1.03 Bug?

[Curt]

I noticed that the damper pedal icon is lit when I first launch 1.03 and the first notes I play are sounded as though the damper pedal is fully depressed - without any pedal actually being depressed. I have to pump the damper pedal once to "reset" things.

Curt

[Jaybee]

Are You running the Beta build that Jeff posted in the thread? I haven't seen the final build yet on Garritan.biz.

[Jeff Hurchalla]

We haven't posted the final version (probably Monday). I'm pretty sure Curt is running the release candidate. If others are having this happen with the release candidate please let me know. I didn't run into it in my testing, but I'm going to try to reproduce it during the weekend. Thanks for the report.

[Curt]

Yup, running the beta that Jeff posted here on Thursday. This isn't a big deal and can get fixed when it gets fixed. The important thing here is that I can now start RECORDING with the Garritan Steinway!!

I couldn't be happier!

[fred Holmes]

Just installed the beta - On mine, although the damper pedal is not lit it seems the that's what I'm hearing. With the standalone, using the screen keyboard it seems fine but when I use my midi keyboard it sounds damped. If I increase the velocity curve on the keyboard there's a closer match to the on screen keyboard. I don't have another install on my laptop so can't make a comparison.

I may go back to 1.02 for awhile


Fred

[Rejean L]

Proportional sustain pedaling not working since my upgrade to 1.03 beta. Standalone.;)

[electone2007]

Proportional sustain pedaling not working since my upgrade to 1.03 beta. Standalone.;)


+1

However, there's no mention anywhere of intention to fix it.

[Jeff Hurchalla]

As for the continuous sustain, I definitely intend to fix that feature; but you're right it's not in the change log of 1.03 (since it's not in 1.03). The feature as it stands affects the resonance only, and I need to change it to affect note release decay times as well. The change just isn't in this update, and I don't want to make people wait when they can use all the changes and fixes that are in 1.03. Once v1.03 is finalized, I'll be working on version 1.04

My particular concern right now is making sure everything new for 1.03 is working correctly, and that all the old things that used to work fine still work fine. I'm looking into the reports Curt and Fred had about the damper probably tomorrow - other than that things appear to be okay with regard to 1.03. Of course if there are any other problems, or if there's more input on this issue, I'm very interested to know.

[electone2007]

As for the continuous sustain, I definitely intend to fix that feature;

That's nice to know, Jeff. Thank you very much for ver 1.03.

[Pingu]

I noticed that the damper pedal icon is lit when I first launch 1.03 and the first notes I play are sounded as though the damper pedal is fully depressed - without any pedal actually being depressed. I have to pump the damper pedal once to "reset" things.

Curt

Which pedal are we talking about here? To me the damper pedal is the sustain pedal, because it lifts the dampers off the strings.

It seems like a couple of later posts in the thread assume you're talking about the soft-pedal though.

[Curt]

Which pedal are we talking about here? To me the damper pedal is the sustain pedal, because it lifts the dampers off the strings. Calling it a "sustain" pedal is something I think came from the synth world. On a piano I always call it the damper pedal.


It seems like a couple of later posts in the thread assume you're talking about the soft-pedal though.
I don't know what I said to imply that. My only post (other than the confirmation post that I was running the beta that Jeff posted here) clearly stated the damper pedal. A few others started mentioning a problem they were having with proportional "sustain" but again, this is a property of the damper pedal.

Where did you get the impression we were talking about una corda?

[Pingu]

Where did you get the impression we were talking about una corda?

Well I didn't think you were talking about una corda, but I was just checking in case I'd missed something.

It was fred Holmes' post where he says that the first few notes he plays sound damped, but that tinkering with the velocity curve improves matters. Seemed to me that he was talking about a timbre/volume issue, whereas if the damper pedal is down then it'd be blatantly obvious, since the notes all carry on sounding.

[Curt]

Yup, I see what you are talking about now. Sounding "damped" does imply that his soft pedal is pressed!

[fred Holmes]

Sorry for any confusion. On Page 64 of Gary's Steinway booklet it uses both terms Damper and Sustaining for the right hand pedal. I've always used "Sustain" to describe that function. (I once had an upright, only 2 pedals, and the "damper pedal actually placed a felt strip in across all the strings so the hammers actually hit the felt (a very damped sound).

Anyway. I just got back from a trip and need to shovel out the 12+ inches we got yesterday/today. I have yet to go back to 1.02 to see if there is any difference.

Fred

[Jeff Hurchalla]

Fred, when you referred to damper pedal in the first post, were you meaning a pedal that makes the sound softer (specifically not the sustain pedal) ?

[fred Holmes]

Fred, when you referred to damper pedal in the first post, were you meaning a pedal that makes the sound softer (specifically not the sustain pedal) ?
Yes -see my response in post 03-02-2009 05:40 PM above

It seems that the sound was muted/softer after installing the 1.03 beta patch. Problem is that it's impossible to make direct comparisons without having both versions side by side.

Fred