Bosendorfer Imperial Grand!

[Bardstown Audio]

Bardstown Audio\'s Bosendorfer Imperial Grand Piano, Model 290 is completed and in production.

This 9 1/2 foot concert grand piano is Bosendorfer\'s top of the line. The extra lower bass strings give superior resonance to this world class concert grand piano.

We have sample recorded this piano in a concert performance hall with four velocities of pedal up, four velocities of pedal down, and release trigger samples. This piano is over one and a half gigabytes and will be available in Giga and EXS24 formats. These sampled CD\'s will be available exclusively from Bardstown Audio. www.BardstownAudio.com (\"http://www.BardstownAudio.com\")

Demos will be posted on our web site in a few days.

Kip
Bardstown Audio www.BardstownAudio.com (\"http://www.BardstownAudio.com\")



[This message has been edited by Bardstown Audio (edited 12-28-2001).]

[Aaron Symonds]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bardstown Audio:
Bardstown Audio\'s Bosendorfer Imperial Grand Piano, Model 290 is completed and in production.

This 9 1/2 foot concert grand piano is Bosendorfer\'s top of the line. The extra lower bass stings

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Ouch!

[esteven1]

*drool* *drool*

[Archangel]

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This piano is over one and a half gigabytes
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Whoah!!!! If THIS doesn\'t sound like a real piano, it\'s not normal!! http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/smile.gif

Archangel

[Bardstown Audio]

On another thread, Michiel Post was inquiring about DVD format for pianos. For the last several days, I have been experimenting with various forms of compression, in order to hopefully get the \"Bosendorfer Imperial\" down to one CD.

The Bosendorfer Imperial is a 1.51 gigabyte gig file, which will only compress down to 1.12 gigabytes and will have to go onto two CD\'s, instead of three.

It would be much simpler and make for a much cleaner installation to put the Bosendorfer onto a single DVD disk. I am very much leaning in this direction.

DVD drives have been standard on all new computers for the last year and a half. Also, internal DVD reader drives are just about as inexpensive as a CD reader drive.

For people who do not currently have a DVD drive on their computers, there are additional inexpensive and simple options, such as USB and Firewire DVD drives, which are \"plug in and play.\"

Considering these current, available, simple, and inexpensive DVD options, would many of you consider it a problem if the Bosendorfer Imperial were available on DVD only?

Kip
Bardstown Audio www.bardstownaudio.com (\"http://www.bardstownaudio.com\")

[Sam]

My main DAW (about 2 years old) has only SCSI drives, and back then CDR drives were slow so it has a CD and CDR. The new GS box has just a CDR. Both of these machines are are rock solid and critical to my work, so I will not make any configuration changes to them, really no matter what.

And I won\'t enable USB on these machines either, some of the things I have are sensitive to that. I don\'t mind multi disk installs, and I believe that DVD\'s are far from universal. Also a poll on a message board is going to be far from accurate, you don\'t really know if you reach a representative sample, or if your respondents are just a vocal minority.

My $0.02. It will be interesting to see how Kip\'s lib compares to the Truan one. The spec\'s read much the same, not that that tells you much, but that one is so good it probably bodes well.

[runamuck]

Hi,

I feel similarly to Sam and also dont currently own a DVD nor do I plan on purchasing one soon. However, I am very interested in the library you are developing
and would hate to be prevented from owning it
because of my lack of a DVD player.

I also want to say that I believe its too soon to be releasing sample libraried on DVD media only.

Thanks for asking

[Doug Marshall]

I agree, CD please. In a year the landscape nay be different but right now I\'ll bet most of us audio types are using CD drives and don\'t want to change our hardware just to load a sample set.

[Bardstown Audio]

[This message has been edited by Bardstown Audio (edited 12-31-2001).]

[Bardstown Audio]

I have received several inquiries concerning recording techniques of the Bosendorfer Imperial. This piano was sample recorded in a well designed state of the art performance hall. This piano is very well maintained and is very consistent.

Considering adequate natural ambience of the hall, this piano was stereo recorded with a pair of 130 volt B&K 4012\'s into Millennia HV3B pre-amps and Apogee A/D conversion, which is world class recording equipment for concert grand pianos.

These Bosendorfer samples are totally unprocessed, and absolutely no noise reduction was required. These samples were not put through any sort of batch normalization process, which can make for serious degradation of audio quality. Each individual stereo sampled note was individually set very near to 0 dB by hand on both the left and right side of the stereo spectrum, which makes for the highest audio quality and consistency from note to note.

This Bosendorfer Imperial was sample recorded with four velocity layers of pedal up, four velocity layers of pedal down, and release trigger samples, which very beautifully capture the natural ambience of the performance hall.

Kip
Bardstown Audio www.bardstownaudio.com (\"http://www.bardstownaudio.com\")

[Bardstown Audio]

I am at this moment working on both classical and jazz demos for the Bosendorfer Imperial, which will be posted to my web site by this weekend.

The Bosendorfer Imperial will be available for sale hopefully by next week, and will also be available on both DVD and CD\'s.

Kip
Bardstown Audio www.bardstownaudio.com (\"http://www.bardstownaudio.com\")

[Doc]

Downloaded one of your MP3\'s which had vibe / piano line doubled. No way to tell what the piano actually sounds like (I sure wasn\'t impressed - I\'m not panning your product since I have not really heard it by itself yet). My sugestion is to have classical and jazz solo piano MP3\'s so we can hear what it really sounds like. If you really want to impress us, use the same midi file as that web site (forget what address, but was listed or linked here in the forums before) that has all the competition\'s pianos playing the same thing so we can compare apples to apples. To all you sample developers out there some 411, while it is important to some of us which instrument model you record and the gear used to record it, the sound is what matters. Most real musicians know that they can get some great sounds from junk gear with low tech and have also gotten crap sound from a particular high end/ name instrument / recording gear. Bottom line is that we want to really hear it before we buy it since there is no returns with this stuff. Best wishes in getting good sounds for us to use.

[Z6]

\"If you really want to impress us, use the same midi file as that web site (forget what address, but was listed or linked here in the forums before) that has all the competition\'s pianos playing the same thing so we can compare apples to apples.\"

(Posted this earlier, but it disappeared into the ether)

Doc, I think you mean: www.purgatorycreek.com. (\"http://www.purgatorycreek.com.\") Very useful site.

I\'m looking for a piano, and I can get the superb Malsmjo for $100.

With the fierce competiton in piano libraries, I\'m interested in price. If this library sounds as good as the MAG and is cheaper, then I\'m sold.

I understand that we\'re all spoiled in terms of piano libraries and some are good for one thing and some another but the basic MAG sound is wonderful. Does this library beat that sound and that price?

[Bardstown Audio]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Doc:
My sugestion is to have classical and jazz solo piano MP3\'s so we can hear what it really sounds like. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you were to look at my previous posting before your posting, you would have seen that I am currently working on solo classical and solo jazz demos, which will be up on my web site by this weekend.

The demo that you listened to was George Shearing style, with double fisted piano block chords with unison vibes on top and unison electric jazz guitar on the bottom of the chord melody. This is classic George shearing sound.

Kip
Bardstown Audio www.bardstownaudio.com (\"http://www.bardstownaudio.com\")