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route909

07-15-2003, 02:07 PM

Originally posted by Pochacco:
Hello all,

I noticed that Vintaudio didn\'t have any classical demos for their Yamaha C7 library on their website. So for those wondering how this library performs with classical piano music, I decided to do a few demos:

<ul type=\"square\"> (Ambient) Debussy\'s Clair de lune (\"http://www.vintaudio.com/Ambient-Clairdelune.mp3\") (Close Miked) Debussy\'s Arabesque No 1 (\"http://www.vintaudio.com/ClsMiked-Arabesque.mp3\") (Player Perspective) Beethoven\'s Moonlight Sonata (\"http://www.vintaudio.com/PP-Moonlight.mp3\")[/list]
These demos were done with the 16-bit Giga version, no reverb added. I amplified the volume a little in Cool Edit Pro, then encoded to mp3.

Having performed in public many times on Yamaha grand pianos, I must say that I\'m very satisfied with this library. Vintaudio did an excellent job capturing this Yamaha C7, and it sounds just as good as I expected. The Ambient library is very appropriate for classical piano, but I also love the more intimate sound of the player perspective library for classical piano. What do you think?

Cheers,
Anousone Nice sound, but what´s with the high frequency noise in the songs? For example, in Claire de lune, a high pitched sound is very obvious at 0:34.

Mats

Franky

07-15-2003, 03:08 PM

Hi Mats, I think what yo\'re hearing (and it\'s very faint, had to turn it really loud to hear it )is the MP3 compression or Anousone\'s audio system that has some sort of high pitch whine.
I just reread Anousone\'s post and the answerI think is right there \"I amplified the volume in Cool Edit Pro\", that\'s probably the culprit.

If you listen to the other demos on the website, there is no such noise in the other mp3s.
Again it is very faint to me and is probably due to either the mp3 compression scheme used or some sort of artifact from Anousone\'s audio system.
Also make sure your audio card is set to 44.1 khz and you\'re listening to the demos not with
\"real player\" but with windows media player or something better.
Franky.

Olivierbergman

07-15-2003, 03:38 PM

Hi,

I like your Yamaha C7 and such classical demo.

You know, it\'s very difficult for me to explain in English my feelings about a Piano.

Sorry for that

So in French :

\" Un des meilleurs Piano samplé du moment, avec beaucoup de nuances et de réalismes. Les 3 perspectives de son en font un des Pianos les plus réalistes. C\'est un véritable Yamaha C7. Il n\'y a plus qu\'à espérer que Frank, l\'auteur nous programme un beau Steinway D avec les mêmes techniques de prise de son \"

En un mot : Bravo

Regards,

Olivier

07-15-2003, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by Olivierbergman:

En un mot : Bravo

Regards,

Olivier [/QB]I dont know french, but I understand that!! hehe

Ed

Franky

07-15-2003, 04:38 PM

Thanks Olivier images/icons/smile.gif

Here\'s the translation

From Olivier Bergman Quote :\" One of the best sampled pianos available currently, with alot of nuance and realism. The 3 available perspectives make it one of the most realistic sampled piano, it\'s a real Yamaha C7. All is left is to hope Franky the author of the library programs us a beautiful Steinway using the same miking techniques, in one word Bravo.\" End quote.

Franky.

route909

07-15-2003, 04:57 PM

Originally posted by Franky:
Hi Mats, I think what yo\'re hearing (and it\'s very faint, had to turn it really loud to hear it )is the MP3 compression or Anousone\'s audio system that has some sort of high pitch whine.
I just reread Anousone\'s post and the answerI think is right there \"I amplified the volume in Cool Edit Pro\", that\'s probably the culprit.

If you listen to the other demos on the website, there is no such noise in the other mp3s.
Again it is very faint to me and is probably due to either the mp3 compression scheme used or some sort of artifact from Anousone\'s audio system.
Also make sure your audio card is set to 44.1 khz and you\'re listening to the demos not with
\"real player\" but with windows media player or something better.
Franky. Ok, that´s bs. Mp3 does not create artifacts of that kind and I believe Anousone\'s audio system is just fine. I´ve heard that same error in some of the other C7 demos as well. Some samples seem to have a high pitched noise in them. Cool Edit 2000 or Pro does NOT make any kind of errors like that, not even when avoiding dithering after amplifying the original file.

On a side note, I use Winamp with MAD plugin v. 0.14.2b to output audio to dithered 32 bit audio directly through waveout for my mp3 listening and usually Soundforge to listen to .wav files. Everything goes out through my Wami Rack 24 at 44.1 KHz (fixed at 44.1, unless I record at another sample rate), without no digital attenuation before the audio hits the mixer at +4dBu level. I listen through pretty darn good studio monitors and Grado headphones, and my cables are of good quality... which basically means that what is in comes out and nothing more, nothing less. I believe the whine is in the instrument itself, since not all notes in the demo files are affected. And it´s damn annoying.

Mats

Franky

07-15-2003, 05:24 PM

I was just trying to be helpful, no need to get agressive......

The library\'s sold over 200 copies already, and this includes high profile producers composers and well respected sample library producers that frequent this forum namely Nick Phoenix and Michiel Post, also the library\'s been thuroughly tested by Tascam developers and is distributed by Tascam( These Professional sample developers are highly skilled and talented and beleive me if there was a \"high pitched whine\" in the samples they would\'ve told me a long time ago....), and no one has ever mentionned anything about a \"high pitched whine\", so please do not pull conclusions from MP3 demos and make these kinds of statements about a sample library when you have no way of corroborating such dammaging remarks especially based on MP3 demos, to make such remarks simply based on MP3 demos is totally irresponsible......
I can guarantee there is no \"high Pitched Whine\" in the samples, other who have bought the library can and will probably attest to this.

Franky
Vintaudio

route909

07-15-2003, 06:23 PM

Originally posted by Franky:
Wow... who pissed in your cornflakes this morning...... ?
I was just trying to be helpful there bud, no need to get agressive......

The library\'s sold over 200 copies already and NO ONE has EVER mentionned anything about a \"high pitched whine\", so please do not pull conclusions from MP3 demos and make inflammatory statements about a sample library when you have no way of corroborating such dammaging remarks especially based on MP3 demos......
I can guarantee there is no \"high Pitched Whine\" in the samples, other who have bought the library can and will probably attest to this...
Thank you for the helpful and positive attitude posts, one can really fell you have something useful or otherwise positive to add to this thread.... images/icons/rolleyes.gif

Franky
Vintaudio Franky, please lay off the sarcasm. The Kellogg´s K-specials were just great this morning.

I´m damn tired of being written off as a punk nobody with no experience/gear/talent, that´s why I did go into detail about my monitoring, which I actually like pretty much. It´s good enough for me and most anyone. It shows the audio in all it´s nakedness. And I´ve sampled LOTS of instrument for several years, ranging from 1 mb to 100 mb to 1 gig. I din´t want to go into details about the hi pitch squeeks with the first message. I´d heard them when first listening to your early demos, and now I just fished for others´ experiences to see if they too had noticed.

I love your piano. It´s just fabulous. It´s sound is remarkably neat and quite balanced, though the recording is a bit on the dark side for a yam piano in _my_ opinion. But it´s probably due to the room it was recorded in and can be helped with eq and/or verb. I respect the work that went into it, and as I´ve made pianos of pretty large sizes before, my hat´s off to your dedication in this massive project. It´s just great. Probably the only gigapiano I´d buy if I didn´t sample my own instruments every now and then.

But the frequency is there, even in your other demos from your site. It´s very subtle, not really noticeable 99% of the time. Always the same frequency: 15575 Hz. Easily kill-able with an eq. Check it out with a spectrum analyzer for yourself. Did you have a TV set on while recording? I have encountered this once or twice when recording with the TV just muted, not turned off.

It can be heard (seen) in:
Player Perspective demo
Ambient miked demo
Close (barely measurable)

I don´t want to kill the interest for this library, actually I like it very much, if you´re bothered with this frequency (you shouldn´t really be, most people can´t hear it anyway), it takes NOTHING to just eq it away and is a very minor beauty spot, mostly in the ambient set, and not easily heard at all. I just wondered where it came from.

Mats

Franky

07-15-2003, 06:36 PM

Mats, no we did not have a T.V. set opened during the recording session... By god, this was a serious professional large studio and we worked for over 3 days to get the whole building\'s ventilation and every possible sound leak shut down to get the purest sound possible (this is a very large studio complex) and the room we recorded the piano in is acoustically tuned for piano recordings.

Now like I said, alot of professional sample developers actually bought the library and none of them has ever mentionned anything about a high pitched whine.

Many Developers from Tascam have tested and actually use the library and none of them has ever mentionned anything about a high pitched whine.

I have never heard a high pitched whine in the library and I have worked with the library for almost a year now, I also do professional masterings and I do not hear the high pitched whining you seem to hear.

So to say that this high pitched whine is in the library solely based on your assessment of a few MP3 demos is not very serious and is only your opinion and could come from a dozen different sources, computer gear interfeering with sound card during the creation of the demos or in the listening system itself, or what is most likely the cause MP3 compression codec or creation which can exaggerate and distort certain frequencies and make them stand out or finally could be non existent at all and part of the natural character of the piano itself and if so shouldn\'t annoy anybody especially if you say 99 % of people can\'t hear it anyway, so why bother and make a issue out of it....

Kindly,
Franky
Vintaudio

ed hamilton

07-15-2003, 06:45 PM

I own it.
I use it.
I love it.

These are the quietest piano samples on the market.
NO NOISE WHATSOEVER!!

There are some other piano sets that have a noticable noise floor problem.
This is not one of them.

Buy it.
It was the best $$ I spent this year.

Lougheed

07-15-2003, 06:53 PM

\"Mp3 does not create artifacts of that kind\"

That\'s simply not true. MP3 compression DOES change the sound, and some encoders more so than others. Can you hear the offending sound on the actual samples, not an MP3 rendering? You have checked the actual samples, right?

Something else. I believe that not all MP3 players are created equal, and that you will get different results from the same MP3 file, from different players.

Lawrence

Franky

07-15-2003, 06:55 PM

Especially in the high frequencies....

Franky
Vintaudio

Lougheed

07-15-2003, 06:59 PM

Originally posted by Franky:
Especially in the high frequencies....
Yes, I totally agree with this. The higher frequencies, and more sustained type sounds are more negatively damaged.

Pochacco

07-15-2003, 11:41 PM

Hello all,

I noticed that Vintaudio didn\'t have any classical demos for their Yamaha C7 library on their website. So for those wondering how this library performs with classical piano music, I decided to do a few demos:

<ul type=\"square\"> (Ambient) Debussy\'s Clair de lune (\"http://www.vintaudio.com/Ambient-Clairdelune.mp3\") (Close Miked) Debussy\'s Arabesque No 1 (\"http://www.vintaudio.com/ClsMiked-Arabesque.mp3\") (Player Perspective) Beethoven\'s Moonlight Sonata (\"http://www.vintaudio.com/PP-Moonlight.mp3\")[/list]
These demos were done with the 16-bit Giga version, no reverb added. I amplified the volume a little in Cool Edit Pro, then encoded to mp3.

Having performed in public many times on Yamaha grand pianos, I must say that I\'m very satisfied with this library. Vintaudio did an excellent job capturing this Yamaha C7, and it sounds just as good as I expected. The Ambient library is very appropriate for classical piano, but I also love the more intimate sound of the player perspective library for classical piano. What do you think?

Cheers,
Anousone

route909

07-16-2003, 03:18 AM

Originally posted by Lougheed:
\"Mp3 does not create artifacts of that kind\"

That\'s simply not true. MP3 compression DOES change the sound, and some encoders more so than others. Can you hear the offending sound on the actual samples, not an MP3 rendering? You have checked the actual samples, right?

Something else. I believe that not all MP3 players are created equal, and that you will get different results from the same MP3 file, from different players.

Lawrence Re-read my message. MP3 does change the sound, sometimes with nasty phasey bi effects -especially with cymbals - and sometimes with more subtle losses in the weaker parts, but no mp3 encoder I´ve ever encountered has created a 15.5 khz sine wave of varying amplitude. Especially not at an encoding rate of 256 kbps. 256 kbps with a good encoder is usually quite inseparable from a wav file. Why not post a .wav file to prove me wrong? I´d be glad to learn something new about mp3 encoders.

I have not bought this library, so I can not check indivual samples, but some parts of \"Claire de lune\" are more affected than others. And it´s mostly the piano or pianissimo samples in the ambient micing that sound odd when several notes are playing (00:34 is one example). The other sample layers have the same sine, but weaker in level, which corresponds decently to my theory about another sound source.

And Franky, I don´t want to go into a d(p)issing game. Check the mp3 files and the original .wav files for differences, I don´t have access to them. Check them with a spectrum analyzer too. If you´re right, great.

Mats

Franky

07-16-2003, 07:22 AM

The files have been checked and there is no high pitched whine thank you, lets move on and get this topic back on track again. images/icons/smile.gif

Thank you,

Franky
Vintaudio

kid alex

07-16-2003, 11:13 PM

what bit rate were these Mp3\'s burned at?

Sounds Great!

Franky

07-17-2003, 05:58 AM

I beleive the files are encoded in 256 kbps.
Glad you like the demos Kid, Anousone can really play those keys. images/icons/smile.gif

Franky.

TNM

07-17-2003, 02:51 PM

I must say I find this tread has gone to places which are most useless. I planned in the future to purchase the vint-audio C7 as it seems to be the most versitle piano for Giga I have heard in demos and I like the C7 (unfortunatly I have a C3). I don\'t think anyone is getting any benefit from the little spats that have happened and I find it unprofesional for developers to act in such a manner - the big names like Garritan never seem to bother insulting anyone who has something negative to say about his product THEY just move on. As artists and creators if we are any good we posses emotions and tempers but, as proffesionals and biz people you can\'t afford to be seem lashing out. Think about it.
Tom Martin - who appologizes for any spelling errors.
My MP3.com Page (\"http://www.mp3.com/T__Nathaniel_Martin\")

Franky

07-17-2003, 03:50 PM

Hi Tnm, the big name developers like you say will always respond when someone will state misleading and totally false statements about the quality of their sample library especially when it\'s based on nothing but suppositions and especially when it\'s totally untrue.

There\'s is also the fact that some people like you may seem to think \"I lashed out\", while others like myself will understand I only strongly defended the integrity of my product, it\'s always a matter of perception and opinion, you can\'t tell the state of mind of a individual just by reading a few words in a forum and interpreting them, again this can go both ways depending on alot of factors obviously.
What for you might be perceived as lashing out might be strongly defending one\'s opinion for someone else.

I take pride in my work and my libraries, tousands of hours as gone into this library and anyone is welcome to critisize my libraries based on normal criteria ex: on if they like it or not, is it too dark or too bright bla bla bla, but if someone comes in and says there\'s for example a \"high pitched whine\" in all the samples, and base this on a few MP3 demos and state this as a matter of fact and as the gospel truth, I will strongly defend my work and will not let someone portray it in a totally false way, I thing that everyone that has had contact with me or discussed different topics with me for the last few years on this forum understand this and they stand by me.

Also, I did ask this person to contact me personally if he wanted to pursue this conversation privatly to try and get this topic back on track, a post like yours with all due respect, does not help to get it back on track.

I hope this makes you understand a bit more why I responded in this thread the way I did, if you still beleive the \"big name\" *grins* developers would never respond the way I did, I say I\'m not so sure, just make a search in this forum and you\'ll find many threads where developers jumped in to defend their products being brought down by false and misleading information, and they did so as strongly or more than I did, I have read many such threads in the years I\'ve been on this forum.

If you which to discuss this with me, please do not hesitate to private message me, I\'ll gladly discuss this with you, and let\'s please get this topic back on track. images/icons/smile.gif

Kindly,
Franky
Vintaudio Prod.

route909

07-18-2003, 06:28 AM

Originally posted by Franky:
Hi Tnm, I totally get what you\'re saying but, the big name developers like you say will always respond when someone will state misleading and totally false statements about the quality of their sample library especially when it\'s based on nothing but suppositions and especially when it\'s totally untrue.

There\'s is also the fact that some people like you may seem to think \"I lashed out\", while others like myself will understand I only strongly defended the integrity of my product, it\'s always a matter of perception and opinion, you can\'t tell the state of mind of a individual just by reading a few words in a forum and interpreting them, again this can go both ways depending on alot of factors obviously.
What for you might be perceived as lashing out might be strongly defending one\'s opinion for someone else.

I take pride in my work and my libraries, tousands of hours as gone into this library and anyone is welcome to critisize my libraries based on normal criteria ex: on if they like it or not, is it too dark or too bright bla bla bla, but if someone comes in and says there\'s for example a \"high pitched whine\" in all the samples, and base this on a few MP3 demos and state this as a matter of fact and as the gospel truth, I will strongly defend my work and will not let someone portray it in a totally false way, I thing that everyone that has had contact with me or discussed different topics with me for the last few years on this forum understand this and they stand by me.

Also, I did ask this person to contact me personally if he wanted to pursue this conversation privatly to try and get this topic back on track, a post like yours with all due respect, does not help to get it back on track.

I hope this makes you understand a bit more why I responded in this thread the way I did, if you still beleive the \"big name\" *grins* developers would never respond the way I did, I say I\'m not so sure, just make a search in this forum and you\'ll find many threads where developers jumped in to defend their products being brought down by false and misleading information, and they did so as strongly or more than I did, I have read many such threads in the years I\'ve been on this forum.

If you which to discuss this with me, please do not hesitate to private message me, I\'ll gladly discuss this with you, and let\'s please get this topic back on track. images/icons/smile.gif

Kindly,
Franky
Vintaudio Prod. I gave up this thread as it didn´t come out any productive at all, just a bunch of badmouthing from both parties. And I didn´t state that all the samples were bad in any way. I wholeheartedly would recommend this library to anyone looking for a great piano library with a lot of flexibility for relatively little money. Sure I based my statements on the mp3 demos and I did not get to hear any .wav files, but that´s cool. I don´t think it´s really all that important.

Franky, I respect you for making this library and defending it, but please try and act in a civil way and the next time, try and prove me wrong instead of trying to make me look like a pile of manure. The reason I continued to write in the forum instead of off the record, was that someone else might have some thoughts to share. English is not my first language, I sometimes find it difficult to use the most proper word for everything, so it does come out wrong from time to time. This just might be one of those times. I´m not trying to make an enemy out of anyone.
Peace.

Mats

Franky

07-18-2003, 06:56 AM

Hi Route909,
Please reread all my posts on this topic, they are all civil in tone and content, to say I wasn\'t is your perception and opinion only and well I\'m truely sorry if you feel I wasn\'t civil to you, that was not the intention, the intention was to make it clear that one cannot make final analysys of another\'s sample library samples solely based on listening to a few MP3s.

First let me tell you I\'m not English speaking either, so sometimes someone might think I\'m angry when I\'m not, so my words also may not come out the way I want them to.

But the fact is, you listened to a few MP3 demos and made erronious statements about the quality of the samples in my library solely based on those MP3 demos and stated this as fact and that\'s very important. If you would\'ve said \"I\'think..\" but you said something like \"bs the whine is in the samples...\" sorry but I can\'t just let that pass and let people think it\'s true, especially written in that tone.

Quote : \" Try and prove me wrong instead of making me look like a pile of manure\"

You have been proven wrong, there is no such \"whine\" in the samples and that\'s why it was and is time to let go and move on, I never said you were manure, I never called you names, I simply stated things as they really are, if you perceive this as making you look like \"manure\" that\'s your perception, mine is that you came into this thread with a question (and I still want to beleive you genuinely wanted to be helpful even though you distribute a free Yamaha Grand from your website), to which I tried to answer politely to which you replied

Quote : \"bs the high pitched whine is in the samples, and it\'s god damn annoying\"...

Now who\'s not being civil here ?
If this was your work, wouldn\'t you defend it from a damaging statement like the one you made? come on....

If you\'d really wanted to be helpful, when I asked you about 20 posts ago to please let this thread get back on track, you would\'ve contacted me privately like I asked you to and we could\'ve discussed this privately without derailing this thread, but you decided to persist, and again here you are bringing it up again instead of discussing this with me.

If you want to discuss this with me further why don\'t you contact me personally and let\'s all move on please.

Kindly,
Franky
Vintaudio

KingIdiot

07-18-2003, 07:27 AM

disregard

Franky

07-18-2003, 07:35 AM

Hi King, how you been ? images/icons/smile.gif

Yes, I did test the samples like you said King, and obviously there\'s no high pitched ring there.
Also what you\'re talking about doesn\'t seem to be the same thing he seems to be hearing since you\'re hearing the natural \"twang\" overtones of the piano that obviously becomes more apparent as velocity goes up mezzo forte, forte.

But if you reread his post, he said he was hearing this high pitched whine mostly in the piano and pianissimo notes played, which is inconsistent with the natural overtone of the piano at higher velocities.

I still contend that MP3 codecs or compressions might accentuate or distort certain frequencies more than others especially high frequencies, because playing the piano right here I don\'t hear the ringing at all except for the natural overtones of the piano which are quite tamer than some other Yamaha C7\'s. We tried about 10 to 15 different C7\'s before choosing this one, we chose it because it had the less weird overtones of the bunch and sounded the best, you wouldn\'t beleive some of the stuff we were hearing in the high frequencies on some other C7\'s. images/icons/smile.gif

Glad you like the piano King,
looking forward to hear your impression about the library first hand. images/icons/smile.gif

*Wishes somehow the thread would get back on topic.* images/icons/wink.gif

Kindly,
Franky
VIntaudio

TNM

07-18-2003, 08:36 PM

Well Franky,
I do believe you could benefit from some public relations lessons. Personaly I don\'t care about things being on topic or not - in natural conversation topics will naturally flow from one to the next.
I seriously had every intention of purchasing your C7 before the year was out. For some reason instead of leaving it at what I said - you in reality continued this tread on this tiresome topic which is something you apprently are unhappy about. You may recall people claiming they wouldn\'t buy something from someone holding certain political views. I\'m not talking about political views I am talking about being polite and curtious. It seems to go this way. Competitors can act like asses, customers can act like asses but, in this case devlopers/merchandizers must act always with a smile.

Tom who never recaled Michel Post telling anyone off on here and who seems incredibly modest... . Think about it.

Franky

07-18-2003, 09:49 PM

*Puts a smile on* images/icons/wink.gif

I\'ve written all I have to say about this matter and have nothing to add except that I stand behind every word I\'ve written in this thread and wouldn\'t change a single word. People that know me for being present in this forum for the last few years know what I\'m about and who I am. I say it like I see it, I have no snake crawling skills nor do I want any.

If you want to judge my character from your perception and I emphasize your perception of what being polite and curteous is, or my \"public relation skills\" from a few words lifted from a forum thread, that\'s your right, feel free to do so. I know who I am and what I stand for, and so do the hundreds if not thousands of users I\'ve interacted with in this forum in the past three years and the hundreds of costumers who\'ve had nothing but praise about the superior level of costumer care and service they\'ve received from our company. I\'ve received dozens of emails from users in this forum supporting me from what I\'ve written in this thread and they have done so privately to respect my wish to try and get this topic back on track which will now probably never happen, I will however never let someone lay false and misleading claims about my work or make derrogatory remarks about my integrity as a sample developer without saying anything, and I\'ve never seen a developer in this forum let someone state false claims about their library. I have however seen many instances where developers have vigorously defended the integrity of their product, and I would do it again in a heartbeat.

Kindly,
Franky
Vintaudio

ed hamilton

07-19-2003, 11:25 PM

I am not sure this post is really needed at this point ..... but

My day gig is as a mastering engineer.
The Monitors that I live in front of are:
Adam S3a\'s
Genelec S30s
Genelec 1031s
My headphones are Grados and Senn HD600s.

Everything I listen to and work on is in front of these monitors.

There is NO noise problem in frankies piano lib. No 15k spike.
Its a really well recorded and sampled piano.

I don\'t know Franky. Never met him.
Just bought his disc and loved it. and I am intensly picky about everything.

Does Franky have an edge?

I live in NYC. Who the hell doesn\'t! So I can\'t really tell. Plus there is always something lost when you write or speak in a second language as Franky does.

The piano is clean. Anyone who wants to hear it on revealing monitors can contact me.

Oh yeah, as far as customer service goes.
For some reason the first set of discs Franky sent me would not read on my PC\'s.

He quickly sent me out the DVD version AT NO CHARGE.

To quote Mr. Gump... well thats all I have to say about that.

Franky

07-20-2003, 07:25 AM

Ed, thank you for the kind words.
I\'m so glad to hear this from a experienced Mastering Engineer like yourself. I also do some mastering work for a living although not as my main gig but more of a third or fourth gig, obviously people might think I\'m biased since I created the library, but the fact is, there is no 15k spike at all and to hear it from a professional mastering engineer like yourself pretty much settles it once and for all. images/icons/smile.gif

Glad you\'re enjoying the library.

Kindly,
Franky
Vintaudio

KingIdiot

07-20-2003, 08:36 AM

disregard

Franky

07-20-2003, 09:01 AM

KingIdiot

07-20-2003, 09:14 AM

disregard

Franky

07-20-2003, 09:23 AM

tonylombardi

07-20-2003, 02:16 PM

Did the mp3 conversion effect the dynamic range a lot? I didn\'t hear the dynamic range that I thought should be there. The Moonlight Sonata demo wasn\'t as quiet as it should be.

Anthony Lombardi
www.mp3.com/alombardi (\"http://www.mp3.com/alombardi\")

Franky

07-20-2003, 02:24 PM

Hi Tony, first off let me say I\'m really glad Anousone took the time to make these very nice demos, finally some classical MP3s ! images/icons/smile.gif

In my opinion it did affect the dynamic range and these MP3\'s don\'t seem to be as quiet as the ones I\'ve done and I\'m not too sure what codec she used to encode but it doesn\'t sound as transparent as the other ones I\'ve done for the library. Of course most of the demos I\'ve made were done with the 24 bit versions of the library (Halion2 Kontakt), don\'t know how much that might affect it but maybe a bit.

Kindly
Franky
Vintaudio