Several Sample Library forums?

[SCARBEE]

Hi,

I wonder if it was an idea with different sample library forums, like \"Orchestral Libraries\" and \"non-orchestral libraries\"?

So that it is easier to find what you are looking for, without having to go through several pages to find a thread about guitar libraries, pop brass, drums - or bass... http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/wink.gif

As it is now the Giga platform is mainly a Orchestral/film-composer platform, but in order for this great format to survive it is important that we also appeal to the \"rhythmic scene\" as it is a far larger group worldwide. And this way it might be easier to attract new users.

What do you think?

cheers

Scarbee

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[KingIdiot]

scarbee you keep making kick *** libraries and they will come http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/smile.gif

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[SCARBEE]

Thanks KingIdiot,

I take this forum very serious and so are the other developers. But in a sense, this forum could also dis-courage one to continue making non-orchestral libraries as it seems that a great majority of the posters are mostly into orch. stuff.

I sometimes consider to sample classical instruments in the future, but in a way it would be a pity, since there are som many great developers out there doing this already.

I hate the thought that the giga-platform perhaps isn\'t \"my format\" - meaning a format for rock, jazz, funk. r&b, etc. http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/shocked.gif

Scarbee

[David Abraham]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SCARBEE:
- meaning a format for rock, jazz, funk. r&b, etc.
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That\'s me as well, but I really don\'t think Giga is about that. I only keep up to date on Giga technology because I want to try my hand at orchestral scoring when the right project(s) come along.

-david abraham

[zquarles]

I wouldn\'t mind having the sample library forum split up into genres...it would make getting around a bit easier.

[Chadwick]

I like having eveything in one place.

Worry when your topic scrolls off the page in under a couple of days - that\'s when something has to change.

[Munsie]

Hi Scarbee,

You are 100% correct about THIS forum. Lot\'s of high end guys here doing commercials, scores, etc. Not really the place to sell some kick *** bass libraries is it. (Or your new rock guitar library coming out soon..right??) I posted a message asking for some replies on Nick\'s strat here, and it looks like only 1 or 2 guys here purchased it. Weird.. Looks like the official Tascam site gets more of the rookie crowd, and the general midi dude just starting out who wants to put together some jams. Your efforts in forum support would probably be more worth while over there. But man, is their board a mess. They REALLY need to add some more forum categories over there. I think it\'s fairly obvious what gets composers exicted on THIS site; strings, brass and vocal libraries. http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/smile.gif I\'ll bet you Scarbee BRass would turn a few heads here. http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/smile.gif)

[Bardstown Audio]

Considering that computer based software samplers are making hardware samplers more obsolete everyday, not only for classical music, but for all other music styles as well, it makes sense to me that all musicians who are into computers and music would be extremely interested in this particular newsgroup forum. I would suggest that we all take the opportunity to invite people from other newsgroup forums to visit www.northernsounds.com (\"http://www.northernsounds.com\")

It is my routine to visit several different newsgroup forums everyday. If anyone from this group would start a new thread on any other newsgroup forum, in order to invite people over to Northern Sounds, I will gladly chime in on that thread and extend the invitation as well. It would be much more appropriate for someone who is not a sound developer, such as Scarbee or myself, to start new threads on these other newsgroups, in order to extend the invitation to Northern Sounds. I very much encourage all of you to invite people from other newsgroup forums and notify Scarbee and myself by email, so that we may jump in on that thread on the other newsgroup forum, in order to further extend the invitation to www.northernsounds.com (\"http://www.northernsounds.com\")

There are many classical musicians, in addition to rock, jazz, etc., who frequent many other newsgroup forums and are not familiar with Northern Sounds. Many of these musicians are using Giga, HALion, EXS24, etc., but have no idea as to what a wonderful source of information that we have on this forum.

Some other newsgroup forums to check out and extend invitations to visit Northern Sounds, are...

the Keyboard Forum at www.musicplayer.com (\"http://www.musicplayer.com\")
the VST Instruments forum at www.steinberg.net (\"http://www.steinberg.net\")
the Sonar newsgroup forum at www.cakewalk.com (\"http://www.cakewalk.com\") www.recording.org (\"http://www.recording.org\") www.prorec.com (\"http://www.prorec.com\")
Forums at http://www.sospubs.co.uk/ (\"http://www.sospubs.co.uk/\")


I am sure that Scarbee plus many of you could add to this list of other newsgroup forums as well, in order to extend even more invitations.

Kip
Bardstown Audio
www.bardstownaudio.com (\"http://www.bardstownaudio.com\")



[This message has been edited by Bardstown Audio (edited 03-02-2002).]

[KingIdiot]

Scarbee, what will end up hapenning is that the other forums would jsut end up empty or not used \"correctly\". Most would hang out in a forum section like this. In fact it may be worse since people would ask in these forums, and may go unnoticed since its not the main focus of some people who are actually knoledgable with the gigaplatform.

There are many Orchestral buffs here, yes. that is not to say that questions from people for other genres would go unoticed or worse unanswered.

You dont have the \"wrong\" platform if you can do the best you can with what you do. Other platforms have a userbase that is more in the \"electronic\" realm, with Kontakt looking to make a splash in that area as well. Giga is still the one people consider best for \"acoustic instruments\". Whether it is or not can be debated, but when you speak to people who may not even know much about software sampling this is the general (mis?)conception.

anywho....blah blah blah....dont stress about it. Maybe you should do some posts about different styles of music and bands and such. Start up discusions on other types of libraries.

Also ALL DEVELOPERS must keep in mind that we here that actually do post often are a small minority of the actual users and gigaMusicians. If you guys put out stuff that is usable there is no doubt that we will want it or buy it. I couldn\'t believe the whole \"sax isn\'t that desirable\" stuff that was going on a few months ago about why no one is doing a sax library. If tahts so then why the hell do I have 5 different brass libraries and even rented a sax to fool around with my own samples? Where the hell is a Good Shakuhatchi sample? Why was Munsie always asking about Guitar Samples, and still go unfulfilled? What about constant drum library talking going on? Stop focusing on the so called hype and controversy we all put out for orchestral libraries and realise that we are a small group of people that too many people focus on. Stop ignoring the fact that there are discusions that, while not 100 post discussions, are important.

also dont forget I\'m a moron and to laugh when I go on stupid diatribes like this!

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[Munsie]

>Why was Munsie always asking about Guitar Samples, and still go unfulfilled?

Hi King!

I\'ve been busy \"working\" instead of making music. Man, I forgot my wife and kids have to eat. http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/smile.gif Anyway, while the sampled guitar libraries sound better than ever, they obviously lack in realism. BUT my problems may be over! I just made contact with a kick *** 17 year old guitar player, actually he heard me jamming on my acoustic drum kit and wanted to \"join my band\". LOL! To make a long story short, he\'s going to do some tracks for me. That should be enough to allow me to \"finish\" my songs. If it\'s even possible to \"finish\" them. http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/smile.gif

[KingIdiot]

Good to hear Munz, elt us know when you have some stuff to show off. I\'ll be glad to listen and even comment if you\'d like

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[SCARBEE]

Hey Munsie,

The Guitar lib will ot be out before early next year I think, cos the new Aura Fretless will be HUGE...

Yeah - real musicians are cool´an dif they are nice and funny it\'s even better. Hard to make a library that talks - but hey... maybe that\'s the next thing! http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/wink.gif

Thomas

[SCARBEE]

Hi Kip,

I think you are right and it is a good idea to try to get people to this forum. I have tried to make TASCAM link to this forum, but without any luck so far. They should, cos we need to keep this community strong.

The Gigaplatform is new and many people doesn\'t know about it all over the world. I think it is the best sample platform for realistic instruments and actually I think it is easy to work with. I used to program AKAI\' and EMU 4 and it wasn\'t really cool with SO many samples.

Still I think it is a problem that the threads dissappear so quickly now. The orchestral guys are very frequent posters so they could easily fill up a forum themselves. Don\'t get me wrong - I read many of these post myself and love them, but there is just too many now, in my opinion. I myself don\'t like to change pages very often. Then I\'ll just leave the forum if nothing interesting is going on at page 1. If others act the same way we have a problem...

PS. Kip - you work hard, man! Nice you have joined the forum! Like your stuff too.

[Bardstown Audio]

Hi Scarbee,

I like your bass libraries as well!

I agree, Giga Sampler/Studio is the greatest sampling platform available. Giga Sampler/Studio is growing from month to month, and it is becoming more dominate all of the time in many parts of the world.

It is surprising the number of Giga users who are not familiar with this forum. I just posted a reply to someone on the keyboard forum of www.musicplayer.com (\"http://www.musicplayer.com\") who was looking for technical assistance for Giga Studio on his upgraded PC, so I took the opportunity to invite him over to Northern Sounds.

I tend to think that if enough of us would post on these other forums in a similar manner, we could really attract a great number of new people to this forum in a very short period of time.

Just for fun, let\'s band together and make a concentrated effort by posting on these other newsgroup forums and see how many new people we can attract to Northern Sounds!

Kip
Bardstown Audio
www.bardstownaudio.com (\"http://www.bardstownaudio.com\")

[Chadwick]

OK

Started threads at:

ProRec
SOS
Cubase - Halion/VST plugins http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/wink.gif
Music Player (keyboard corner)
recording.org (ProTalk>Musicican>keyboards&midi)

[Chadwick]

doubled up somehow

[This message has been edited by Chadwick (edited 03-02-2002).]

[Bardstown Audio]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Chadwick:
OK

Started threads at:

ProRec
SOS
Cubase - Halion/VST plugins http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/wink.gif
Music Player (keyboard corner)
recording.org (ProTalk>Musicican>keyboards&midi)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks Chadwick!

I have replied to all of your threads on those forums.

Kip

[thesoundsmith]

I have to admit between Northernsounds, Tascam, the Hamtech list, the Nemesys forum on Yahoo, Scarbee\'s group, Mackie d8b, Mackie hdr, MOTU, two more Mackies on Yahoo, I\'m about forumed out! I don\'t have time to get any music done just reading the groups!

But after a while, I know who I can safely ignore on these forums, because we\'re talking about different subjects. (I ALWAYS read King, and Maarten, and the developer posts, but other than that the topic header has to grab me.

I think what we need are ways to cross-reference topical interests that are threaded into the body of the posts (keyword links.) This is possible to develop in the board software (I had a friend create a system that did this twenty years ago,) but none of the software for the boards I see have attempted to do it.

Still, I vote for one \'Sample libraries\' forum-many of the \'orchestral\' samples work just fine for pop and jazz, and more importantly, the film crowd can use almost any kind of high-quality sample-sax may not appeal to the classical group, but hundreds of movie orchestral scores use it as a lead, emotive instrument.

(I knowm, all I can think of is sax, sax, sax!)

Dasher

[KingIdiot]

Jsut bounce the topics up guys.

If there are people interested in talking I\'m sure they will respond. I think this is the problem tho, as you said there aren\'t enough people on this forum interested in these types of music. I am. I dont own a bunch of the sample CDs tho, since I play most of the instruemnts....except the drums,...which is why you see me in drum threads even tho I dont need anymore drum CDs http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/wink.gif

You guys need to \"talk\" about the stuff too, not just promote your libraries. http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/wink.gif and I mean really talk about the musicians bands...styles..whats missing from current libraries, whats too difficult to reproduce with samples and what might help in terms of sampling.

thats all the stuff that keeps the orchestral threads going. Lots of stuff like that. Not to mention DEMOS. Get people together to show off what they are doing and ASK FOR OPINIONS ON HOW TO MAKE IT SOUND BETTER! It stirs up discussion on how to make better samples....and to the developers who listen, this I\'m sure helps out!

What I\'m trying to say is, yes I hear demos from you develoeprs showing off your libraries. Scarbee the Bass stuff is amazing, but howabout trying some guitar stuff with current libraries you have that you know wont achieve the sound you\'re looking for, and ask for opinions on what you think is missing and could help. It might give you ideas for your new guitar library....or stir discussion of new techniques in sampling.

I\'ll privately talk to you about my ideas, mostly because I knwo you\'re doing a strat library and I want to do an Ibanez 7-string library. Also because I think you\'re a kick *** developer. This doesn\'t help much in the realm of the forum discussion tho...

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