But anyway I logged into NI site and checked for updates and 2.2.1 and 2.2.3 were availabe. So I updated it and all's well now.

Thanks
Dd

[koolkeys]

That's what I thought. I figured that you just weren't aware. But glad you got it sorted!

Brent

[ddarwin7]

Ok, finally got a chance to try this little piano. Quite a nice little free gift. Thanks Jeremy. Uprights always tend to sound warmer than grands. I could just imagine that a perfect combination would be the woodier warmth of an upright combined with the grandioso of a grand. I think that would be a perfect combination for a rewarding piano experience.

Things that could use some updates are, better stereo spread, elimination of sample delay, velocity and timbre consistency note to note, and smoother sample velocity transitions. Regarding the stereo spread, I am comparing the sound to some other libraries that were recorded in stereo. Sorry, I am not being critical, just pointing some possible updates in the future. Overall I like this piano, just want to make it more playable and enjoyable.

I was wondering how to get a better stereo spread with this piano? It sounds more mono than most libraries, can I just run it through a mono to stereo reverb. I guess It still won't be true stereo and probably only simulated. Any comments.

Hey Jeremy, how did you sample the velocities, did you use any mechanical devices to get the appropriate velocities or just used your fingers and guestimated the strike.

Thanks Jeremy for the freebie

[jeremy.saenz]

Ok, finally got a chance to try this little piano. Quite a nice little free gift. Thanks Jeremy. Uprights always tend to sound warmer than grands. I could just imagine that a perfect combination would be the woodier warmth of an upright combined with the grandioso of a grand. I think that would be a perfect combination for a rewarding piano experience.


Thanks for trying out the piano. As for your grandioso/warmth combination, I will be sampling a rare Bechstein Grand that has a very unique grand tone, so keep your eyes open for more libraries.



Things that could use some updates are, better stereo spread, elimination of sample delay, velocity and timbre consistency note to note, and smoother sample velocity transitions. Regarding the stereo spread, I am comparing the sound to some other libraries that were recorded in stereo. Sorry, I am not being critical, just pointing some possible updates in the future. Overall I like this piano, just want to make it more playable and enjoyable.

I was wondering how to get a better stereo spread with this piano? It sounds more mono than most libraries, can I just run it through a mono to stereo reverb. I guess It still won't be true stereo and probably only simulated. Any comments.


Thanks for the comments also. This Beta was originally programmed by hand in the original exs editor, which is a nightmare compared to kontakt and others, so the sample velocity & timbre switching will be alot smoother in the new release, now that more samplers will be available to me. As well, the sample delays will be gone.

Unfortunately, for now, I have only the very mono mixed samples for the library, that is the way I programmed it. I figured, (and some will agree) that the stereo spread is only truly heard by the player(or someone standing next to him) and therefore will make the samples sound redundant and unreal to the listeners ear. If you and others still do wish for stereo samples, I will see what I can do with the original raw recording files. This feature may come in later versions, but if you really want it, I will be sure to put it in.


Hey Jeremy, how did you sample the velocities, did you use any mechanical devices to get the appropriate velocities or just used your fingers and guestimated the strike.


Used my good old fingers, I had to actually spend a night before training my fingers because it was a low action keyboard, very hard to achieve different velocities. I made very few mistakes in the recordings, so all the power flowed pretty well. I also have recordings of p, pp, & ppp that I have not released yet with the beta. (these velocities need alot more editing)

Thanks for the comments ddarwin,

God Bless,

Jeremy

[drjohnny79]

Jeremy: Some people may think a stereo version would come in handy, since you can control the stereo-width very easily in many sequencers, or with a freeware plug called "stereo pan":
http://home.netcom.com/~jhewes/StereoPan.html

That way you can decide for yourself how wide you want the sound. (And simulate the distance to the piano)

/Johnny

[Jake Johnson]

I would vote yes for recording in stereo. (The different mics pick up different sounds, so the result is not the same as wide panning two layers of the same sample.)

After playing the library in Kontakt, I had these subjective, fallable, momentary impressions:

1. The low register seemed a little bright. Possibly because there are no p or pp layers yet. On the other hand, on some notes, I don't hear much difference between the harmonic content of the lowest strikes and the harder strikes. Take C2, for example. The timbre seems very similar when playing any of the velocities, from the mp10 layer up to the fff10 layer. Is this just me? (But I often drag the bass p layers on a piano library up so they are triggered by higher velocity than the default settings. I guess I'm accustomed to playing pianos with more resistance in the low register keys, more beating of the strings, and a softer sound in general in the bass.)
2. Doubtless, other people will say the hammer sound is fine or too loud, but to get the sound I want from this close-miced piano, I sometimes wanted more hammer\wood, so I may try adding a separate hammer sample here and there. (Not a brassy hammer, but instead more of a soft thud) Haven't tried it yet, but I was surprised that the hammer doesn't come through more on these close miced samples. Intentional? Did you mic up the strings, as far away from the hammer as possible? I understand the reasoning--when you close-mic, the hammer can become too loud in relation to the notes, particularly on hard strikes. But if you move the mics closer in for low strikes, the shift in micing perspective becomes abrupt--the hard hits seem to jump back from the listener. So the better choice is usually to minimize the hammer transient. Regardless, to my ear, without trying many edits, some of the body of the piano gets lost here. Because the hammer sounds distant, the entire sample set sounds more distant. I don't want to suggest a cure, since this impression may be only mine, and since different pianos will require such different handling.
3. There are some distinct timbre changes in specific ranges. I don't know if the problem is with mapping, or if the mics were moved, or not moved, or whatever else may have caused the problem, but these notes just have a much thinner sound, producing a less musical note: The range from A2 to B2, the range from D#3 to B3. Anyone else hear this change in timbre? (Part of the problem, if there is a problem, may stem from an unusual mapping scheme. The usual procedure is to stretch notes down from their key note, so a C3, for example, will be stretched to cover the range from Bb to C3. Less obvious interpolation noise that way.)

Please take these comments as constructive and, clearly, subjective impressions. All the best luck with your recordings.

[Pingu]

Thanks very much Jeremy!!!!! You should definitely go for it; your work is great. I love the tonal colour of this piano.

The only suggestion I have for an improvement is something that others have noted, which is the delay on some notes. I'm actually getting quite an array of different delays. I'm programming in the piano roll editor of Cubasis, and if I draw in a widely-spaced chord, the notes all sound at different times.

If you do find a solution to this, please let me know. I've done some samples myself, of boomwhackers, which should have a fairly quick attack, but I haven't found the right way to trim them, so I'm also getting quite a range of perceived attacks.

I'd love to help out with the site if I can. I have a few ideas for sample libraries - I'll let you know if I get any of them off the ground.

[germancomponist]

Thanks very much Jeremy!!!!! You should definitely go for it; your work is great. I love the tonal colour of this piano.

The only suggestion I have for an improvement is something that others have noted, which is the delay on some notes. I'm actually getting quite an array of different delays. I'm programming in the piano roll editor of Cubasis, and if I draw in a widely-spaced chord, the notes all sound at different times.

If you do find a solution to this, please let me know. I've done some samples myself, of boomwhackers, which should have a fairly quick attack, but I haven't found the right way to trim them, so I'm also getting quite a range of perceived attacks.

I'd love to help out with the site if I can. I have a few ideas for sample libraries - I'll let you know if I get any of them off the ground.

In Kontakt Sampler 2 it is very easy to do: Edit page, Sample edit and there move the samplestart for any note to the right point and save as a new preset... . Thats all. ;)

[jeremy.saenz]

Alright! You guys have convinced me!
The official 1.0 Delicate Hollywood release will include:

-Extended sample times

-Stereo Spread;)

-No More Delays

-Added Lower velocities

-Smoother velocity switches

-Availability in Kontakt, exs24, VST, and Standalone

Thanks for all the requests. I have to admit that my effort was not extraordinary on the original beta because I wanted to see if people liked the tone that much and wanted me to continue the library.

The release 1.0 will be available in a week or less!

God Bless,

Jeremy

[electone2007]

In Kontakt Sampler 2 it is very easy to do: Edit page, Sample edit and there move the samplestart for any note to the right point and save as a new preset... . Thats all. ;)

That's exactly what I did, too!

Plus, I opened the mapping editor and panned the bass samples to the left, and the treble samples to the right, in increments of course, to create a player perspective patch.

It's very easy to do because there are only very few samples and zones.

[jeremy.saenz]

I would vote yes for recording in stereo. (The different mics pick up different sounds, so the result is not the same as wide panning two layers of the same sample.)

After playing the library in Kontakt, I had these subjective, fallable, momentary impressions:

1. The low register seemed a little bright. Possibly because there are no p or pp layers yet. On the other hand, on some notes, I don't hear much difference between the harmonic content of the lowest strikes and the harder strikes. Take C2, for example. The timbre seems very similar when playing any of the velocities, from the mp10 layer up to the fff10 layer. Is this just me? (But I often drag the bass p layers on a piano library up so they are triggered by higher velocity than the default settings. I guess I'm accustomed to playing pianos with more resistance in the low register keys, more beating of the strings, and a softer sound in general in the bass.)
2. Doubtless, other people will say the hammer sound is fine or too loud, but to get the sound I want from this close-miced piano, I sometimes wanted more hammer\wood, so I may try adding a separate hammer sample here and there. (Not a brassy hammer, but instead more of a soft thud) Haven't tried it yet, but I was surprised that the hammer doesn't come through more on these close miced samples. Intentional? Did you mic up the strings, as far away from the hammer as possible? I understand the reasoning--when you close-mic, the hammer can become too loud in relation to the notes, particularly on hard strikes. But if you move the mics closer in for low strikes, the shift in micing perspective becomes abrupt--the hard hits seem to jump back from the listener. So the better choice is usually to minimize the hammer transient. Regardless, to my ear, without trying many edits, some of the body of the piano gets lost here. Because the hammer sounds distant, the entire sample set sounds more distant. I don't want to suggest a cure, since this impression may be only mine, and since different pianos will require such different handling.
3. There are some distinct timbre changes in specific ranges. I don't know if the problem is with mapping, or if the mics were moved, or not moved, or whatever else may have caused the problem, but these notes just have a much thinner sound, producing a less musical note: The range from A2 to B2, the range from D#3 to B3. Anyone else hear this change in timbre? (Part of the problem, if there is a problem, may stem from an unusual mapping scheme. The usual procedure is to stretch notes down from their key note, so a C3, for example, will be stretched to cover the range from Bb to C3. Less obvious interpolation noise that way.)

Please take these comments as constructive and, clearly, subjective impressions. All the best luck with your recordings.


Here is a small explanation to the very similar sounding low keys


I had to actually spend a night before training my fingers because it was a low action keyboard, very hard to achieve different velocities. I made very few mistakes in the recordings, so all the power flowed pretty well.


All the keys, esp. the low ones, of this specific piano are very low action and contain almost no hammer sounds for the actual piano. This is one way why it makes it unique. It is (in real life) a very tight, but very beautiful piano.

Yes, the timbre differences were because of going up the keys for stretching. I will switch them all down for the next version.

Thanks for the feedback Jake,

Jeremy

[ddarwin7]

Alright! You guys have convinced me!
The release 1.0 will be available in a week or less!


Hi Jeremy:

Man, your talking notes like your getting paid for this. Even better than some paid developers. Thanks.

Here are some example links of what I think a beautiful solo piano should sound like. I hope someday we will have pianos that sound like this. Currently, with all the sample libraries I have, I can never get it to sound this good. Don't know how they get that beautiful stereo spread. To my ears, these pianos sound so warm, rich and musical. The samples somehow just don't sound as musical.

Try the 3 free piano solos in this link
http://music.download.com/garygirouard/3600-8503_32-100123599.html?tag=MDL_listing_song_artist

Here is another link. Beautiful woody sound with bell like quality. Try some of these free songs, 'A Mothers Heart', 'The Ashgrove' and some of the others.
http://music.download.com/cynthiajordan/3600-8498_32-100264741.html?tag=MDL_listing_song_artist

I also like the upfront and centered piano sound of Jim brickman solo piano works.

These sounds may be great to do some A/B comparison's to. I know you said that in the future you may be sampling more pianos, so here is more work for you.

Thanks again
Dd

[electone2007]

Alright! You guys have convinced me!

The official 1.0 Delicate Hollywood release will include:
-Extended sample times

-Stereo Spread;)

-No More Delays

-Added Lower velocities

-Smoother velocity switches

-Availability in Kontakt, exs24, VST, and Standalone


Thanks for all the requests. I have to admit that my effort was not extraordinary on the original beta because I wanted to see if people liked the tone that much and wanted me to continue the library.

The release 1.0 will be available in a week or less!

God Bless,

Jeremy

I'll just wait...:)