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Francis Belardino
07-10-2003, 03:10 PM
September 5th. Wish me luck images/icons/smile.gif


MAJOR UPDATE!!

Update 4:

Vowels Pianissimo - Mezzo Forte
Soloist 1 sings Middle C up to A5.
Soloist 2 sings A below middle C up to E5

Ah. Oh. Oo. Ee. Closed lip Mm.

All vowels BOTH soloists!

Now the user can truly access any sustained vowel via two soloists. Included are: Close Mic\'ed, Far Mic\'ed, Release Samples, Crescendo/Diminuendo, and legato patches.

Whew!

FB


Update 3:
The posted \"teaser\" mp3 cuts off before the movement trurly ends. I will fix this tonight and re upload. The \"new\" mp3 will have \"hi cycle noise\" removed as well. You can A/B the fix.

Update 2:
The matter of a high cycle ring noise has been isolated from soloist one. This is what Simon and KC had heard. This was not the fault of an mp3 or mastering. It has been removed and the natural highs remain.

Update 1:
Diva will embrace close and far mic\'ed samples.

News 2:
More great news to make up for all the hype
DIVA EXTENDED

Straight tone, sustained vowels from Soloist 1 and 2 ... ah, oo, oh, ee, mm.
10 additional Performance files from Soloists 1
< A minor >
10 additional Performance files from Soloists 2
< C minor >
Diva Effects:
< Breathing, whispering, moaning, grunting, laughter, cries >

Diva Extended
$49.99… registered user of Diva.
$99.99… non-registered users of Diva

News 1:
Diva is now in the post-production/editing stages.
I have created a simple .html page where you can read the beta release notes and
audition a small “teaser” mp3 example.
I sincerely thank you for your interest and any feedback you may wish to share.

http://www.beladmedia.com/diva.html (\"http://www.beladmedia.com/diva.html\")

Francis Belardino
www.beladmedia.com (\"http://www.beladmedia.com\")

When you see the Diva banner add at NorthenSounds … your soloists have arrived!

Bill
07-10-2003, 03:27 PM
As Christopher Walken says in his SNL skit, The Continental: “Wow”

Xenakis
07-10-2003, 03:36 PM
Glad to hear that the libary will be avaible soon. I heard the short mp3 and the sound is very nice. I look forward to being able to compose some art songs.

scores4film
07-10-2003, 03:43 PM
Francis,

Are these sampled phrases or legato intervals ala VSL- or something else?

Thanks,

Colin

JudasCloud
07-10-2003, 07:17 PM
This is probably the stupidest question you\'ve ever gotten about this library... but is that lady on the cd on your \"Release Notes\" page one of the singers that was sampled?

I\'m just wondering if you said, \"As long as we\'re sampling you... do you mind posing for the CD art?\"

(this is not meant to be funny, its a legitimate question. I often wonder this about sampling products that I see)

Sounds good btw... if the price stays at $150 I\'ll probably buy it when its released

Francis Belardino
07-10-2003, 07:34 PM
Actually the artwork is a paid for photo design. I believe my designer used a select photo from G-Images. That’s what it says on my bill images/icons/smile.gif

Note:
The posted mp3 was created using Diva\'s performance files.

MrArkadine
07-10-2003, 07:35 PM
Wow, really nice Francis.

Congratulations, I\'m sure you will have a lot of success with this, it sounds great!
BTW, remember that talk we had about the banners images/icons/wink.gif

Take Care,

Ruben

tob
07-10-2003, 11:07 PM
Sounds awesome.. really looking forward to it. images/icons/smile.gif

/Tobias

Nick Phoenix
07-10-2003, 11:39 PM
Wow. Really nice sound and expressive!

Alexcremers
07-10-2003, 11:57 PM
Originally posted by Francis Belardino:

Note:
The posted mp3 was created using Diva\'s performance files. <font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">Performance files meaning phrases, right?
Anyway, it\'s a beautiful sound.

------------
Alex Cremers

MikeGraybill
07-11-2003, 01:45 AM
Nice Work Francis! I\'m looking forward this images/icons/smile.gif

Simon Ravn
07-11-2003, 03:29 AM
Francis, I wonder how this would sound without the close mic. I think it sounds way too metallic, breathy and lifeless now. Can you post an example without the close mic??? I am sure it sounds much better:)

Leon Willett
07-11-2003, 03:46 AM
I LOVE that breathiness. Don\'t hear any metallic sound at all. Lovely sound to my ears. Similar to the female vocal on Horner\'s \"A beautiful mind\"

Paulh
07-11-2003, 04:20 AM
Nope, not metallic at all. This sounds great to me, and with a little reverb it would sound even better. I\'m looking forward to hearing more of it.

Xenakis
07-11-2003, 04:38 AM
I would really like to hear something using the multi-samples as performance files are no good for me as I want the samples to make mucic that I write. Hope that there are some mp3\'s posted soon that use only multisamples so that we can tell what we might be able to do with this libary.

Francis Belardino
07-11-2003, 06:52 AM
** Xenakis,

The multi samples are still on my hard drive as
huge wav files images/icons/smile.gif I have a beta mp3 of Soloists
one, ah. Rick and I are editing for a more legato feel. I hear you loud and clear and will strive to post an example ASAP.
Thank you for your input images/icons/smile.gif


Thank you for all the kind words.

Nick,

A BIG thanks to you! If DIVA is a fraction of the level VOTA is, I will feel I have done well.

Simon,

I hear what you hear. The ambience is there. Diva was recorded in MS stereo and as you know... the more SIDE the more ambience. I did not want to go
too wet. Others would complain that Diva would not fit in THEIR mix.

I believe what you are hearing is WAVES C4 plug~in ... I used this to SPARKLE the highs.

With my studio monitors and gear set to a flat response. It sounds about right. If I EQ some high end SHE sounds brassy.

PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS IS ONLY A TEASER!

Thank you for your ear.

Francis Belardino
07-11-2003, 07:11 AM
A word about Diva’s performance files.

Do not over look or look down at their usefulness!

The performance files are carefully composed in popular scoring keys and all will link seamlessly from one to the other. There are about 60 files.
All with “human” elements and “true” legato.

Use them as building blocks. Play them in Giga. Rip them to you audio editor and get creative.

When you purchase Diva you own the rights to the melodies. You may use them any where. Any time.

Sheet music is provided with your CD (or CD\'s) images/icons/smile.gif

This section of Diva is truly exciting!

Phantom Voice, will feature 13th century performance files. Taken from some really dusty sheet music images/icons/smile.gif

midphase
07-11-2003, 10:11 AM
Francis, I wonder how this would sound without the close mic. I think it sounds way too metallic, breathy and lifeless now. Can you post an example without the close mic??? I am sure it sounds much better:)
<font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">Well, gee Simon, why don\'t you tell us how you really feel?

Are you sure your real name is not Simon Cowell? images/icons/grin.gif

Simon Ravn
07-11-2003, 10:15 AM
Midphase: I am dead serious. I want to hear it without the close mic!

Francis Belardino
07-11-2003, 10:52 AM
OK Simon C images/icons/smile.gif

I really have to get back to work.

Here is an mp3 with \"more\" of the \"width\" from the \"far\" mics.

Please remember. Diva is MS stereo. Left Channel close mic. Right channel far mic (S).

Then the MS decoder (ring images/icons/smile.gif ) allows me to blend far and close.

Hope you find this helpful.

PS. I am sure glad Simon is the only one so far that thinks the sample sounds, \"Lifeless\"!!!


Hope this gives you a new perspective, Simon.

FB

*mp3 removed from server*

KingIdiot
07-11-2003, 12:32 PM
like the far sound.

I was clsoe to the same boat as Simon about the first demo, there was something \"sharp\" to it. It also felt a little unpredictable regarding some frequencies. Tho, I believed I could still get some good use out of it with some compression an reverb (doesnt\' everyone use this on voice anyway? In fact I\'d RATHER have to do this instead of super preprocessed voice)). Tho I didn\'t want to post that. As a first impression.

This farther mic sound, yummy.

Not to say that I only want a far mic sound. I actually do want close mics for tighter arrangments, but I think this far sound would work extremely well. Much smoother, and perfect for drenching even more.

then again, it could be that I\'m just hearing the voice more, as its not hidden behind all the other super-resonatinator synth and fx stuff.

Francis Belardino
07-11-2003, 01:23 PM
King,

Very cool reply. I was waiting to hear your thoughts, man. Thank you images/icons/smile.gif

Let me ask... Do you think I should just go with the \"far\" sound?

I would love to give both but I think Diva would be a 4 CD set if I did.


PS. Yes, I agree about the compression and the rest. In fact, I used very little since I thought everyone has his or her own taste.

In addition, I think it needs to be said that, like with many, sample CD\'s... noting is to everyone’s liking right out of the shrink-wrap.

I can only imagine what \"madness\" Diva would take on if YOU got a hold of it images/icons/smile.gif

BACK TO WORK!!

Simon Ravn
07-11-2003, 01:50 PM
Francis, can I be irritating and ask you for a dry only sample?? images/icons/smile.gif )

Francis Belardino
07-11-2003, 02:06 PM
Diva dry 4 Simon. **no edits or mastering**

Soloists 2, \"close mic channel\" only.

Stereo mp3 @320k

You hit that high note!! Ouch!

*mp3 removed from server*

Hudson
07-11-2003, 02:31 PM
CDs are cheaper than a New Orleans octagenarian-hooker...of course, I\'m just going by what a friend told me, and my sincerest apologies for any visuals that may have created...point being, most good libraries have been offering both close and far miced samples lately, and there\'s a good reason for it. Don\'t skimp.

And just so I can finally get this through my thick skull, all this talk of legatos and performances is confusing, especially since VSL uses their Legato multisamples with the \'performance\' tool. Ya see why this is confusing? Perfomance files by your definition = loops and/or straight wave files *not* multisamples, correct? If it\'s a multisample with a legato feature like VSL, call it that. If it\'s a loop or a straight wave sample let\'s call it that as well. All this talk of perfomances and legatos if they\'re just plain loops is confusing to simple folk like me. You wanna call them exceptionally good loops? fine...but a loop is a loop is a loop.

From what I heard in the demo, this library has a great sound, but again...the loops don\'t interest me. I could see where they would be too distinct where it would actually hurt the library. I mean, how many times have you guys heard that SOV little-boy-allelujah bit in movies and TV? Kinda becomes a cliche because it\'s *so* distinct and recognizable, and I\'m not interested in sending someone a demo and having the same vocal line as some other guy featured in a song. The multisamples are where it counts for me. Can\'t wait to hear some of those in mp3!
-Hudson

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Francis Belardino:

I would love to give both but I think Diva would be a 4 CD set if I did.

Francis Belardino
07-11-2003, 02:35 PM
**edit

Okay Guys,

I really have to get back to work. Believe it or not I have pre-orders and adnvanced copies to get out. I think you guys have enough sound from Diva for now. After my beta team (LOL 2 GUYS) work on the multisamples we will post.

Take care and thanks for the kindwords.

FB

Simon,

Let me know what you thought of the dry sample.

Rob Elliott
07-11-2003, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by Francis Belardino:
Diva dry 4 Simon. **no edits or mastering**

Soloists 2, \"close mic channel\" only.

Stereo mp3 @320k

You hit that high note!! Ouch!

http://www.beladmedia.com/diva_dry_4_simon.mp3 (\"http://www.beladmedia.com/diva_dry_4_simon.mp3\") <font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">Hi Frank,

I like what I hear. Just so you know, I hit that high note once, but I had to slip on the soap in the shower to get there.

No really, I think this will be very successful (I cannot get enough voice sample libraries). When are you or Nick doing a \"boy\'s choir\"?

Thanks

Francis Belardino
07-11-2003, 03:14 PM
LOL

Boys choir?

....aaaaaaaaaand their off!

Nick jumps out in the lead and Frank says \"Girls Choir for me!\"

Hint!

Marty Prod
07-11-2003, 07:12 PM
hi

i would like to know how the library will work ?
is it like VOTA, and it will use a \"word building\" text program, or all the sample are on a giga program, and we must try to play with that ?

can you tell me more about how the whole thing will work from a player point of view ?

thanks

Francis Belardino
07-11-2003, 07:34 PM
Nothing mentioned about word building for Diva.

There are consonant vowels (pah, fah, zoh, gee) and the like, sampled chromatically up the scale per consonant, per soloist. It will sing to an extent but I doubt it will say \"Hello\".

Please see release notes

VOTA is a major Choir release that sells for $499.99

Diva\'s focal point is on the soft/haunting side of the FEMALE voice and will sell for $150.00 - $200.00.

Thank you,
FB

PS. Of course, if Nick\'s word bulding program designer wants a free copy of Diva to try and make it sing... That would be cool images/icons/smile.gif HINT HINT!!

greatzed
07-12-2003, 12:40 AM
I can\'t wait to hear the multi-samples. I need a good voice library and a haunting female solo voice is just what I need. Very cool. images/icons/grin.gif

Francis Belardino
07-12-2003, 07:14 AM
edit

Jazzhole
07-12-2003, 07:57 AM
Good news, would be cool if anyone would take the time to do a word building program ala VOTA utility. I would if my programing chops werent so out of date images/icons/wink.gif

Cant wait to hear more.

Cheers

Francis Belardino
07-12-2003, 09:59 AM
\"a much better example\"


They are all far Mic’ed samples. Do not look for a sweeping score... I am just scaling and altering tempo. I am playing this live in Giga with about 10% NVerb.


You will hear...

Soloist 1 (section 1, piano THEN VIA KEYSWITCH section 2, mezzo forte)

Then you will hear...

Soloist 2 (section 1, piano THEN VIA KEYSWITCH section, 2 mezzo forte)


There is still another \"same as above\" but there is 52 more consonants and they sing mezzo forte - forte.

Note: From dynamic too dynamic the sung consonants change.

*mp3 removed from server*

DUCK!

donimon
07-12-2003, 04:46 PM
It sounds great and will fill a sample void for many of us. Any idea on the release date?

Thanks,
JC

MDesigner
07-12-2003, 04:50 PM
Hey, just got home from a few days out of town.

I have to agree with Hudson to an extent.. the disadvantage of performance samples is that you start hearing them pop up in a lot of different places, and eventually you know it\'s Diva.. and then even consumers (non-musicians) start saying \"hey, I heard that before in such-and-such film or such-and-such movie.\" Like that damned bullet ricochet sound FX that sounds like someone going \"ah!\" I hear it in EVERY damned cartoon/game/wherever-else.. it has such a distinct sound, now I know it when I hear it.

I\'m not dismissing the value of the performance samples at all.. I think they sound great and they will be useful. But I can see where Hudson is coming from, in that many composers are looking more towards the value of being able to compose totally original passages using the chromatic straight-pitched samples.

By the way, Francis.. AWESOME mp3s in this thread! The far mic is great. I\'d say if you had to choose just one mic distance, pick the far mic! It sounds awesome as hell. Just my two cents.

Jazzhole
07-12-2003, 05:17 PM
I have waited for this library since it was announced, as people have said there is a great need for solo voices. Mdesigner is right though those halleluja patches in SOV must be used in thousands of soundtracks, but the broad public does not know this. And often thats the ones you compose for, if its for games, movies or television etc... If it sounds good in the context, then I dont mind using it several times.
Just my 2 swedish crowns.

Im really looking forward to this library
Cheers

Francis Belardino
07-12-2003, 05:23 PM
Cool Jazz,

I think you guys may be a tad confused here.

The performance files do not say anything. They are sung melodies (40 of them in three keys)

Now imagine if you slice and dice them. You will have 100 easy.

The soloists are singing with breath and natural legato and they are singing notes with moving vowels, not words.

I think you guys will rock the house with them.

Sam Hulick, took one file and you wouldn’t believe how cool it was after he put this massive strings movement in front of it.
The guy scares me images/icons/smile.gif

Jazzhole
07-12-2003, 06:13 PM
Yes I know Francis, Ive seen the patch list. And I know that it will contain VOTA\'esque sung letters and more.
The mp3 you posted was only consonants, I hate to tell you but how musical can only consonants sound ;D Anyway I dig the sound.

Cheers

Francis Belardino
07-12-2003, 06:56 PM
A word about Consonants:

There are 52 written and 104 sung.
52, for each soloist, sung slightly different, as you would imagine by recording two vocalists.

You can key switch from section to section... or from soloist 1 to soloist 2.

They seem to sing. You heard a beta demo composed by me images/icons/frown.gif eek!

I think they will have great use to a skilled composer.

Glad you dug the sound images/icons/smile.gif

Back to work!


ps. \"Yes I know Francis, Ive seen the patch list\"

Are we talking about CONSONANTS or PERFORMANCE FILES? lol

Jazzhole
07-12-2003, 07:28 PM
Ok Ok so Ive got bad english =)

Marty Prod
07-12-2003, 08:07 PM
too bad francis you didn\'t found a programmer guy to make you a program a la Vota images/icons/frown.gif

MDesigner
07-12-2003, 08:52 PM
Personally if I were developing Diva and we had a good programmer on hand, I would\'ve gone for a legato tool a la VSL instead of a word-building utility. IMO the word-building utilities are cool but the end result doesn\'t sound too convincing.. and I think the realism of VSL-style legato would be a lot more valuable to people than a word-builder. Lots of work for the soloists, though..

zquarles
07-12-2003, 09:29 PM
Francis-
This library sounds frickin\' awesome, I can\'t wait.
images/icons/smile.gif
me like choirs.

greatzed
07-12-2003, 09:29 PM
Oh, man, thinking about a VSL legato type tool for voice makes me all giddy inside. images/icons/grin.gif

Francis Belardino
07-12-2003, 09:59 PM
Rick and Sam, are working really hard to make the multi-samples section of Diva feel and play legato. We are getting very close by use of the recorded samples and a few tricks.

tob
07-13-2003, 12:04 AM
Originally posted by Francis Belardino:
Here is a 15 second “teaser” clip of Soloist 1 Consonants. Section 1 of 4.

Consonants sung:

Doh – Pah Fah
Dah Lah – Fah Doh

Loo Neh Loo Queh Loo –
Neh Loo Queh Hoo –

Hoo Rah.

FB

Ps. this section of Diva is in beta. We are testing to make it sing even more.

http://www.beladmedia.com/diva_cons_soloist_1_teaser.mp3 (\"http://www.beladmedia.com/diva_cons_soloist_1_teaser.mp3\") <font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">Be careful with the EQ. The voice is really harsh now. If you have to eq your recordings with eq-plugins, Waves Masters Linear Phase EQ is one of the best EQs if you want to avoid harsh top frequencies (one of the worst is for an example the VST 5.1 eq). The first demo sounded much better than this one. Sounds like it\'s almost mono too..

Good luck! images/icons/grin.gif

/Tobias

Alexcremers
07-13-2003, 12:42 AM
Whether or not and especially how you EQ is very personal but you always risk mutilating the original \"out of the box\" sound. I would like to know what I\'m really buying.

------------
Alex Cremers

Francis Belardino
07-13-2003, 08:09 AM
Hey Guys,

Thank you for the heads up. Do not worry. It is not the EQ of the samples. I EQ’ed the mp3. I think my ears were getting tired at that point.

Diva was recorded with no EQ (flat)and a small amount of compression. The only mastering that was done to the actual sample was Waves C4...

Rumble Hiss Reducer
BassComp/HiFreqLimit

Also, a light limiter was set to help keep a balance. Thats it.

Next posted sound will be flat! Out of the box sound.

BTW, my beta guys AND my composer have scolded me about posting WAY before Diva is ready. Who works for whom around here? LOL

I agree. I hope you like what you heard so far minus a few minor details.

Final word. We are working on some very cool things for Diva.
Key switching. Cross fades. Legato patches.

In addition, if I can not offer both close and far mics (that is my new goal)
Diva will be the far mic sample that King was digging.

Have a great day!

FB

zquarles
07-13-2003, 09:09 AM
Hey Francis I was thinking of something - if you cannot offer both close and far mic\'ed options out of the box, would there be a way to download the other option for existing customers, kind of like the solo french horn from SAM Horns?
Just a thought...
zq

Francis Belardino
07-13-2003, 09:15 AM
That is a great thought! Now why didn\'t I think of that?

Tell me more about it. What would someone be requesting?

Example:

soloist1/ee/close

or say

soloist2/oh/far

?

J. Whaley
07-13-2003, 09:15 AM
So what\'s your ETA on some real demos? Enough teasing images/icons/smile.gif

Francis Belardino
07-13-2003, 09:23 AM
Hey J.

We hope within a month or so. I believe Diva will be ready by end August - September.

I want to make this a \"out of the box\" joy...
and still leave room for crazy people like, King images/icons/smile.gif to alter it as they see fit.

KingIdiot
07-13-2003, 09:53 AM
Francis are you considering file compression at all?

RAR compression can get the file sizes to near half the amount in many cases.

If you\'re considering only not releasing due to CD/production sizes, maybe you should do one off\'s of the close mic position and off them to buyers of Diva at a price of 30 bucks or so plus shipping/

I\'m not sure how you\'re producing the CDs, but to be honest the one most ultimately frustrating thing that developers do is bump up the price due to jsut CD count. I cantunderstand if its completely more work, but multiple mics are actually quite easy to edit if you know what you\'re doing. There\'s alot of tricks that you can do to make the edits phase coherent and identical on both sets of samples. Production costs are also another thing but its not THAT much more $$$. Have you considered DVD instead?

BTW this is something you have to consider if you do do multiple mics, Keeping things Phase coherent. Especially if you are looping and editing/chopping performance samples.

I\'d also take a poll if theres onyl going to be one sample set. Find out publically which people like most.

zquarles
07-13-2003, 10:33 AM
Francis-
My thought was just that if you release the far mic\'ed versions on cd, then all the close mic\'ed would be available online through your website. The user would have to register the product then login to the website and download each of the close mic\'ed versions. Like King said, you could RAR them up to cut down on disc space and transfer times. You might need to get a hefty web host if you don\'t already have one if you chose to go this route.
I dunno...Just a thought. You may want to talk to Maarten about how ProjectSAM has all of that setup, because I certainly don\'t know all of the technicalities to get it all setup...

Francis Belardino
07-13-2003, 10:36 AM
\"If you\'re considering only not releasing due to CD/production sizes, maybe you should do one off\'s of the close mic position and off them to buyers of Diva at a price of 30 bucks or so plus shipping\"

The entire library close Mic\'ed for 30 bucks?
Or, do you mean per file?

\"I\'m not sure how you\'re producing the CDs, but to be honest the one most ultimately frustrating thing that developers do is bump up the price due to just CD count\"

There is a reason behind that. A. It is double the work to offer EVERYTHING as close AND far.
B. The cost of duplication doubles per CD.

Last: I did say close/far is my new goal. I want everyone to be happy images/icons/smile.gif

DVD - maybe the way to go. Rar compression I know not a lot about but that too is a great thought.

Now, if Diva is a 2 CD set due to the amount of samples you get...
$200.00 is very fair.

Thanks King:)

I am thinking about a Diva audio version as well.

Francis Belardino
07-13-2003, 12:03 PM
And I have to get back to work images/icons/smile.gif

Hugs and Kisses LOL

KingIdiot
07-13-2003, 12:57 PM
liek I said, you think about it straight forward like that and yup twice the work, but it DOESNT HAVE TO BE!

but

forget it images/icons/smile.gif

just forget it. I\'m not here to tell you how to do things, only suggest that things can be easier.

Francis Belardino
07-13-2003, 01:03 PM
King,

You know that I have nothing but respect for your tweaking talents. I was the first to call you a mad scientist. images/icons/smile.gif

So with that said...

Email me your ideals! I am open to anything that will make Diva useable to all users.

Maarten Spruijt
07-13-2003, 06:31 PM
Francis,

King is absolutely right. Twice the amount of mics does NOT mean twice the amount of work.

There are a lot of tools and tricks to avoid that.

Like... recording and playing back MACROS
Or... copy-pasting audio editor marker files from one wave to another
Or... Locking/grouping multiple channels and editing them all in one take in a multitrack audio editor.

Just so you know images/icons/wink.gif

Maarten

Francis Belardino
07-13-2003, 06:34 PM
Or... Locking/grouping multiple channels and editing them all in one take in a multitrack audio editor.


Sweet! Thanks for actually making a suggestion.

FB

Of course, I did not multitrack. It\'s L and R then MS.

Back to work!

KingIdiot
07-13-2003, 09:08 PM
I\'ve been totally swamped today so I haven\'t been able to reply with detailed descriptions and file links

Maarten and I have talked MUCH about ways to get around things and make things multiple times quicker for multiple mics images/icons/smile.gif

but thanks for actually making a suggestion Maarten images/icons/wink.gif

Francis Belardino
07-13-2003, 09:16 PM
You know it\'s funny. You know what I do all day for a living and I am ALWAYS finding new ways to make 8 hours of editing feel like 6 images/icons/smile.gif

Thanks for the input. I see some light at the end of this tunnel. I do dig the ideal of offering close mic samples to registerd user.

Have a great night!

KingIdiot
07-13-2003, 11:51 PM
Its NOT double the work. In fact if you do it right its .2 times the work

You can do identical edits very easily you just have to go in with a gameplan, and get the right tools.

Its easy to look at it this way, and so many developers do, everyone looks at it so straight forward. Get teh right tools and boom everything is a billion times easier, and you\'ve got more time to make the product better.

Anyway

I meant 30 bucks for a one off to registered users (because its not twice the work if you spend some time figuring out how to do it)

anyway, this is jsut a pet peeve of mine. I\'ve often said that if this is the way everyone thinks then I need to do a sample library that will release on 50 DVDs with 50 mic placements and charge 50 times the price images/icons/smile.gif I\'ll make billions images/icons/wink.gif

Francis Belardino
07-13-2003, 11:59 PM
Riddle me this Batman.

Lets take ah straight soloist 1 for example.

NOTE AH C3

1. edit the far mic ah c3
2. master the far mic ah c3
3. load into giga ah c3
4. tweak ah c3
5. save

Now do the whole thing again for a close mic sample. Multiply this by 13 samples just for the far mic and then 13 more for close.

IT\'S DOUBLE THE WORK!!!

Which is fine. But please don\'t assume that I not uderstand you. I have tools, King.

Anyone here that has or is making a CD want to correct me or king or us? I do not see it any other way.

AND just to piss people off images/icons/smile.gif There a libraries out there that cost 3x what Diva will ...no close and far mics.

Francis Belardino
07-17-2003, 08:14 AM
Update 3:
The posted \"teaser\" mp3 cuts off before the movement trurly ends. I will fix this tonight and re upload. The \"new\" mp3 will have \"hi cycle noise\" removed as well. You can A/B the fix.

Update 2:
The matter of a high cycle ring noise has been isolated from soloist one. This is what Simon and KC had heard. This was not the fault of an mp3 or mastering. It has been removed and the natural highs remain.

Update 1:
Diva will embrace close and far mic\'ed samples.

News 2:
More great news to make up for all the hype
DIVA EXTENDED

Straight tone, sustained vowels from Soloist 1 and 2 ... ah, oo, oh, ee, mm.
10 additional Performance files from Soloists 1
< A minor >
10 additional Performance files from Soloists 2
< C minor >
Diva Effects:
< Breathing, whispering, moaning, grunting, laughter, cries >

Diva Extended
$49.99… registered user of Diva.
$99.99… non-registered users of Diva

Xenakis
07-17-2003, 01:34 PM
I am glad that you decided to add an expansion with effects.

Francis Belardino
07-19-2003, 08:40 AM
**Radio edit**

Beep

Jazzhole
07-19-2003, 02:09 PM
Thanx for sending me one more teaser Francis, things are beginning to really shape up. I actually got goosebumps on this one, I really love the articulation, vibrato and tone of the divas. Thanks for the private teaser Francis, and may I add that I am saving up a few midi channels on my current gig for this. Now where just waiting on the wordbuilding app images/icons/wink.gif *hint*

Cheers and good luck

KingIdiot
07-19-2003, 02:22 PM
Hey I never said I wouldnt take a look at it, and throw some ideas your way images/icons/wink.gif

hehe

I jsut cant devote full time/will to really program it, like I\'ve done to stuff liek DDBE, and GOS and this \"other\" gig. Not to mention I\'ll prolly be burnt on long haul programming/editing for a litle bit.

Still, I never like to turn down free stuff images/icons/wink.gif

Francis Belardino
07-19-2003, 02:35 PM
Jazz,

Thank you for sharing your input.
Your reply rocks! images/icons/smile.gif

King,

Burnt huh? I know the feeling. I would be gald to
have you shed some light once I get to the final days before release. Not to mention that the folks here at NS will feel even better about Diva knowing the King\'ster has created a few art files.

With that said... get back to work, Man!

LOL

Francis Belardino
07-20-2003, 01:05 PM
see top of thread

Xenakis
07-28-2003, 08:24 AM
When can we expect to hear some full demos of the Diva libary?

Francis Belardino
07-28-2003, 06:22 PM
Xenakis,

Thank you for your inquiry.

You can find additional information on the website (redesigned) as well as a re-mastered beta mp3. There are also two free Giga files posted.

Legato Flute and Performance Harps.

KC. will be posting a “full score” demo release and I will be posting a “Voice Over” demo on the forum before September 5th (Diva release date).

Look for user demos by, Aaron Sapp and Sam Hulick as well.

Sincerely
Francis Belardino


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