Dan Dean Libraries and Error Code 5 message

[Mark UK]

It is so strange.

I have upgraded to an AMD XP1800+ with 512MB DDR ram and I cannot even load a single instrument from the Dan Dean solo woodwinds or brass library even with nothing else loaded! The message error reads:

\"Error Code 5 - There was a problem with the Gigastudio file. Unable to allocate the memory required to download the instrument\"

The CPU is sitting at 5% and no other instruments are loaded. I have Gigastudio loaded on a separate HD drive to the giga files. (C and E drives)

Can anyone suggest something to solve this problem? For example, the french horn patch I am trying to load is only 5MB, and with nothing else loaded, it is unable to load due to insufficient memory.

Thanks in advance

Mark

[composer22]

What OS version?
What are you [vcache] settings?
If Win98SE, have you performed optimizations as notated in previous threads?

also, what versino of GS?

Do any other sounds load from other libraries AOK?

DId you run the sysmonitor utilities to see if memory is free (find in accessories)?

Could be a corrupt file, did you try loading back from CDROM?



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[composer22]

also, what versino of GS?

Do any other sounds load from other libraries AOK?

DId you run the sysmonitor utilities to see if memory is free (find in accessories)?

[donnie]

I agree with composer22...it sounds like a vcache setting issue....


Donnie

[Mark UK]

Thanks for your replies Composer22 and Donnie - and sorry to have been a bit vague before.

I am now using Windows 2000 Pro and version 2.5 of GS.

I think it is a problem with vcache too although have no idea how to change the vcache settings without messing everything up!

[Mark UK]

OS Name Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional
System Manufacturer VIA694
Processor x86 Family 6 Model 6
Total Physical Memory 523,760 KB
Available Physical Memory 278,152 KB
Total Virtual Memory 1,802,876 KB
Available Virtual Memory 1,376,740 KB
Page File Space 1,279,116 KB

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[composer22]

Check out these pages:
http://www.prorec.com/prorec/articles.nsf/articles/45BEB3250308114E86256A7F007D8FA4 (\"http://www.prorec.com/prorec/articles.nsf/articles/45BEB3250308114E86256A7F007D8FA4\")
http://www.tascam.com/products/computer_recording/W2k_XP_Optimize.pdf (\"http://www.tascam.com/products/computer_recording/W2k_XP_Optimize.pdf\")

You shouldn\'t have to set vcache, but you may want to try and find taht parm.

What other apps do you have installed on the machine? Do you have any services running such as virus software?

Are you up to date with drivers, OS updates and the like?

Disable everything except what is important. Look at the bootlog for driver installations, failures etc.

Hard to do long distance...could be hardware...software...bad files...etc etc

[Mark UK]

It seems that this problem might have actually been due to a damaged ram chip.

The techie guys are taking a look at it today and will let me know.

Thanks to all who offered suggestions.

[paul28]

Hi Mark!
I have the same problem, Error 5 etc., it happens at 48% RAM-Usage, no matter which files are loaded.
I also use Win2000, Giga-Version 2.5 with 1.5 Gig RAM.
I don´t think that there´s anything wrong with my RAM, because there are no comparable mistakes with any other applications.
Do you have any news considering this problem?

[composer22]

I also have this problem 1.5gb XP P4...

Mine occurs randomly when I load a file or when I go over the 92% mark.

Giga is saying i am 92% full yet msinfo32.exe says I have around 400 mb free or 26%. Pleae see if you get same differences when you run giga and load files.

I played around with IoPageLockLimit in registry, but this didnt help. You can try and see if that helps

BKR

[esteven1]

It happenes to me every day at 48% and I have 1.5 gigs of ram.... I just kind gave up becuase I don\'t know how to fix it. I\'m on windows 2000

[composer22]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by esteven1:
It happenes to me every day at 48% and I have 1.5 gigs of ram.... I just kind gave up becuase I don\'t know how to fix it. I\'m on windows 2000<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It happens randomly here but I will see if I can get a more accurate measurement next time it fails on load.

XP, P4, 2.5.48, 1.5 gig, INTEL 850gb Mobo, Delta 66, NVIDEA, MidiSport 4x4.

Sent my dumps to Tascam...doubt they will give me any feedback. I was about to buy another 512 mb but now think this is a more serious problem with the release.

Tried researching every REG tweak...nothing looks good. IN fact, IOPage__ above I believe is ignored in winXP. My belief right now is that no reg tweaks are gonna make a difference

Oh I also ran extensive POST tests on memory and BIOS - no problems, and its ECC

Its in Tascams hands =(


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[composer22]

(double post see above)

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[Mark UK]

ah! i am not the only one!! (Phew!)

I spent SO many hours trying to figure this one out without too much success. I am now able to do less with my AMD1800+ with 512mb DDram than I could with my P3 500 with 512mb SD ram!

I have been so busy recently that I have not had enough time to further investigate. I too was just going to bite the bullet and buy a further 512mb ram to see if that was the problem but now i wonder....

For example, even loading the NV patch of one of the DD solo libraries, I use about 25% of the total memory! 3 NV patches (note: not even the whole instrument file!) and my system can\'t do anything more.

I have great polyphony, reaching 160, but there certainly seems something wrong with memory allocation and usage using Giga 2.5.

The PC doctors I took my system too said it is working just fine. Everything else about my system is great, except working with Giga!

[dandean]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by paul28:

Hi Mark!
I have the same problem, Error 5 etc., it happens at 48% RAM-Usage, NO MATTER WHICH FILES ARE LOADED.
I also use Win2000, Giga-Version 2.5 with 1.5 Gig RAM.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just to keep things in proper perspective, note that this problem is not a DDP sound library issue. It will happen with any large library with the new XP/2000 operating system, new hardware and GigaStudio 2.5.

I\'m not using 2000/XP, but I have received reports from other users and associates that the best way around this is to use the last beta of 2.5 before the final public release. See if this helps.

Later,
Dan Dean

[Mark UK]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by dandean:
Just to keep things in proper perspective, note that this problem is not a DDP sound library issue. It will happen with any large library with the new XP/2000 operating system, new hardware and GigaStudio 2.5.

I\'m not using 2000/XP, but I have received reports from other users and associates that the best way around this is to use the last beta of 2.5 before the final public release. See if this helps.

Later,
Dan Dean <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hi Dan

I am using the final public release of 2.5. I will try the0 release prior to this beta version as you suggest.

To make absolutely clear on my part, I am in no way saying it is a problem with Dan Dean libraries directly - just that as a result of my technical problem I can\'t LOAD the libraries, due to the size of each of the DD instruments (6mb)

I think there must be a problem with the Giga 2.5 final beta version. If it was just me I\'d say I had a problem with the installation, but now others are saying they have problems with higher spec machines.....


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[composer22]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mark UK:
...I think there must be a problem with the Giga 2.5 final beta version. If it was just me I\'d say I had a problem with the installation, but now others are saying they have problems with higher spec machines.....
[This message has been edited by Mark UK (edited 04-16-2002).]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Confirmed on higher spec machine yes (1.5 gb). NOT just the libraries. I have NO idea how to get a beta version to work around this release version problem. I emailed tascam and we are posting on their forums... =( a VERY sad customer I just boght additional memory and upgraded to XP to break the 1 gig barrier

[composer22]

Latest:

Tascam has my information...they said to hang tight as the SE is looking at my dumps of registry, services, msinfo, event logs and of course the giga diagnostics

[drg]

go to download.com and dowload a program called cacheman under the \"optimizations\" tab there is an I/o lock option- set this high relative to how much ram you have. I have 512mb and set it at 440. this should fix any allocation problems w/ win 2000.

[composer22]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by drg:
go to download.com and dowload a program called cacheman under the \"optimizations\" tab there is an I/o lock option- set this high relative to how much ram you have. I have 512mb and set it at 440. this should fix any allocation problems w/ win 2000.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The IOlock option is IGNORED in XP according to docs...

I have mine set to over 192 MB and still have problems

Cache man is useless with XP

[JWink]

I had the same problem described here, downloaded Cacheman, and changed the IO Page setting to 440, and it fixed the problem. And it was Windows XP.

[Mark UK]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JWink:
I had the same problem described here, downloaded Cacheman, and changed the IO Page setting to 440, and it fixed the problem. And it was Windows XP.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


I downloaded cacheman and there is no configurations tab.... well none that I can see!

[composer22]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JWink:
I had the same problem described here, downloaded Cacheman, and changed the IO Page setting to 440, and it fixed the problem. And it was Windows XP.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Goto TWEAKS in CacheMan

This is the same as the IoPageLockLimit key in the registry which you can add and tweak...

I used Cacheman as well as registry and still same problem with XP.

MS XP accordingly ignores this according to documentaton on the web by tuning xperts

[Mark UK]

Thanks Composer.

I have reset the value to 440 and it does seem to be quite a bit better. With Giga and OS only open (and firewall and antivirus programmes running) I am using 135mb of 512mb... I assume this is quite ok?

[composer22]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mark UK:
Thanks Composer.

I have reset the value to 440 and it does seem to be quite a bit better. With Giga and OS only open (and firewall and antivirus programmes running) I am using 135mb of 512mb... I assume this is quite ok?

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thats seems quite correct for teh amount of memory you have

Question:

Did you try loading as many instruments as you can?

You could get smae results as you approach upper limits now. Try dragging and dropping as many sounds as you can into giga until the % reaches into the 90%+ mark and see if you still get ERROR 5\'s...

also, at your present state or after the 90% mark, try using msinfo to see how much memory you have free.

Start/programs/accessories/system tools/system information

or from start..choose run and type msinfo32.exe

Id be curious on the differences between the percent that gig reports and msinfo\'s physical memory free.

also, disable the virus program if you can for giga. It comsumes...

Let me know your results cause it could help me! And it may also prove out that the problem still exists. Also you should try loading this a number of times because the change you put in may have affected memory in some way and it may still be there lurking...you may need to stress test it a bit more

[Mark UK]

With only Giga open (and norton utilities still running) having used 99% as indicated in Giga, msinfo shows the following:


Total Physical Memory 512.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 15.26 MB
Total Virtual Memory 1.72 GB
Available Virtual Memory 861.14 MB
Page File Space 1.22 GB

I did get an error code message but I think it was Error Code 1006 which I guess is quite normal as it REALLY doesn\'t have enough memory to load anything else...

Maybe I should buy another 256mb and see what happens!


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[composer22]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mark UK:
With only Giga open (and norton utilities still running) having used 99% as indicated in Giga, msinfo shows the following:


Total Physical Memory 512.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 15.26 MB
Total Virtual Memory 1.72 GB
Available Virtual Memory 861.14 MB
Page File Space 1.22 GB

I did get an error code message but I think it was Error Code 1006 which I guess is quite normal as it REALLY doesn\'t have enough memory to load anything else...

Maybe I should buy another 256mb and see what happens!


[This message has been edited by Mark UK (edited 04-16-2002).]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
This is helpful...

I think you have solved your problem. I was never able to reach 99% on win98SE wth 1gig.

I am thinking it might have something to do with going over 1 gig on XP, as I and others are over this limit. I have a couple of new tweaks to try, but we will see what tascam comes back with.

Don\'t forget to run through all teh optimization tricks off of the TASCAM optimization file on their main page (PDF format) if you have not already done so.

Else, you are good to write some music...

Thanks!!!

[Haydn]

Mark,

You need to open up Task Manager to see what is eating up your memory. You can\'t load any instruments because you\'re out of physical memory. Open up the Task Manager by using the Ctrl-Shift-Esc keys. Then click on the processes tab. This will show all of the processes running on your machine and how much CPU and memory usage. Find the process(es) using the large amount of memory. It looks like you have a memory leak. My system I\'m typing this on is a Windows XP system with 192 MB of RAM. I have 24 MB of free physical memory and I\'m running a half dozen apps including Outlook, Internet Explorer and a couple other Microsoft pigs.

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[PatS]

Also, try Sysinternals\' free Process Explorer (\"http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/procexp.shtml\"), if you want to delve into the innards of your system\'s processes.

Pat

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[composer22]

Good for processes...but I need a way to figure out memory pooling allocations

Now Im getting Error Code 0 as I am about 1/2 way through loading

[composer22]

Threw away most of the settings. Here is my giga dump of key MemoryManagement reg keys

ClearPageFileAtShutdown: 0x00000000 (0)

Explain: Flushes the swap file (zeros it out) on system shutdown

DisablePagingExecutive: 0x00000000 (0)

explain: Keeps Kernel frm swapping to disk.

LargeSystemCache: 0x00000000 (0)

Explain: same setting as on the advanced performance screen when you enable cache. Trys to cache all of OS if possible

Following are calculated automatically by system on boot. You can set these via the following although I didnt see any dramatic difference in my system.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q126402 (\"http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q126402\")

NonPagedPoolQuota: 0x00000000 (0)
NonPagedPoolSize: 0x00000000 (0)
PagedPoolQuota: 0x00000000 (0)
PagedPoolSize: 0x00000000 (0)

SecondLevelDataCache: 0x00000000 (0)

Explain: If you have a P4 under 2ghz, it will be automatically assumed to be 256 L2 cache onboard chip. No need to set. Else set it to 512 if you have a fast chip > 2ghz.

SystemPages: 0x00000000 (0)

Explain: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q247904 (\"http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q247904\")

PagingFiles: Unknown Data Type

Explain: SWAP File names

PhysicalAddressExtension: 0x00000000 (0)

Explain: No idea

SessionViewSize: 0x00000030 (48)
SessionPoolSize: 0x00000004 (4)

Explain: No idea what these last two do?

IoPageLockLimit: 0x00010000 (65536)

Explain: (NT) This setting determines the number of bytes that can be locked for I/O functions. Increasing the value from the default (512) can have a big boost on the performance on machines with a large amount of disk I/O.
http://www.winguides.com/registry/display.php/55/ (\"http://www.winguides.com/registry/display.php/55/\")


Nothing works...still doesnt recognize I have 487776 bytes free = 26% free+/-

[Mark UK]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Haydn:
Mark,

You need to open up Task Manager to see what is eating up your memory. You can\'t load any instruments because you\'re out of physical memory. Open up the Task Manager by using the Ctrl-Shift-Esc keys. Then click on the processes tab. This will show all of the processes running on your machine and how much CPU and memory usage. Find the process(es) using the large amount of memory. It looks like you have a memory leak. My system I\'m typing this on is a Windows XP system with 192 MB of RAM. I have 24 MB of free physical memory and I\'m running a half dozen apps including Outlook, Internet Explorer and a couple other Microsoft pigs.

[This message has been edited by Haydn (edited 04-16-2002).]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Haydn

This is certainly a helpful suggestion. I will take a look at this later when I finish work.

Thanks!

PS. Thanks to Pat and Composer too for your help!

[PatS]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by composer22:
Good for processes...but I need a way to figure out memory pooling allocations
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually, it\'s good for watching processes and their handles in real-time. Launch it before loading the instruments in question. Highlight the GigaStudio process in the upper window, load the instruments, then pay attention to the handles displayed in the lower window. Take note of what happens just prior to the Error Code message.

Pat

[composer22]

Try also the LT versions of your patches. Get rid of these other background tasks
IE
Firewall
Antivirus, especially

I believe giga has its own caching architecture based on other threads. It could be allocating it as such.

I am a bit confused by what I have been reading lately on files and instrument memory allocation. My understanding was that giga came in two flavours of file load requirements 64 mb and 32 mb version - (full vs light). It might be a lie and it could be based on SAMPLES in your giga file e.g. each sample consuming 32 to 64 mb of memory

error code 1004? never got...Always got error code 5

When you loaded in your whopper, what did the percent memory free indicate before the trombone load?

113 mb FREE may be at the cusp for the trmbone instrument in question. How much memory does it consume on its own?

I smell a HACK by the Giga SE\'s!!

[PatS]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mark UK:

When I load the entire French Horn instrument (5mb in size), the available memory drops from 396mb of available physical ram down to 113mb (using a whopping 183mb)
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Did you mean a whopping 283MBs of RAM? If so, that would imply that the entire French Horn instrument (500MB in size, instead of 5MB?) comprises over 1,300 stereo samples (or 2,600 mono samples). Wow!

From the Nemesysmusic FAQ:

32 Megs RAM - 216mono\\108 stereo
64 Megs RAM - 500 mono\\250 stereo
128 Megs RAM - 1200 mono\\600 stereo
256 Megs RAM - 2500 mono\\1250 stereo
And so on.

Pat


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[composer22]

1,300 stereo samples (or 2,600 mono samples). Wow!

Yeah Ill say...cant believe it though. I will try this when I get home

try the light version of the same patch/instrment

Im so tempted to go head to head against giga and write my own sampler =(

[Mark UK]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PatS:
Did you mean a whopping 283MBs of RAM? If so, that would imply that the entire French Horn instrument (500MB in size, instead of 5MB?) comprises over 1,300 stereo samples (or 2,600 mono samples). Wow!

From the Nemesysmusic FAQ:

32 Megs RAM - 216mono\\108 stereo
64 Megs RAM - 500 mono\\250 stereo
128 Megs RAM - 1200 mono\\600 stereo
256 Megs RAM - 2500 mono\\1250 stereo
And so on.

Pat


[This message has been edited by PatS (edited 04-17-2002).]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sorry... yes, I meant 500MB

[composer22]

MarkUK

Id be curious how your performance settings are set up.

I am not at my PC right now so I can\'t find teh option...in XP, you can choose between Programs vs Background Tasks. Can you tell me what yours is set at?

Did you follow ALL the optimization tricks with the TASCAM optimization guide, a few, or none at all? How did you tweak your system for Giga?

Thanks

C22

P.S. I have requested to get an SDK from Tascam e.g. be apart of 3rd party dev. I want to write a util that will scan your hard drives and report back vital stats about teh gig files including sample counts and estimated memory constraints etc blabla... They have to send me a NDAgreement



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[Mark UK]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by composer22:
MarkUK

Id be curious how your performance settings are set up.

I am not at my PC right now so I can\'t find teh option...in XP, you can choose between Programs vs Background Tasks. Can you tell me what yours is set at?

Did you follow ALL the optimization tricks with the TASCAM optimization guide, a few, or none at all? How did you tweak your system for Giga?

Thanks

C22

P.S. I have requested to get an SDK from Tascam e.g. be apart of 3rd party dev. I want to write a util that will scan your hard drives and report back vital stats about teh gig files including sample counts and estimated memory constraints etc blabla... They have to send me a NDAgreement

[This message has been edited by composer22 (edited 04-17-2002).]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It\'s set for best performance in the performance settings...

[Mark UK]

it is set to

\"Adjust for best performance of programs\" in both processor scheduling and memory usage

[composer22]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mark UK:
it is set to

\"Adjust for best performance of programs\" in both processor scheduling and memory usage<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks mark...the first was out of line with TASCAM performance specs...but it MAY be correct, so I will test it when I get home.

Those are the defaut settings. Did you do *anything* to optimize your system? Or are you running your XP system without making any modifications to your setup (outside of the IOPageLockLimit parm in CacheMan. Did you, for instance, disable recovery or mess with the display settings at all?

[composer22]

So PATS, what do I look for in the hAndle display on the ProcessExplorer? it doesnt seem to give me anything useful

[Haydn]

My biggest criticism of the Dan Dean library is that the full patches are just memory hogs. I use the lite versions almost exclusively because of memory issues. The full patches sound better and have more velocity layers but they just take too much memory. I think the brass gives you a 2nd lite version with all the layers but the samples are in 3rds.

Definitely unload all firewall, virus and internet software when doing music. My system even has all unessential devices disabled for music. Also, I don\'t use any of the fancy graphics in XP. It\'s amazing how much faster my machine runs without all that garbage.

My system is setup as a dual boot system with one OS setup just for music, no other apps installed. This makes the system much easier to troubleshoot.

Are you loading the full trombone gig including all articulations? If so, I think that it is reporting the memory correctly. You need 2 GB at least to use the Dan Dean libraries to their fullest.

[Haydn]

Composer22,

You mentioned that the system still showed you had 400 MB free. Was that physical memory or virtual memory? Giga will only load samples into physical memory.

[composer22]

I keep telling everyone its physical memory that is not being reported correctly. Im absolutely sure of this

DDean -- Its clear. I use only selective patches from each library. Usually becomes around 3-5% per instrument (flute ob etc). I *only* use light versions here for sketcing a chamber orchestra. Again, I\'ll say it, full patches I use when I MIX DOWN sections one at a time so I load them in groups and have enough memory to cover (groups = WW, Brass, Percussion etc etc)

There is really something strange going on here. I believe the problems only exist w/ user having over 1 GIG of ram. I DONT believe there is a difference between XP and XP Pro...but you never know...

You know what...I think these nemesys folks put in an algorithm to limit the amount of memory you can use in gigastudio...to force you to buy additional site licenses...


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[composer22]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PatS:
Actually, it\'s good for watching processes and their handles in real-time. Launch it before loading the instruments in question. Highlight the GigaStudio process in the upper window, load the instruments, then pay attention to the handles displayed in the lower window. Take note of what happens just prior to the Error Code message.

Pat<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I\'ll see what it does although my ERROR 0\'s are random and dont always happen. ERROR 5\'s are usually if I load in a gig after reaching 92% free. Again, I can drag and drop the instruments and load the whole file, but if i try and load the whole file at once - boom

Im not sure what I am looking for though? Doe it give specific API calls? This isn\'t a debugger per se...so although I may be calling a DLL or other library, it may not be telling me what it is trying to do on crash? MFC32.DLL etc

Again its a question of why is giga NOT recognising I have 400 mb free? I am a sad bugger...

As in my other posts

I really would like to know what these do:
PhysicalAddressExtension: 0x00000000 (0)
SessionViewSize: 0x00000030 (48)
SessionPoolSize: 0x00000004 (4)

And, this may be maxed. I dont know if I can set it higher than 64mb limit...

IoPageLockLimit: 0x00010000 (65536)

I think after this I will go and get my MCSE...

[PatS]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by composer22:
So PATS, what do I look for in the hAndle display on the ProcessExplorer? it doesnt seem to give me anything useful <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Typically, I watch for real-time changes, which Process Explorer conveniently highlights in color (new handles=green; terminated handles=red). If you don\'t see any of this, then you shouldn\'t waste anymore of your time using the program. At the very least, try the System Monitor in the Performance tool. Moreover, with the System Monitor running, launch other programs to see if you can \"consume\" some or all of the free RAM that XP reports but GigaStudio ignores.

Frankly, I think something is amiss with GigaStudio, but I guess you\'ll have to wait and see what Tascam discovers, if anything. In the meantime, you may want to experiment with other 3rd-party memory managers, such as those listed at softlandmark (\"http://www.softlandmark.com/Memory.htm\").

Pat

P.S. If you\'re feeling dangerous, add the /3GB switch to the end of the default boot line in your boot.ini file. It forces kernel-mode processes to use no more than 1GB of virtual address space instead of up to 2GBs, consequently allowing user-mode processes to access up to 3GBs of virtual address space. This switch may fool GigaStudio into \"thinking\" it has more memory to use. I\'m not sure the switch is available to XP Home (it\'s normally used on servers that have a lot of physical memory), but if you like to experiment, give it a shot.

[Mark UK]

I took a look at the Task Manager as I loaded a single patch from the Dan Dean French Horn (FH NV - French Horn Non Vibrato)

I start with 396mb of physical memory available after taking out the memory being used with internet explorer, gigastudio, and norton firewall and antivirus running in the background ....

As soon as I load the Non vibrato French Horn patch it decreased to 311mb (therefore 85mb of ram being used for this Non vibrato patch of the French Horn instrument)

When I load the entire French Horn instrument (5mb in size), the available memory drops from 396mb of available physical ram down to 113mb (using a whopping 183mb)

If I then try to load the trombone instrument I get an error code 1004: Not enough memory .... free up the necessary memory...

Is this really right?!

[This message has been edited by Mark UK (edited 04-17-2002).]

[composer22]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PatS:
...At the very least, try the System Monitor in the Performance tool. Moreover, with the System Monitor running, launch other programs to see if you can \"consume\" some or all of the free RAM that XP reports but GigaStudio ignores.....
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Thats was a fun idea to try. I gave it a go. But I didnt have any large apps that could eat enough of the 400 mb remaining to make a difference.

I tried MEMORY OPTIMIZER after running giga and loading the file. I was able to recover around 200 MB of memory which gave me a whopping 600 meg recovered. Yest, when I tried to load another file in Giga @ 92%, it gave me the old ERROR 5 not enuf memory error again. I am convinced its a giga problem now...

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PatS:
...If you\'re feeling dangerous, add the /3GB switch to the end of the default boot line in your boot.ini file.
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Extremely dangerous...Im game and tried it.

Memory used by the OS dropped down from 200MB to 122MB...then all hell broke loose as I loaded gigasampler and then my wonderful performance file. Everytime I loaded a patch from this stream, I would get ERROR 0\'s. I should point out that berfore, I would average only one ERROR 0 per load of this file...and sometimes it would load AOK.

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