transfer Steinway to new computer question

[ab53]

I have the Steinway on my computer. BUT this weekend I am getting a new processor, motherboard and operating system hard drive.
How do I go about transferring Steinway to the new computer?

THANKS.

[Garritan]

I have the Steinway on my computer. BUT this weekend I am getting a new processor, motherboard and operating system hard drive.
How do I go about transferring Steinway to the new computer?

THANKS.ab53,

You get four installs so just install on the new computer and register online. That's all there is to it.

Best,

Gary

[ab53]

You are one awesome guy. Talk about a lightning fast response. Must be that clean living on Orcas Island.

I LOVE THE STEINWAY!!!!!

Thanks,
Alan

[Ranger]

not that I have a problem but after 4 installs I'll own an expensive coaster maybe I would prefer a dongle, any further purchases will not include this kind of protection, for the same reason I'm eliminating NI's products from my system (a least with them you can change a piece of hardware and start over again) Also GARY please include this Information on your Steinway page for future clients

(Graceful Copy Protection (no dongles or challenge response) and ONLY 4 INSTALLS ALLOWED)

[halvor]

not that I have a problem but after 4 installs I'll own an expensive coaster maybe I would prefer a dongle, any further purchases will not include this kind of protection, for the same reason I'm eliminating NI's products from my system (a least with them you can change a piece of hardware and start over again) Also GARY please include this Information on your Steinway page for future clients

(Graceful Copy Protection (no dongles or challenge response) and ONLY 4 INSTALLS ALLOWED)

I'm very pleased with the sound of the Steinway which I just bought and installed, but I have to say I have always disliked the copy-protection schemes used by the software industry, especially the ones that makes restrictions on the number of installations and hardware configuration. This is really limiting my right to use the computer the way I want. I want to be able to experiment with different hardware-configurations,try a different OS on my computer (with the obvious risk of deleting my windows partition) without being afraid of somehow be forced to do a complete reinstall of my programs and that way using up my precious "activations" when I actually have paid hundreds of Euros for the software. I have problems understanding how such limitations in the first place could be legally forced upon the consumers...

Of the DRM-solutions out there, the one I dislike least is the dongle.

[Haydn]

The only library I've had problems with copy protection is the VSL stuff using a dongle. Their forum daily has other users who's licenses have just disappeared from the dongle. So I refuse to purchase any more libraries with a dongle. I've never had problems with NI licenses in the many years I've used them or other libraries using challenge-response.

I think 4 installs in plenty as most other libraries only allow 2 installs. GigaStudio only allowed 1 install and then you had to buy another license for another computer. So I think the ARIA licensing is the best out there now with the least amount of hassle.

Jim

[Ranger]

Haydn I presently have 3 dongles for the past 8 years never a problem my point is I spend $400.00 and after 4 installs I have to spend again not right Pirates have no problems only the consumers have to go throught this with so much put into the product and protecting The companies investments don't you think that the consumer, which by the way, is where the money comes from, has the right to use a product without a Black Cloud looming (I have had problems with NI enough that I will not purchase anything else from them. In conclusion if you believe its fair why dont you post this info on the main promo page instead of in a book after purchase. You find that I'm not the only one. By the way I love the product and but not the restrictions

How about this for an option at a fraction of the cost offer additional license to registered owners only (to me this is fair)

[Haydn]

You've been lucky with your dongles. I've had mine go out 3 times in the last 4 months. After reseating and rebooting the computer, it started working again. I've tried it in a couple USB ports. This seems to be a pretty common problem others are having.

Why do you need that many installs? I'm not sure how picky the ARIA player is when you change hardware as I haven't updated my systems since installing it. If you have odd situations requiring large amounts of installs, then you should contact Gary Garritan.

Jim

[Ranger]

I'm on the moon with this nonsense explain to me your issue with ILOk works doesn't work,
again $400.. dollars its not a hot dog

[halvor]

Why do you need that many installs? I'm not sure how picky the ARIA player is when you change hardware as I haven't updated my systems since installing it. If you have odd situations requiring large amounts of installs, then you should contact Gary Garritan.

Jim

Here is my resent example;

Under a year ago I installed GPO and registered it. That was my first registration. A few months ago my windowsXP refused to boot so I had to reinstall everything and consequently installed GPO for the second time. That was my second registration. After a while I felt it was time to buy a new computer which I did. So I installed GPO a third time. Now, an installation of another operating system on the same computer rendered my new Windows-Vista installation unbootable, which easily could have resulted in a complete reinstall of Windows. Luckily I had a backup of the old Windows bootloader, so I didn't have to, but a reinstall would nevertheless have resulted in yet another registration.

Vista turned out to quite unstable and immature. Gigastudio doesn't work properly and Ewql So Gold demanded a new activation just a few minutes after registering (that would be my fourth reg.). All in all I'm now actually considering to wipe out Vista and install Windows XP once again because of all the problems. But that would require a fourth registration of GPO (so I have to see if I'm going to do it). In the foreseeable future I will probably convert my operating system to 64-bit, when Vista have matured a somewhat and 64-bit is more mainstream. Again, that would require a fifth registration.


At the time of writing a have not yet registered my Steinway and I'm glad I haven't, because it makes it possible to test the installation for 30 days and sort out possible problems that may occur without having to go through a second registration instantly.

[Ranger]

made an edit on my last post sorry for the burst its a bad topic for me I've been with computers since the Timex sinclair days so all these protection schemes I find at best effect only the clients and for this reason gets under my skin. HALVOR I understand where your going with this and for this Gary should have some kind of solution for these kinds of situations

[Haydn]

Windows XP shouldn't just die unless you have hardware issues, spyware or virus issues. I don't use my music machine as an internet machines which gets rid of the spyware and virus issues. Most of the Windows XP repair options should fix the issues without having to do a complete reinstall unless you have a hard drive that's crapped out.

I have multiple partitions on my system so I can dual boot and test new operating systems. This can be a little tricky to do without doing some studying on how the different OS's work with each other. I actually use Windows XP both 32 bit and 64 bit versions on my music machine setup as a dual boot config. My day to day machine is actually a triple boot with 2 versions of Windows XP and another using Vista. I have the Garritan KP2 libraries and ARIA player installed on both partitions on my music machine. It appears that the NI Service Center is not as troublesome when you need to do a reinstall.

I would contact Gary Garritan regarding your concerns. At this point you still have 4 installs on the Steinway so go ahead and authorize it.

Jim

[halvor]

Windows XP shouldn't just die unless you have hardware issues, spyware or virus issues. I don't use my music machine as an internet machines which gets rid of the spyware and virus issues. Most of the Windows XP repair options should fix the issues without having to do a complete reinstall unless you have a hard drive that's crapped out.

Jim

Actually it was my harddrive that broke down and not WinXP, but generally speaking I'm not the kind of guy who is klicking on every spam-attachment or is downloading pirated software and troyans and for the net i mostly use Linux. I have been using computers for 15-20 years now and I think the reasons why an OS would "die" are almost limitless and certainly not just related to spyware/virus issues.

At this moment I do not have any particular trouble using my music-software because of DRM. I would only explain what I believe can be a quite common scenario regarding the limited number of registrations.

But I like to say this; The use of DRM, and particularly the use of NI-related products have had a direct impact on the way I use my computer in general. I'm now very careful about experimenting with my system because I'm afraid of somehow breaking something when I have so much expensive software with restrictions installed on my system. So I think I now have less fun using my computer in general than before.
Luckily I still have Linux to play with, though.

Well, this is enough from me.:)

[michael88s]

Ranger and halvor,

What about having an external backup hard drive and creating a disk image right after the registration- wouldn't that safeguard your registration if everything went south?

[ab53]

What program would be good for copying an entire C drive including a registrations, XP, etc? Is there any program that does this? That makes it so the other C drive is absolutely identical in every way?

[michael88s]

ab53,

There are several programs that copy the exact contents of your boot drive including the OS, for instance XP- some are standalone, and some are utilities that come with an external hard drive. It's not enough that you just copy files from a hard drive, what you want is 'disk image' software. My external drive is a Maxtor One Touch 4 Plus, and it comes with that type of software.

Computer crashes, viruses, replacing hard drives etc, all these situations are made infinitely easier with disk imaging software HOWEVER you generally can't use the disk image on a different computer, or if you switch out the motherboard.

Hope this helps.

[Ranger]

this maybe my solution but I use a Mac I just added a pc with xp just don,t want to waste an install any advice would be appreciated

Thanks
Ranger