tomhartman
07-02-2003, 09:22 PM
Most troubling indeed.
Picture Matrix 2 with no open brass fanfare, a JAWS sequel with a new theme and no shark motiff, and you\'ll have an idea of what T3 is like without Brad\'s theme. Oh, you do hear it....during the END CREDITS.
This is one of the most amazing blunders I\'ve seen in recent filmmaking. The producers are on record as saying ...and I\'m paraphrasing...\'Everytime we tried the original theme, it just brought viewers back to T1 and T2.\'
I will allow that comment to speak for itself.
\' We needed an orchestral score because of the scope of this film.\' Apparently the producers had not seen T2.
T2 could easily have used a straight large score, but that\'s what made BF\'s score work so well...it was unexpected.
The score itself has some nice moments, as well as some \"I\'m REALLY getting tired of hearing men and women\'s choir\" moments as well. All in all it does it\'s best to support a very sound FX- heavy film. That\'s why Brad\'s score worked so well too...sometimes you couldn\'t tell whether you were hearing score or FX....they did not fight each other as this score tugs and pulls for attention amongst all manner of truck crashes, explosions and miniguns, mixed really HOT.
The film itself, has some pretty impressive moments. For all the talk about the freeway scene in \"Reloaded,\" T3 has an insane \"Trucks Gone Wild\" sequence that had to be at least as complicated to put onscreen. Very impressive.
The T-X female cyborg is just wonderful....makes the cop robot in T2 look like Barney. Easy on the eyes too, but I WISH filmmakers would stop insulting everyone\'s intelligence with this pistol thing....how many shots does her semi automatic handgun have...20, 30??? Perhaps it\'s a special \"terminator pistol.\"
Claire Danes, as Kate Brewster, does not fare as well. This women has to be related to the upper brass somewhere (as Lorraine Gary was married to the head of Universal and was magically cast as Brody\'s wife in \"Jaws\").
There are 300 actresses in Hollywood who could have done this part, any 299 of which would have stronger screen presence than Ms. Danes. All I could think of in her closeups was \"Gotta get that nose fixed\" as she babbled on.
Nick Stahl is OK but lacks that something that really makes you care one way or the other. Like a certain MATRIX star I know..
Arnold is in top form. Looks great, and has some great one liners as usual, especially in a scene in an AM-PM quickstore.
SPOILERS AHEAD>.........
Random note....Why does the Dane character get over the murder of her fiancee in what seems to be mere moments? Oh well...
The film actually had me thinking it was going to be very good until the final 20 minutes or so. There is a scene with Dane\'s father that almost looks like an Austin Powers outake, or something you\'d see on \"The Time Tunnel.\" Bad sets, bad acting, no common sense (his daughter just parades into the top secret SKYNET headquarters with Arnold and Connor in tow, walks right up to Daddy and starts talking.)
Most disturbing, is Arnold\'s exit from the film. Just flat...nothing emotional as in T2, he\'s just suddenly gone, and we have Claire and Connor to deal with for another 8 minutes. If this is truly the last of the series, it\'s an ignoble end to Arnold. A very disappointing climax, save for the fact that we get to hear Brad\'s score for the END CREDITS( just before the obligatory hard rock track kicks in, lest the youngsters be offended by all those strings and horns). And Arnold does say, \"well meet again.\" Maybe he means on the DVD or something.
As always, JMHO, and yes, I\'ll see it again;)
Picture Matrix 2 with no open brass fanfare, a JAWS sequel with a new theme and no shark motiff, and you\'ll have an idea of what T3 is like without Brad\'s theme. Oh, you do hear it....during the END CREDITS.
This is one of the most amazing blunders I\'ve seen in recent filmmaking. The producers are on record as saying ...and I\'m paraphrasing...\'Everytime we tried the original theme, it just brought viewers back to T1 and T2.\'
I will allow that comment to speak for itself.
\' We needed an orchestral score because of the scope of this film.\' Apparently the producers had not seen T2.
T2 could easily have used a straight large score, but that\'s what made BF\'s score work so well...it was unexpected.
The score itself has some nice moments, as well as some \"I\'m REALLY getting tired of hearing men and women\'s choir\" moments as well. All in all it does it\'s best to support a very sound FX- heavy film. That\'s why Brad\'s score worked so well too...sometimes you couldn\'t tell whether you were hearing score or FX....they did not fight each other as this score tugs and pulls for attention amongst all manner of truck crashes, explosions and miniguns, mixed really HOT.
The film itself, has some pretty impressive moments. For all the talk about the freeway scene in \"Reloaded,\" T3 has an insane \"Trucks Gone Wild\" sequence that had to be at least as complicated to put onscreen. Very impressive.
The T-X female cyborg is just wonderful....makes the cop robot in T2 look like Barney. Easy on the eyes too, but I WISH filmmakers would stop insulting everyone\'s intelligence with this pistol thing....how many shots does her semi automatic handgun have...20, 30??? Perhaps it\'s a special \"terminator pistol.\"
Claire Danes, as Kate Brewster, does not fare as well. This women has to be related to the upper brass somewhere (as Lorraine Gary was married to the head of Universal and was magically cast as Brody\'s wife in \"Jaws\").
There are 300 actresses in Hollywood who could have done this part, any 299 of which would have stronger screen presence than Ms. Danes. All I could think of in her closeups was \"Gotta get that nose fixed\" as she babbled on.
Nick Stahl is OK but lacks that something that really makes you care one way or the other. Like a certain MATRIX star I know..
Arnold is in top form. Looks great, and has some great one liners as usual, especially in a scene in an AM-PM quickstore.
SPOILERS AHEAD>.........
Random note....Why does the Dane character get over the murder of her fiancee in what seems to be mere moments? Oh well...
The film actually had me thinking it was going to be very good until the final 20 minutes or so. There is a scene with Dane\'s father that almost looks like an Austin Powers outake, or something you\'d see on \"The Time Tunnel.\" Bad sets, bad acting, no common sense (his daughter just parades into the top secret SKYNET headquarters with Arnold and Connor in tow, walks right up to Daddy and starts talking.)
Most disturbing, is Arnold\'s exit from the film. Just flat...nothing emotional as in T2, he\'s just suddenly gone, and we have Claire and Connor to deal with for another 8 minutes. If this is truly the last of the series, it\'s an ignoble end to Arnold. A very disappointing climax, save for the fact that we get to hear Brad\'s score for the END CREDITS( just before the obligatory hard rock track kicks in, lest the youngsters be offended by all those strings and horns). And Arnold does say, \"well meet again.\" Maybe he means on the DVD or something.
As always, JMHO, and yes, I\'ll see it again;)