What a Bunch of Whiners!

[MeltMe]

I\'ve been reading a lot of these threads, and I have to say that quite a few of you sound quite childish and mean-spirited. I should think that talented musicians would aspire to being more kind-hearted and contructive with their muse being that of the art of music. However, it seems that rather than getting to the business of creating such music, I keep seeing unsolicited destructive comments from many of the members here making me think that some of you don\'t have anything better to do than to rank on each other. Why can\'t y\'all be more mutually supportive? Didn\'t anyone ever teach you that \"If you don\'t have anything nice to say, then don\'t say anythng at all.\"?

[Robert Kral]

Funny, that\'s not really a very positive , or \"nice\" comment!

[Chadwick]

Actually, if you look hard enuff, there are some quite kind and generous people on these forums, from library developers like Scarbee, to pro users like Bruce Richardson -and they\'ve usually got something valuable that they\'re willing to share with the rest of us.

On the other hand, I suppose it\'s difficult to expect all the posts to be sweetness and light, when a fair percentage of those visiting these forums are here because Bill Gates and his evil minions have gotten between them and their music...

[gigaDiga]

Different forums have different people on them. I\'ll agree with Chadwick... there are some nice people here. But the Giga community is all business and no play. So there\'s no friendships sparking here. During the past 12 months I\'ve made some good friends on other forums but after about 24 months here.... squidly ditt. But, hey, I\'m not complaining... I\'m merely observing.

So pop in here to voice a complaint or write an observation, or perhaps even to help someone out of the kindness of your own heart. But don\'t expect a community from a bunch of people who\'d rather be alone when they make it to the top. After all who\'s name do you see next to Hans Zimmers? His invisible friend?

[SteveHanlon]

Chadwick, you hit on the head with the Gates\' evil empire.

How do we do it? How do so many people world-wide invest in faulty crap so that it grows into an unstoppable norm. Then a bunch of other crap-developers make more crap that \"enhances\" the initial crap creating a monstrous pile of....crap.

Gosh, it smells in here. I better stop while I\'m ahead.

Sorry to be negative. I guess i\'m one of those negatives guys that the negative guy who started this post was referring to.

Think positive.

Giga, I\'ll be your friend.

[SCARBEE]

Hi gigaDiga:

I will be your friend too http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/wink.gif. Actually I have made some friends here which I like very much. I should be possible to make friends when we share interests like this.

cheers

Scarbee

[Horst]

I think the forum is very precious. The majority of comments is serious and helps a lot to orientate.

Like in real life there are also low quality contributions but here this is fairly limited.

I am not a supporter of a \"culture of harmony\". I think this is a place to openly discuss issues and
- also -
to challenge the manufacturers of hard- and software to make the sampling products become better and better for the users to benefit from that.

The most important rule is to do it with some sort of style and fairness. I think this works here.

Horst

[Archangel]

Hi,

Here is my 2 cents : I know this is business....but, there are beginners who want to share knowledge with other people (I know beginners don\'t know as much as we do, but hey, everyone us us, even Ethan Winner, was a beginner once, and they got help from other people)....as for me, I\'m a beginner in Gigastudio stuff, but not in musical knowledge.. I\'m asking for your advice on libraries because I don\'t have that much cash to buy a 1000$ US library (I\'m Canadian btw), and because I compose for my own pleasure, not to sell.

Point is, it\'s not because we\'re here for business , or we\'re on the web, that there are no human contact....so I say, let\'s help each other , and if somebody post something that feels ridiculous for you, think that is might be a beginner, and he needs help....

Archangel

[Robert Kral]

Tell you what though, all in all this is a great forum. I\'ve not experienced a sampler forum like this ever before. You KNOW you can find answers here anytime. Also, for the most part, we all just wanna see GIGASTUDIO develop to the best it can be. We love it, and the criticisms are often made in the name wanting to improve it, or improve someone\'s orchestral writing, or whatever.

Hmmm, however, now I remember some very touchy stuff going on in a number of threads!!

[ursatz]

Strange, I would have said this is a fairly friendly community, all in all - I\'ve seen plenty of forums on the web where there\'s a *whole lot* more anger on a very regular basis. I don\'t know about lifelong friendships being formed here, but there\'s certainly a lot of helpful people.

[KingIdiot]

hmmm...
there is some bickering out here on this forum from time to time, but there are some Genuinely nice people on here that I\'m glad to have \"met\". In fact one or two of them are some of the nicest people I\'ve ever spoken to.

Now, one thing that I do find irritating on this forum is people who create multiple User Names for the sake of Mudslinging.

Though it is fun to see from time to time http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/wink.gif

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Really...I am an Idiot

[gigaDiga]

Hello Chummy Chums!

Shall we all go and play in the park? I\'ve got a ball. Ooooh it\'s so nice to have friends... and to think that I thought I\'d never have friends again since I so savagely axed and skinned my last lot up in a remote highland log cabin.

Oh If we\'re going to the park.... shall I bring my axe? http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/wink.gif

[DanS]

One thing I find about these forums, is that people sure do get picky about a lot of little things with regards to the software they use to make music. I think a lot of people new to composing these days have no clue how fortunate they are that programs like the Giga series stuff, the Cubases, Sonors, etc actually exist. Can you imagine playing with the quality of instruments available on platforms such as Gigasampler 15-20 years ago? I was there, and believe me, I sure do appreciate how far technology has come in the last 10 years. Sure none of these programs and software libraries are all things to all people, but hell they sure allow you to do things you never could have dreamed about 10 years ago.
I recently bought ArtVista\'s Malmsjö Acoustic Grand for Gigasampler. I couldn\'t stop smiling when I started playing it. Even my wife was blown away. When I read the morons whining about how Giga, Cubase, etc are piles of crap, I can only think these guys should just stick to cassette mini studios.
Sorry for the verbal diarrhea.

DanS

[Munsie]

\"Chadwick, you hit on the head with the Gates\' evil empire.\"

Without Bill I wouldn\'t be able to sustain my 6 figure income. Evilness? No way, shrewd business man, ofcourse. Computer problems happen just as much on other platforms, its just there isn\'t as many people to bitch about it!

As to another comment, I find it very hard to believe anyone would go through the trouble of setting up a GigaStudio system for non commercial dreams. The amount of time alone to configure and learn the system is bad enough, but when you add in the expense, (software,computer, samples)etc. I don\'t buy that line at all. http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/smile.gif

[EternalBlue]

Just wondering...are there any other forums, sites, communities in the vein of this forum? Also any slanted towards musical knowledge, composition discussions and constructive critiquing for beginners?

Cheers,

[Chadwick]

Try these:

http://209.216.16.19/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topics&forum=GigaStudio/GigaSampler&number=16 (\"http://209.216.16.19/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topics&forum=GigaStudio/GigaSampler&number=16\")
http://www..com (\"http://www..com\")
http://www.audioheadz.com/index.phtml (\"http://www.audioheadz.com/index.phtml\")
http://www.synthzone.com (\"http://www.synthzone.com\")
http://www.harmony-central.com (\"http://www.harmony-central.com\")



[This message has been edited by Chadwick (edited 11-07-2001).]

[Bill]

> I don\'t buy that line at all.

I don\'t know if you mean that as a joke...

But, believe it!

[David Govett]

In my experience, from the very begining of all things giga, the Giga users have always been a rather intense bunch, on user groups and through tech support phone calls and email. Intense but in the end, very kind and smart musicians once you get to know them. This is simply what happens when you combine creative musicians who are dying to use the latest and greatest stuff with notoriously psychotic PC computers. Once things get ironed out, I\'ve never met with happier more excited people.

Have fun
Dave