Steinway Screenshot - Different Perspectives

[Garritan]

Here is a screenshot of the Steinway interface showing the different perspectives.

Just click on one of the Microphone Positions.

garritan.com/Steinway/steinway2.swf

This animation of the different perspectives will be in the ARIA sampler when you select it. A big thank you to Sean for doing the fancy flash presentation.

Gary Garritan

[Rhap2]

I want it, I want it, I want it.........



Jack

[efiebke]

It looks very snappy, Gary!

The Garritan Steinway is my next purchase, Mr. Gary. When it's available for sale, out will come the ol' credit card! LOL! :)

Ted

[jjloving]

THAT is a beautiful thing. And it gets better - no fingerprints!

[artinro]

It looks beautiful Gary,
Very classy interface! I look forward to hearing the instrument as well. Any guesses as to when it might be shipping? ;)

Cheers, Gary. Beautiful work.

[Craig F]

That is so cool. I really don't have need for the Steinway but at $99 for the basic version, I may have to just get it to check out the Aria player. :)

[karvasika]

That looks even cooler than I thought!!!

Can't wait to buy it! I check this forum many times a day, just to see, if it's already available for (pre)order. :)

[KeviD]

Very very nice, well done Gary and team. Can't wait for mine to arrive.

[klassical]

Hah! I didn't fully understand what you were getting at until I actually clicked on one of the Microphone Position buttons. Very slick.

I'm not so sure about that rug, though. Could you allow the user to choose from a selection of rugs? ;) ;) ;)

- k

[Garritan]

I'm not so sure about that rug, though. Could you allow the user to choose from a selection of rugs? ;) ;) ;)
klassical,

I know you really want that pink shag rug. Maybe in an update we can have rug selection :D

Gary ;)

[rwayland]

Well, actually, I like the rug. It reminds me of my colleague's store of many years ago, but he sold the Hamburg Steinway.

I am still in the throes of a fit of angst wondering exactly what the differences between the three versions are, or if there are differences other than perspective. I am also concerned that it might not work on my system. Waiting won't keep me awake, but it will give me something to worry about while falling asleep.

Richard

[karvasika]

If someone plays very badly, will the rug rise and take the Steinway away? :-O

[Garritan]

If someone plays very badly, will the rug rise and take the Steinway away? :-O

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:lcG-XemekXBScM:http://www.theflyingcarpet.co.nz/Assets/Logos/Si.jpg

[karvasika]

Mr Steinway, I assume? )(~

[etLux]

Wow!

Molto cool!

And the carpet comes with it, right?

Really slick interface -- looks like even
mere humans can comprehend it!

Best,


David
www.DavidSosnowski.com
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[Reegs]

If someone plays very badly, will the rug rise and take the Steinway away? :-O

Why not do the old tablecloth with the fine china on it gag? Only this time the fine china is a five hundred pound Steinway D:D

[karvasika]

Maybe there will be a knob to set the amount of kids around the Steinway watching the gag. :)

[musicpete]

Looks like an interesting but completely useless gimmick! I like those! )(~

So how do you mix your own perspective from the available ones, after you stop ogling the nice little videos?

[trentpmcd]

This is cool. I’m starting to get excited about this. I’ll have to start saving my pennies…..

[etLux]

It's very frustrating.

It certainly is; both for those of us awaiting the
Steinway, and those creating the product.

But the reality of software development is that it almost
always takes longer than anyone ever expected.

Just a little more patience... it won't be too much longer!

All my best,



David
www.DavidSosnowski.com
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[klassical]

Hi ProPianist -

I also understand your frustration. I upgraded to Sibelius 5 with the understanding that they would be providing a SoundSet for a non-Garritan library that I have. They said they would have it in 2 weeks. I went to their site every day for a month and then again asked when it would be ready. Again they said 2 weeks. Many months have passed since then and they now say they don't know when (or even if) it will be ready.

But this is the nature of software development. Vista was years late. Where I work, a product that was supposed ship on Nov 15, 2007 is still in active development. Serious bugs are found, other products complete for the developers time, competitors release a similar product with a feature your's doesn't have and you decide to add it at the last moment, etc.

As Gary said in another post, the only alternative is to keep everyone in the dark until it is virtually complete. He's showing us bits and pieces to build up customer interest and awareness, but he can't 'let the cat out of the bag' too soon - especially if the cat is still actively being developed.

As for the rug - I'm the one that brought that up. It was a joke. We were just having some fun.

Hang in there. We are all hoping (especially Gary) that the final product will have been worth the wait.

- k

[etLux]

As for the rug - I'm the one that brought that up. It was a joke.

- k

What! Tell me it isn't so, K., tell me it isn't so!

If the carpet doesn't come with it, I may have to reconsider...

.

[Davidart]

I'm sure it will sound better without the carpet.

[qccowboy]

But that is exactly what I do NOT want in a sample player...

Pretty little CG graphics of moving camera angels... I really don't care. That's just crap that takes up memory space for nothing. Am I wrong to think this way? Is the future of software all to be glitz and glamour?

I have absolutely NO doubt what so ever that any instrument Gary designs/records/sells us will sound wonderful. In Gary we trust.

But somehow, when I think about the graphics engine needed to run the player that runs the sample player that plays the instruments... I get the impression there's a WHOLE lot of computational power being wasted on pretty graphics.

Do we really need to have a flying camera angle zooming inside the piano cover when we decide to change the audio angle? I'm a wannabe Rachmaninov.. not a wannabe Spielberg.

I know, I'm a real wet blanket. I'm sorry, but aren't my concerns valid? You already know I love the products (I wouldn't advertise them on my website if I didn't!).

[valhalx]

How about a cat sleeping on the rug.

http://www.valhalx.com/s1.jpg

[Garritan]

But somehow, when I think about the graphics engine needed to run the player that runs the sample player that plays the instruments... I get the impression there's a WHOLE lot of computational power being wasted on pretty graphics.

Very little computational power is used for the graphics - virtually insignificant.


Do we really need to have a flying camera angle zooming inside the piano cover when we decide to change the audio angle? I'm a wannabe Rachmaninov.. not a wannabe Spielberg.

Nifty eye candy is nice to have also. This also gives people an idea of where the microphones were placed. People have been asking for screenshots so I provided one.


I know, I'm a real wet blanket. That would be a wet rug. :D Chill Qccowboy :) - you haven't been your usual positive self lately.

Best,

Gary

[fastlane]

A uncluttered and esthetically pleasing look.

The animation is a nice touch and provides a connection to the source of the sounds.

Well, I guess I can print out a Steinway And Sons logo and tape it over my Clavinova's logo. I can always dream.



Phil

[nikolas]

Pretty little CG graphics of moving camera angels... I really don't care. That's just crap that takes up memory space for nothing. Am I wrong to think this way? Is the future of software all to be glitz and glamour?
For 40 GB of hard disk space, I doubt the nifty little animation will take too much space, Michel. ;)

And for what this is, it should be all nice and looking beautiful. Plus to be honest, I never knew the "exact positions" of the mics on the different perspectives. It's one thing to hear "stage mic" and another to actually be placed exactly where the mic is.

For me, who I care for the final product, this is a big positive thinking, since I can arrange my reverb(s) accordingly and the easier way possible.

As for the demos, I'm also waiting forward to these. At least Gary is not preselling like some other companies... I know people who bought a product in the 17th of January 2007 on a presale and are still waiting for get it! Talk about patience! :D

[Gesticulator01]

Ooh la la! Nice bit of Steinway visual ambience for the authorised version. Afterall, a Steinway D is a very beautiful looking thing right?

With the kind of expectations that come with this, as propianist pointed out - I can understand the developers wanting to get it right for first impressions...

[darrob]

How about a cat sleeping on the rug.

http://www.valhalx.com/s1.jpg


Wouldn't this be more appropriate?

http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Etara/darrin/steinway.jpg

Cheers...

[valhalx]

ROFL LMAO!!!! Good!

[etLux]

http://davidsosnowski.com/images/G_Steinway.jpg

[Garritan]

I'm not upset that it's taking a long time - so does making a real Steinway.
I'm upset that there has been very little information for us customers.We're working on a Steinway page now as mentioned in our sticky update post. We hope to have it up in about a week or two. There will be no mp3s until after the product ships.

We'll post more particulars soon.

Thanks for your interest.

Best,

Gary Garritan

[Garritan]

etLux, you finally dressed for the occasion! :D :) ;)


http://davidsosnowski.com/images/G_Steinway.jpg

[etLux]

Those are my pajamas...

[caher]

Liberace was a Baldwin Artist! :D

Regards,
Chris

PS: I'm happy to wait for the $&$ (old piano industry joke!). If Gary and company's other products are anything to go by, it will be worth it.

http://davidsosnowski.com/images/G_Steinway.jpg

[Styxx]

I may be late on this but I don't think my feet will go that far to the right. :D

Hey, this is quite impressive Gary!

[etLux]

Liberace was a Baldwin Artist! :D

Regards,
Chris



Yes, but as I keep telling him, it's still not too late to change his mind.

Best,


David
www.DavidSosnowski.com
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[Nickie Fønshauge]

There will be no mp3s until after the product ships.

Surely you don't expect people to buy a library, they haven't heard a single tone of?

If people are seriuos about their music, they don't buy a sample library solely based on fancy screen shots, they buy it (or don't buy it) based on demos of its sound.

I have to concur with propianist about this. It's demos we need, not screen shots.

[Garritan]

Surely you don't expect people to buy a library, they haven't heard a single tone of?

If people are seriuos about their music, they don't buy a sample library solely based on fancy screen shots, they buy it (or don't buy it) based on demos of its sound.

I have to concur with propianist about this. It's demos we need, not screen shots.Nickie,

Demos will come - they always do. Nevertheless, I advise anyone to wait until some demos are made available when the library is available.

Gary Garritan

[Davidart]

I'm sure the Steinway piano is going to sound fantastic if the GPO piano is anything to go by. But there must be a first purchaser thats going to buy it without hearing any demos.
So who would buy a car without giving it a test drive. I certainly would'nt.

[June-Bug-Dan]

I want it, I want it, I want it.........



Jack

Well there go's my thoughts!:D

Dan.

[Thomas J]

I will go on record as buying the Steinway without hearing any demos first. I think the current GPO Steinway is a beautiful instrument. I'm sure the new Steinway will be even more amazing.

[Nickie Fønshauge]

Demos will come - they always do. Nevertheless, I advise anyone to wait until some demos are made available when the library is available.
"Wait" is such a difficult word. I am dying to hear this baby :)

[giwro_jon]

For those wanting demos.....

I'm sure Mr. G has good reasons for not releasing them as yet....

Having said that, let me offer this:

Please, if it is any consolation to you, I played the Beta last year at NAMM 2007 and was totally blown away. I'm rather picky about what I like to hear in a piano, and have never been really satisfied with any of the sampled ones I have tried. Not only was the sound the best (most realistic) I've ever heard, but even in the fairly early stages this was in, I found it to be very playable and responsive, with a smooth dynamic gradation from PPP to FFF (none of the issues I've seen in competing products). I also was not able to bring the sampler to its knees with fast runs and lots of notes - it took everything I threw at it ( I only got two tiny little breakups, and those were with a double-forearm slam :D and lots of arpeggios with pedal down).

From those of us who have actually heard it, I think we'd all agree it is awesome, and that the demos (when they appear) will only prove what we've said - this one is a quantum leap ahead for sampled pianos.

~~

There are a lot of reasons behind the maneuvering that software companies do - you would probably not believe some of the crazy things competitors will do to try and demean, copy or otherwise cause problems for each other. Sadly, this often affects how much information can be shared prior to a release. My hat is off to Gary, as he never resorts to saying bad things about another product or company, and always is very willing to compliment the good work of others. If the rest of the industry were to emulate his gentlemanly conduct, there would be no need for secrecy and caution when developing new products.

~~

My advice is to trust that Gary's good faith and consistent output of excellence and the concept that since future libraries are all slated for
ARIA, many of the delay issues we've faced will disappear, since Garritan and Plougue will have control of the software.

~~

It's hard to wait, but let's trust it will be worth it, and try to be as kind and polite as possible while we do.

Peace,

- Jonathan

[karvasika]

I can also say I'm buying the Steinway without hearing it first. here are few things that allow me to say this:

-it's the only authorized Steinway, meaning the quality must be something exceptional

-playability has been an important aspect in Garritan products, so it can't be a 30-gigabyte instrument with a requirement of an external hard drive

-I own GPO and the quality of the Steinway in GPO alone is very good. Even the GPO Steinway is currently my favourite instrument, I like to play it and I like what comes out from it. It's only 2 velocity layers and we're talking about an instrument that's a part of a software instrument bundle with dozens of other instruments and it still shines. Also knowing Steinway has multiple micing positions and the fact that it's a product dedicated to making one instrument very good, it can't be any less than the Steinway in GPO

-knowing ARIA player can't be worse than Kontakt Player 2 - there must be something Gary and fellows learned from using KP2 in their products and they have made those things better

-having heard the testimonials from the people who actually tried it at NAMM

For those who are willing to wait to hear demos, I'm sure the demos will appear few days after they start shipping, but I know I won't wait for them. :samurai: