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raz.bari.88
03-18-2008, 11:05 AM
Well, today's the day that Vista Service Pack is supposed to hit. So far, it hasn't shown up in Windows update, but there's still 15 hours left in the day. Is anyone going to attempt Vista now, stick to the good old XP, or just use a Mac?

JonFairhurst
03-18-2008, 11:43 AM
Here's an interesting take on Vista SP1:
http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/03/17/clean_yourself_with_vista_sp1_toilet_paper/

http://images.tomshardware.com/2008/03/17/clean_yourself_with_vista_sp1_toilet_paper/toiletpaper_450.jpg

Styxx
03-18-2008, 12:15 PM
I hope the h e double hockey sticks this does not screw up anything on vista as it is. When XP pro update to SP2, there were issues and one in particular was screwing up firewire connections. It rendered my audio/midi firewire interface useless AND somehow erased any restore points before the download. I was going to restore to SP1 but no way now! :mad:
Hope you have better luck than I did. This is exactly why I am using Mac at the main studio.

Tony Monaghan
03-18-2008, 01:01 PM
I will NEVER make the move to Vista. Tried it out on a test PC, never seen such a pile of...

Craig F
03-18-2008, 01:14 PM
I have to agree with Tony. Such a long wait for such a big disappointment.

Tony Monaghan
03-18-2008, 01:33 PM
Well, here it is if you're brave enough;

Vista SP1 (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=b0c7136d-5ebb-413b-89c9-cb3d06d12674&DisplayLang=en)

I would read this first though.

Microsoft has released the long-awaited first Windows Vista Service Pack, a wrap-up of incremental updates that apparently cripples certain vendors' software.
SP1 tackles reliability and performance, adds support for new hardware and wraps in earlier updates for compatibility with third party software. Microsoft claims more than 2,000 applications are now "certified for" or "work with" Windows Vista.

The only problem? A number of security products won't start up or run on updated desktops thanks to "compatibility problems". Among those affected are BitDefender AV or Internet Security, Fujitsu Shock Sensor and Zone Alarm Security Suite. Meanwhile, other products will experience "loss of functionality" once you've installed SP1, Microsoft said.
Microsoft has also introduced a number of security changes to Windows Vista, including updates to BitLocker drive encryption. And SP1 is "aligned" with Windows Server 2008, the two operating systems sharing common files in Internet Information Services and concurrent user support.
The first Windows Vista SP has long been seen by some analysts, at least, as the catalyst for broad uptake of the operating system among businesses.

efiebke
03-18-2008, 03:45 PM
On the PC side. . . I actually can't upgrade to Vista because, 1) I have an old Dell Workstation that probably doesn't have one hardware on it that's Vista compatible and, 2) I don't plan on purchasing a new PC anytime soon.

On the Mac side. . . I won't upgrade to Leopard because, 1) there still seems to be significant issues between Leopard and Logic and third party plug-ins, 2) possible issues between firewire ports and Leopard and 3) has issues with Apple's Core Audio (it ain't working correctly, from what I've read).

So. . . on the PC side, I'm staying with XP Pro SP2 (I "fixed" the problem associated with SP2 and firewire port as suggested by Microsoft). On the Mac side, I'm staying with Tiger which plays relatively well with Logic and plug-ins.

Bottom line wish for me. . . I wish for an operating system that is highly reliable for the computer-based composer/musician/sequencer that's compatible with today's audio/video software and plug-ins.

I guess a wish is just a wish. . . . :o

schneb
03-18-2008, 03:58 PM
On the Mac side. . . I won't upgrade to Leopard because, 1) there still seems to be significant issues between Leopard and Logic and third party plug-ins, 2) possible issues between firewire ports and Leopard and 3) has issues with Apple's Core Audio (it ain't working correctly, from what I've read).

That's smart. However, there have been significant updates that may have cured many of these issues. But if Tiger is working for you now, stick with it! Check with Apple Discussions and see if the problems you have noted still remain.

raz.bari.88
03-20-2008, 08:59 PM
Well, so far it's been a couple days with SP1. I had the "driver issue" that blocked SP1 from showing up in Windows Update, but I was brave/stupid enough to download it directly from Microsoft.

It does seem a bit more stable, memory usage is down, UAC isn't as nagging as it used to be, and I didn't have that problem with my soundcard driver (that's what was blocking it). All I'm using is Finale/Sibelius + JABB/CAMB/GPO, so I can't say about synth drivers and controller driver issues.

Really though, this ain't no XP SP2, and I didn't expect it to be, it's just a bunch of small updates.

Johannes
03-21-2008, 06:59 AM
Works fine here: HP notebook 2,4 Ghz, 4 gig ram, Vista 64 business, samplitude pro 10.02, Kontakt 3: Faster, shorter asio buffers on saffire le firewire interface...

Best,

Johannes

Styxx
03-21-2008, 08:56 AM
Works fine here: HP notebook 2,4 Ghz, 4 gig ram, Vista 64 business, samplitude pro 10.02, Kontakt 3: Faster, shorter asio buffers on saffire le firewire interface...

Best,

JohannesSamplitude V10.02 Pro, eh? I've been working with SE V9 for about a week now (on and off) and already feel the need to upgrade. They tell me that midi editing is more complete, is this true?

Olivier
03-21-2008, 11:02 AM
Hi,

On my new computer, i've installed Vista X64 bits Sp1.

All work fine, and i will never go back to Xp.

With my unofficial WaveRT driver for my X-FI Elite pro, i can reach 1 ms in Sonar at 24/48KHZ

Rock solid.

i've even tried new Realtek drivers1.89 for my new ALC890 (new version of the ALC889A) codec (the best of realtek)
work like a charm in WaveRT with Sonar 7.

Incredible for a onboard audio soluce. So i stil luse the X-Fi and my Echo-audio card in another PC.


All my PC components are Vista Prenium. All drivers are good : so better than XP

I love Vista 64 Sp1.

Now, you have all drivers for Vista X64 for serious PC and components and audiocard.

Much better, than the Xp 64.



:)

fred Holmes
03-21-2008, 04:14 PM
Now running Vista Home Premium SP1 with Sonar 7.02 PE, Kontakt 2.nn and ALL the Garritan libraries OK.

Dell inspiron 1721 notebook 2 gig ram 250 gig HD plus 160 gig usb sample drive

No Problems so far - Did speed up copy/move files - haven't noticed any other major improvements or hangups.

Fred