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Garritan
01-16-2009, 12:06 AM
GARRITAN ANNOUNCES PERSONAL ORCHESTRA 4th EDITION
Now with the ARIA Sample Player and select Project SAM Brass samples

NAMM, Anaheim, CA(January 15, 2009) — Garritan today announced a new edition of its Garritan Personal Orchestra ® product. The company announced a 4th Edition of Garritan Personal Orchestra that now contains the Garritan ARIA sample engine and adds new features, new instrument sounds, updated programming and a lower price. The new edition will be demonstrated during the show at the NAMM convention.

Garritan Personal Orchestra is an award-winning high-quality orchestral library that has become the industry standard. It has developed an enthusiastic following for its ability to create realistic sounding orchestral music quickly and easily. Garritan Personal Orchestra 4th Edition includes all the major instruments of the orchestra - strings, brass, woodwinds, percussion and keyboards – plus quality instruments such as a Steinway® grand piano, Stradivari violin (with new controllable vibrato), select Project SAM solo and section brass samples (new for this version), concert harps, celesta, concert pipe organ, and many other fine instruments. Personal Orchestra allows you to make ensembles of any size from the individual instruments, ranging from groups of a few instruments to a full symphony orchestra.

The collection comes integrated with the ARIA Player, Garritan's powerful new 64-bit Sampler/Synthesis Engine, developed in collaboration with Plogue Art et Technologie Inc. There is no need to purchase a separate sampler. The ARIA engine and Garritan soundware has been rigorously industry tested and are widely used in products by Microsoft, SONY, AKAI, MakeMusic (Finale) and other industry leaders. Garritan Personal Orchestra is Mac and PC compatible, either as a standalone program or as a plug-in (VSTi, Pro Tools RTAS, and OSX Audio Units). Registered users of previous editions of the Garritan Personal Orchestra will be able to download the new edition for only $49.

Garritan Personal Orchestra 4th Edition is programmed to work with Finale 2009, Sibelius 5, AKAI wind controllers and other popular music applications. Intuitive controls allow you to become familiar with the library quickly and master all the instruments easily. Garritan Personal Orchestra enables you to express your musical ideas with minimal effort.

Take the sounds of a symphony orchestra anywhere, anytime - in thestudio, on the beach, in a plane, or anywhere you can take your PC or Mac, your laptop or netbook computer. Whether a professional film composer who needs to produce orchestral mockups on the road or capture ideas at a moments notice on a netbook, a hobbyist who wants to create great sounding orchestral music, an educator, or composer or performer, or a student studying the art of orchestration --Garritan Personal Orchestra provides the tools to create excellent sounding orchestrations, with ease, flexibility, and at a price that won’t break the bank.

Pricing: New Suggested Retail price: $149.00 $49 downloadable upgrade for existing users

Availability: Shortly after the NAMM show, as a download

serenitymusician
01-16-2009, 12:20 AM
Gary you just made my day!!! All the frustrations I have had working with Kontakt player I certainly hope will be long gone. I hope you really enjoy your time at NAMM (wish I could be there...I am so enjoying our sub-zero weather here in Wisconsin right now...NOT!). I'll be counting down the time until NAMM is done and I can download the new GPO!

Gary

jmpaquette
01-16-2009, 12:21 AM
I'm sold!

*()Perish the thought that anyone say it out loud, but perhaps some of us will make a contribution to the Garritan site: Using the WX5 with GPO. Depends on how soon the upgrade comes out.*()

Where do I sign up?



Joe

SeanHannifin
01-16-2009, 12:57 AM
Woohoo!! )(~ Can't wait!

schneb
01-16-2009, 01:05 AM
Gary demoed it for me on a Netbook! The little thing had only 2 gigs of RAM and it was playing back 20 tracks without a hitch in its giddyap! It was quite extraordinary!

The new additional samples are the cherry on top. I would have upgraded just to get away from Native Instruments!

Gary is holding the Netbook in this photo...
http://picasaweb.google.com/schneb/NAMM#5291730761925678546

jmpaquette
01-16-2009, 01:09 AM
The new additional samples are the cherry on top. I would have upgraded just to get away from Native Instruments!

Gary is holding the Netbook in this photo...
http://picasaweb.google.com/schneb/NAMM#5291730761925678546

What he said! What he said! :)

efiebke
01-16-2009, 01:56 AM
This is FANTASTIC!! )(~

O. K. We all kind of knew that the Personal Orchestra upgrade was coming. But, it still is very nice to read! :)

As soon as it's available, I'm upgrading and down-loading. . . :D

Thanks for the good news, Mr. Gary. And I hope you continue to have fun at NAMM! :)

Ted

bosone
01-16-2009, 02:26 AM
so, apart the brass, there are also NEW samples for the violin????
what about cello?! :)

Michael_uk
01-16-2009, 03:56 AM
Hello Gary,

Congratulations Gary. This is wonderful news many of us have been waiting for. )(~)(~)(~)(~

Now, I wonder what other announcements will be made from NAMM. ;)

AlanPerkins
01-16-2009, 05:25 AM
I am just glad the press release says "shortly after NAMM" and not "imminently after NAMM" )(~

BenNichols
01-16-2009, 05:34 AM
YAY! and it has the strad in it?! that has most definitely made my day! Cheers Garritan!

yairhol
01-16-2009, 05:45 AM
Great news.
Finally I will be able to call myself an owner of the GPO.

Can't wait for the download.
*()

lintweaker
01-16-2009, 06:06 AM
Arghh, that's another $49 to my CC :). Really looking forward to it.

BTW any progress on the Linux version of the ARIA player?

Pierre Laroche
01-16-2009, 06:19 AM
Great news ! Looking forwar to buy and download it !!!

sergiobklyn
01-16-2009, 08:49 AM
Does it replace the Kontakt version? Or does it add a new library leaving the Kontakt version alone. I only ask because EWQL Synphonic Orchestra removes the NI version when one installs the PLAY version.
Thanks,
Sergio

rbowser-
01-16-2009, 09:11 AM
OH BOY OH BOY OH BOY! I'm camping out in the already-long line awaiting download day!

Randy B.

bigears
01-16-2009, 09:17 AM
Yay! This has been long and eagerly awaited. I believe the violin is not the Stradivari solo, but an improved version of the original now with more control over the vibrato. I think there will be a solo instrument when the improved Garritan Orchestral Instruments is released. At any rate, this is great news! John

swinkler
01-16-2009, 09:50 AM
Yay! This has been long and eagerly awaited. I believe the violin is not the Stradivari solo, but an improved version of the original now with more control over the vibrato. I think there will be a solo instrument when the improved Garritan Orchestral Instruments is released. At any rate, this is great news! John

I think that's exactly right. I believe it's going to be part of GOS2 which will be another exciting release. First things first though......:)


Steve Winkler

jmpaquette
01-16-2009, 09:51 AM
I am just glad the press release says "shortly after NAMM" and not "imminently after NAMM" )(~

The other announcement offers a full complement of "imminents" for sale, release date to be announced!*()

schneb
01-16-2009, 10:09 AM
Yay! This has been long and eagerly awaited. I believe the violin is not the Stradivari solo, but an improved version of the original now with more control over the vibrato. I think there will be a solo instrument when the improved Garritan Orchestral Instruments is released. At any rate, this is great news! John

That is correct. We had a solo Strad available before, but not as in to it as the Strad package. The really exciting part for me is the control over vibrato, which I have been hoping for quite a long time.

In the version I was playing with, there was a very basic Choir on it! :O I have able to hear Ooohs and Ahhs, but then ventured on to explore the coming World Instruments.

People, we will not be disappointed with the coming years products!

rbowser-
01-16-2009, 10:22 AM
"...We had a solo Strad available before, but not as in to it as the Strad package..."

um---What? hehe.

Randy B.

Larry G. Alexander
01-16-2009, 10:39 AM
My sequencing software is Sonar 8. Will it be necessary to insert separate instances of the Aria player for each instrument that I use in a composition. What's the procedure?

swinkler
01-16-2009, 10:52 AM
My sequencing software is Sonar 8. Will it be necessary to insert separate instances of the Aria player for each instrument that I use in a composition. What's the procedure?

Larry,

I've got Finale2009 that uses the Aria player. I can tell you there are 16 slots just as there are with the Kontakt player. So from that perspective it should be the same. I can also tell you the instruments load waaaaaayyyyyy faster than they do in the Kontakt player as well.

Steve Winkler

jmpaquette
01-16-2009, 11:04 AM
My sequencing software is Sonar 8. Will it be necessary to insert separate instances of the Aria player for each instrument that I use in a composition. What's the procedure?

I'm camped out between here and Garritan.com, waiting for the posting that lets us buy the update. I, too, am using SONAR 8, and will know right away how to and whatnot. My assumption is that it can have multiple instances loaded - which means sixteen channels per/times the number of instances. If you don't see your answer right away, feel free to pm me, and I'll gladly step you through it.

By the way, I'm hoping Steve's experience with Finale is what we will experience: faster loading, faster response!)(~ )(~

bmpsound
01-16-2009, 11:07 AM
Hey Gary, I'm really looking forward to hearing the updated library. I'll be a NAMM tomorrow and will see you then!

Steve

schneb
01-16-2009, 11:22 AM
"...We had a solo Strad available before, but not as in to it as the Strad package..."
um---What? hehe.

GPO - Solo Strings - Violin - Violin 2 Strad Player 1

That is a solo Strad available in GPO.

rbowser-
01-16-2009, 11:39 AM
Thanks for the reply, schneb

Yes of course, there are a number of solo Violins in GPO, including a Strad. I just wasn't sure what your sentence meant - I guess you meant that you personally didn't enjoy using the solo Strad library as much as using the family of solos in GPO, even though they aren't nearly as realistic - I think that's what you meant?

Randy

Larry G. Alexander
01-16-2009, 12:13 PM
Larry,

I've got Finale2009 that uses the Aria player. I can tell you there are 16 slots just as there are with the Kontakt player. So from that perspective it should be the same. I can also tell you the instruments load waaaaaayyyyyy faster than they do in the Kontakt player as well.

Steve Winkler

Thank you, Mr. Steve. I appreciate the info.

Regards,

schneb
01-16-2009, 12:18 PM
I just wasn't sure what your sentence meant - I guess you meant that you personally didn't enjoy using the solo Strad library as much as using the family of solos in GPO, even though they aren't nearly as realistic - I think that's what you meant?

Actually, what I meant was that we did have a Strad solo available, but with very limited control--such as the vibrato. The GPO version, for good reason, does not have the ultimate control like in the dedicated package--naturally. But the GPO2 version offers a little more control, which is very, very welcome. :)

Garritan
01-16-2009, 11:19 PM
Hi Steve,

Looking forward to seeing you. If I am not at the booth ask Jeff or one of the guys to phone me so I don't miis you.

Best,

Gary


Hey Gary, I'm really looking forward to hearing the updated library. I'll be a NAMM tomorrow and will see you then!

Steve

stevefoxon
01-17-2009, 06:20 AM
This is great news. What I would like to know, is whether this update supports the new VST Expression for Cubase 5 straight away, or does that come later with an update?

Cheers.

holderofthehorns
01-17-2009, 09:39 AM
Yay!
My mouse is ready to click on the "Buy Now" button.

jesshmusic
01-17-2009, 11:34 AM
Will this library still work in Kontakt 3 full version?

keithjfuller
01-17-2009, 03:24 PM
I can't imagine it will work in anything other than ARIA, just like libraries designed to work in Kontakt will work in nothing other than Kontakt.

indianamusic
01-17-2009, 03:32 PM
That is the reason for the Aria system - Garritan libs have their own player and they are not shackled to NI again.

swinkler
01-17-2009, 05:58 PM
I almost tried answering this question for jesshmusic, but honestly I don't know. I believe the Aria engine is going to use the sfz sample format which is on the Kontakt 3 supported format list. So I guess the question is if the samples are going to be locked to the Aria player.

But as keithjfuller pointed out that's part of the appeal of the Aria player......it's not an NI sample engine!! On the other hand if you have an investment in other sample libraries and want to use one player for all of them I can see why you'd be interested.

Steve Winkler

jesshmusic
01-17-2009, 06:03 PM
I also have the Kore 2 device and its software controller, and I really like it. Obviously to use Garritan samples, I load Kontakt 3 (which I have never had a problem with). I notice that the new library will include the new brass samples among other things. I can live with (and will) using the older library if it doesn't support NI any longer, but it would be a bummer. :P

karvasika
01-17-2009, 07:17 PM
I also have the Kore 2 device and its software controller, and I really like it. Obviously to use Garritan samples, I load Kontakt 3 (which I have never had a problem with). I notice that the new library will include the new brass samples among other things. I can live with (and will) using the older library if it doesn't support NI any longer, but it would be a bummer. :P

But doesn't Kore support 3rd party plugins anyway so you can use the new ARIA-version within Kore 2? Maybe not as integrated as Kontakt stuff, but still. And you can map all the new ARIA parameters to your Kore sound? I don't own Kore (anymore), but I think that's how it used to work? Point being, GPO changing to ARIA doesn't shut out using Kore.

karvasika
01-17-2009, 07:18 PM
Sorry, I just read the last post - I don't know what you talked about before, so if my quote-reply is a bit off-topic, forgive me... :)

rbowser-
01-18-2009, 12:35 AM
There are obviously still unanswered questions about what's going to happen when we have the new versions of Garritan Libraries that are hosted by ARIA. We haven't experienced it yet, so there are a lot of unkowns - But it IS an understandable concern wondering how this effects older projects that we may want to re-visit. I suppose we would need to keep old and new versions of the Libraries on our computers--taking up twice the space.

I think it's great that Gary has a new player which he has faith in and more control over. I just never had any problems with NI and Kontakt - found KP2 especially slick. I love opening that one shell and having all my Garritan Libraries sitting right there waiting for me. I just use it to pipe tracks into Sonar where I do the real work - so didn't need KP2's reverb and mixing capabilities. But I never had hassles with NI, things always worked - no problems.

Anyway - we all have our own perspectives based on our own experiences. I really look forward to the new GPO - and suppose that I'll just be needing to load in KP2 as well as ARIA in my projects, at least for awhile, and maybe for a long while since it's very uncertain when there will be ARIA versions of JABB and CMB.

Randy B.

gyprock
01-18-2009, 02:21 AM
How different will the announced Aria Player be in comparison with the one shipped with Acid Pro 7?

The reason I ask is that the sample project shipped with Acid Pro 7 that features the Aria player (using 8 instruments) is causing a lot of crackles and pops in playback. I don't know if this is an Acid or Aria problem. I loaded the Aria VST into Sonar 7 PE and it was worse. After a lot of stuttering it caused the audio engine to drop out. Maybe Sonar 8 fixes this.

In contrast, I can run any of the scores shipped with Sibelius 5 with no problems (easily 32 instruments or more) through the Kontakt 2 player using a combination of GPO and other samples. This indicates that my notebook/audio unit combination has plenty of bandwidth to handle this load. I have not yet attempted to use the Aria (Sony version) VST from within Sibelius.

I have a workstation grade notebook (HP 8710W) Core 2 Duo with Win XP3, 4GRAM, Nvidia Quadro 1600M (512KB) video and an ASIO based external audio unit (Edirol UA-700).

magnificent
01-18-2009, 02:21 AM
Aria version is so cool.
And so much more organized.
Less complicated than Kontact.

And new instruments loaded FAST!!


Just played with it at the Garritan booth today at NAMM.


Jon

LFO
01-18-2009, 08:47 AM
Hey Randy B,
I feel your pain! I guess it is just part of being in the software DAW world. At least hard disks are cheap!

I have so many doubles right now. Atmosphere/OmniSphere, EWQL NI , EWQL Play, etc. probably about 60 gigabytes of `redundant' samples. Ack!

-Kevin

Henry Buck
01-18-2009, 09:42 PM
Really looking forward to GOS2 and the new GPO. Can we expect any small fixes and tweaks (e.g. corrected timpani tuning), or will the solo strings and SAM brass be the only new samples?

Haydn
01-19-2009, 05:28 PM
I would recommend having both the ARIA and Kontakt versions for backwards compatibility. Although the sounds are programmed quite close to the Kontakt 2 Player version, there are bound to be some differences. There were many differences between the Kontakt 1 and Kontakt 2 versions, so I still have both of these on my drives.


The reason I ask is that the sample project shipped with Acid Pro 7 that features the Aria player (using 8 instruments) is causing a lot of crackles and pops in playback. I don't know if this is an Acid or Aria problem. I loaded the Aria VST into Sonar 7 PE and it was worse. After a lot of stuttering it caused the audio engine to drop out. Maybe Sonar 8 fixes this.


I have not tried the Sony Acid version in Sonar. I have been running both the ARIA 32 bit and 64 bit version in Sonar 6.2 without having pops or crackles. So I don't think an upgrade to Sonar 8 would fix the issue. You may need to adjust the latency buffer size. What soundcard and audio drivers are you using?

Jim

gyprock
01-19-2009, 06:09 PM
Jim,

I'm using an Edirol UA-700 (released around 2002) with ASIO driver but it only allows me to max the latency at about 20ms (not sure what this in buffer size but probably more than 1024 samples).

Alex

DaveSchuler
02-02-2009, 03:17 PM
Great. :( I just spent $199 for the 3rd edition last week. That's what I get for not reading the forum before I placed the order.

Any chance that a brand new GPO owner can upgrade without forking over another $50?

Garritan
02-02-2009, 03:21 PM
Great. :( I just spent $199 for the 3rd edition last week. That's what I get for not reading the forum before I placed the order.

Any chance that a brand new GPO owner can upgrade without forking over another $50?Sure David,

If you just purchased GPO we'll provide the upgrade since it is so close. Just email when it is out and reference this post.

Best,

Gary

DaveSchuler
02-02-2009, 03:25 PM
Couldn't ask for better than that! :)

Thanks, Gary!

Drumroll
02-02-2009, 10:32 PM
Hello to Everyone!

It's been awhile since my last post. I apologize if this question has already been addressed but my searching is not leading me to the answer. I want to purchase Finale2009 which includes Aria. Is it the full version? or should I update my Garritan software? Please let me know when you get a moment.

Thanks and a big "Hello" to all the oldies but goodies out there! I hope all is well!

~Paula

bigears
02-02-2009, 11:28 PM
Hi, The Garritan Sounds in Finale 2009 are not the complete GPO library and only a portion of the library that will be in GPO4. Here is a link to the list of sounds included in Finale 2009. There are sounds that are new if you use older versions of Finale.
http://downloads2.makemusic.com/finale/2009/Finale_GarritanSounds.pdf

Jun Yamamoto
02-03-2009, 01:56 AM
Can Aria player co-exist with KP2 on Finale 2008 or on SONAR 5? Or should I upgrade Finale and/or SONAR?

The reason why I ask is that I would like to keep Strad and Gofriller alive with the new version of GPO.

Of course, if new GPO's solo strings are better than Strad and Gofriller, there should be no problem though.

Any related information?

Sincerely,

keithjfuller
02-03-2009, 08:21 AM
They will coexist, meaning KP2 will remain as a different option.

Mooshykris
02-03-2009, 11:43 AM
Sure David,

If you just purchased GPO we'll provide the upgrade since it is so close. Just email when it is out and reference this post.

Best,

Gary

Would a month old GPO count as well?

I only got GPO a month ago, and almost right after I got it, this was announced. I would have waited if I had known of this :/


~Mooshykris

Jun Yamamoto
02-03-2009, 05:52 PM
They will coexist, meaning KP2 will remain as a different option.

Thank you for the information:)

Dale R.
02-28-2009, 10:03 AM
Does anyone know when Version 4 will be released? Or has it already been released? I've checked the garritan site a couple times recently and saw nothing on the "Marquee" that was relevant to me, since I use Sibelius 5.

rbowser-
02-28-2009, 12:07 PM
Hello, Dale

No specific date has been released yet, but the new version of GPO is coming "soon."

Here is Gary's update where he talks about the difficulties faced during 2008 and how things currently stand:

http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=65132

Randy B.

Olympus21
10-16-2009, 06:26 AM
Does it replace the Kontakt version? Or does it add a new library leaving the Kontakt version alone. I only ask because EWQL Synphonic Orchestra removes the NI version when one installs the PLAY version.
Thanks.

Regards

Olympus

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dossier surendettement (http://dossierdesurendettement.net/dossier-de-surendettement/dossier-de-surendettement)

Michael_uk
10-16-2009, 06:59 AM
Does it replace the Kontakt version? Or does it add a new library leaving the Kontakt version alone. I only ask because EWQL Synphonic Orchestra removes the NI version when one installs the PLAY version.
Thanks.

Regards

Olympus

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dossier surendettement (http://dossierdesurendettement.net/dossier-de-surendettement/dossier-de-surendettement)Hello Olympus and a warm welcome to our forums. :)

The new GPO4 Aria is a totally new installation and does not replace your existing KP2 version. Files created using your KP2 will not work in Aria without reassigning your instruments and any settings and vice-versa.

You can have both your existing KP2 version and the new GPO4 working happily side by side.

There are plenty of threads in other forums on this so do try a search for more info.