Kontakt Player 3.5.0 Is Up

[sergiobklyn]

What's New?


Merged with Kontakt
Extended memory addressing support for Mac (Memory Server)
Performance enhancements: true multi-processor support, enhanced playback engine, "zero-memory" DFD
Enhanced Kontakt Player library support including the Library Browser from KONTAKT PLAYER 2
Restored compatibility under Mac OS X 10.5. (Leopard) and Pro Tools (7.4.2)
Direct MIDI learn for sound parameter controls
Usage notes


Kontakt Player is no longer a separate application from Kontakt. Instead it is a 'mode' of Kontakt 3. To open Kontakt Player as standalone or as plug-in, please start 'Kontakt 3' from the usual location.
Owners of Kontakt 3 do not need to install Kontakt Player 3. Instead please update to Kontakt 3.5 from Service Center.
Installation notes


This version does not replace Kontakt Player 2. Each version can exist without affecting the other. Please migrate your host projects manually.

[germancomponist]

Workes great here!

[efiebke]

I was one of the public "Beta Testers" for the full-version Kontakt 3.5 program. (There wasn't a working Kontakt Player 3.5 version in the works, to my knowledge.) The later Beta versions were working great for me as is the current full version of Kontakt 3.5. :)

[germancomponist]

I was one of the public "Beta Testers" for the full-version Kontakt 3.5 program. (There wasn't a working Kontakt Player 3.5 version in the works, to my knowledge.) The later Beta versions were working great for me as is the current full version of Kontakt 3.5. :)

But the last beta took houres to load my setup. On PC.

I see us all on 64bit daws, 64bit plugs and instruments. O what a wonderful feature to be able to load hundrets of instruments at the same time!*()

[Raymond62]

O what a wonderful feature to be able to load hundrets of instruments at the same time!*()

Name 100 different instruments and I'll buy you a beer ~|

Raymond

[rbowser-]

Thanks for the info, sergiobklyn

I'm downloading the zip as I type. It's great that this doesn't replace KP2 - I feel safer jumping in to try it, since I won't be messed up if for some reason this new version doesn't work for me.

"Direct MIDI learn for sound parameter controls"

I'm curious if that's instead of the cumbersome way of assigning MIDI control to parameters in KP2? Will Garritan instruments be able to have their GUI controls moved by MIDI learn? Guess I'll find out!

Thanks again.
Randy

[germancomponist]

Raymond,

in Windows 7 you can adress up to 192 GB ram! Now we have 2 or 4GB... .;)

This means, for example with GPO, you do not must stream the samples from your hard-drive. It`s all in the ram, means, no limitations to load all instruments at the same time. No glitching, errores a.s.o. ... .

Salut! :)

Best,

Gunther

[germancomponist]

"Direct MIDI learn for sound parameter controls"

I'm curious if that's instead of the cumbersome way of assigning MIDI control to parameters in KP2? Will Garritan instruments be able to have their GUI controls moved by MIDI learn? Guess I'll find out!

Thanks again.
Randy

Randy, I have it and it works fine, pretty fine. K 3.5 is the best sampler I have had from NI!

Best,

Gunther

[RichR]

As I see on the Native Instruments web site. This is not the Kontakt Player that is free or available to GPO users, rather it is an adjunct player to those who have bought Kontakt 3. The player that is still availble for GPO and JaBB was last updated in 2008.

[germancomponist]

As I see on the Native Instruments web site. This is not the Kontakt Player that is free or available to GPO users, rather it is an adjunct player to those who have bought Kontakt 3. The player that is still availble for GPO and JaBB was last updated in 2008.

Yes, and there will never come a new NI player version for Garritan libraries, because Gary has his new Aria. And I am sure Aria will go 64bit too, or perhaps it is...!

But, if you have got Kontakt 3.5 Sampler, there you can load all the Garritan libraries. Perhaps with some scripting bugs, as it was in Kontakt Sampler 3 too.... . :D

Gunther

[robh]

My NI Control Center program shows an option to specifically update GPO to the new player. (I have Kontakt 3, so there was no point doing that.)

Rob

[germancomponist]

My NI Control Center program shows an option to specifically update GPO to the new player. (I have Kontakt 3, so there was no point doing that.)

Rob

Are you sure that the update was meant not only for the sampler. You have Kontakt Sampler 3, so it is a "must" to update!

Edit: Oops, I have had a look at NI and yes, you are right, there is an Player update. But I would ask Gary before download! In the past there was so many trouble with new Kontakt-Player-updates.

I did a new thread here: http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/showpost.php?p=625513&postcount=1

[rbowser-]

Well! This KP update has kept me happily busy this morning.

Here's what I've found:

--At my account info page at NI, it had the update for KP3 listed for all my Garritan Libraries.

--The info in the first post of this thread is directly from NI, with the important point that KP3 doesn't replace KP2.

--I've tested it out in Sonar. I had KP2 and KP3 coexisting with no problem, each with instruments loaded.

--As with KP2, I quickly got KP3 set up with 32 audio channels out.

--MIDI learn works great, now tuning of an instrument can quickly be assigned to a CC.

This quote from this thread isn't accurate:

"This is not the Kontakt Player that is free or available to GPO users."

Yes it is. I'm not sure if KP3 will offer more functionality to us, but as per the above, I had no trouble installing it and using it alongside KP2.

GUNTHER - It seems you've already had more experience with KP3 than the rest of us on this thread - So I have a question:

I got excited for awhile because under the new "Database" tab, I had access to absolutely all samples and .wav files on my computer and external hard drive. I was able to bring in entire audio tracks if I wanted, and they were available as samples to be played in KP3.

But then I saw that these kind of files were loading with the tag "DEMO." Reading through the manual, I see that this is meant for libraries one might have from NI but which aren't activated. These files will stay activated for only 30 minutes, then if you want to activate the libraries, you click "Activate" and you're taken to the NI service center.

--Of course one can't activate .wav files on one's computer - you can only activate NI libraries.

I haven't found any way for all of these audio files under the Database tab to be used without this time limit.

Is there a way you know of to make this happen? KP3 seems very good, but it would be REally great if it could also be a sample player for anything we have on our machines.

Do you know, Gunther, or anyone else?

Randy

[germancomponist]

Randy,

I have not installed KP3, I have installed K-Sampler 3.5 .

I was a betatester and I never had the problems you discribed. All workes fine here. I am on PC.

So do you mean the player or the sampler?

If you have only the player, than I think NI will get you a chance to see/listen what can happen if you import samples e.t.c., but for sure they want you to buy the Sampler.... . This would be a cool demo-way! :)

Best,

Gunther

[Raymond62]

Raymond,

in Windows 7 you can adress up to 192 GB ram! Now we have 2 or 4GB... .;)

This means, for example with GPO, you do not must stream the samples from your hard-drive. It`s all in the ram, means, no limitations to load all instruments at the same time. No glitching, errores a.s.o. ... .

Salut! :)

Best,

Gunther

That will be the day!!! Name me a Motherboard that can have 192 GB.

Just kidding,

Raymond

[RichR]

Randy,


This quote from this thread isn't accurate:

"This is not the Kontakt Player that is free or available to GPO users."


Explain to me how I would get KP3 Player then as I cannot find it on the site unless you own Kontakt 3. Some of us can't afford buying the full blown Native Instruments Kontakt player.

[rbowser-]

OH, I see - Thanks for the reply, Gunther.

I misunderstood what this meant:

"...Merged with Kontakt...

Kontakt Player is no longer a separate application from Kontakt..."

I thought this meant that NI was making Kontakt a free app to people already using libraries with KP2 - since much of their income is from the libraries designed to work in Kontakt, I thought now the sample player/editor was free. See? I misinterpreted "merged" and "no longer separate." So NI continues to make money also from the full Kontakt.

You're right--In the player I updated this morning, they are allowing a demo of what it's like to bring in any audio file you want so you can build instruments etc.

Oh well!

But I can say that all the Garritan libraries function perfectly well in this KP3, and it could be worth the free, easy upgrade to other users. Multiple core support is supposed to now be fully functional in this version, for one thing.

Randy

[rbowser-]

Hey, your new post came in as I was writing the last one, Rich.

I logged on at NI, went to my account info page, and asked for all my registered products to be listed. At the top of the list for each Garritan Library, there's a link for downloading KP3. Of course you only need to upgrade using one of the links, not for each separate library.

Go poke around at NI again, you'll see it.

Randy

[Pingu]

I'm somewhat confused. Don't instruments specifically have to be written for a specific version of the player? I'd have thought the Garritan part of GPO needed updating as well as the player, which obviously isn't going to be the case.

I'll be really happy if that's not true. I'm about to rebuild my system, and was looking at having to install KP2 for GPO, Strad and Gofriller, but KP3.5 for SampleModdeling stuff, as well as Kompakt Player for EW stuff. If they'll all run in KP3.5 it would be great.

[rbowser-]

I'm somewhat confused. Don't instruments specifically have to be written for a specific version of the player? I'd have thought the Garritan part of GPO needed updating as well as the player, which obviously isn't going to be the case.

I'll be really happy if that's not true. I'm about to rebuild my system, and was looking at having to install KP2 for GPO, Strad and Gofriller, but KP3.5 for SampleModdeling stuff, as well as Kompakt Player for EW stuff. If they'll all run in KP3.5 it would be great.
Hi, David - I've been experimenting with this all morning, as I've said in my posts. I still have Sonar open with a KP3 instance loaded - all Garritan Libraries are available and play fine in it.

Think back to some of the earlier Kontakt Player upgrades--they didn't always involve new versions of the samples.

So--they Do all run in KP3!

Randy

[RichR]

Well from both my Service Center and directly online to Native-Instruments, there is Nothing that shows my capability as a Kontakt 2 Player owner of being able to get Kontakt 3 Player. You must OWN Kontakt 3 to get the Kontakt 3 player update.

That is great for all of you that have Kontakt 3 but it should be clear that those of us with the GPO or JaBB (or both) with the Kontakt 2 player can get the Kontakt 3 Player.:mad:

I'm waiting for ARIA anyway! :)

[rbowser-]

Hello again, Rich - I do not own the full version of Kontakt. So, no, you do not have to own Kontakt 3 to get KP3. That's what I've been saying on this thread all morning. lol.

Here - I'll go back to NI to see if I can be more specific about where I went--It was from starting on my account page though.

Aria will be great, but remember that for now it will only play GPO. All the other Garritan Libraries will still need KP.

I'll be back.

Randy

[rbowser-]

At NI, log in - Go to your account, then your Personal Update Manager. Where it says "Please select"---choose "Show All Products." The resulting list will have all your registered Libraries and all available updates. At the top of each Garritan Library list, you'll see where to download the KP3.5 upgrade.

Randy

[efiebke]

At NI, log in - Go to your account, then your Personal Update Manager. Where it says "Please select"---choose "Show All Products." The resulting list will have all your registered Libraries and all available updates. At the top of each Garritan Library list, you'll see where to download the KP3.5 upgrade.

Randy

Randy -

Thanks for the info!! I forgot all about that method of updating the Native-Instruments products. I'm so used to going through their newer Service Center.

Cheers! :)

Ted

[RichR]

Thanks, Randy. I thought I had done it that way, but I will check again as per your instructions. I'll let you know. Maybe they don't like me at Native Instruments. LOL

[RichR]

Well, Dang, How did it show up there. It is not in my Service Center and shouldn't it be? It wasn't as easy to get to as you listed but I got there and sure enough. Okay, Okay, I'll eat my words. It is an update for all. Now will it be better than KP2 or just more problems getting all connected together.

:)Thanks, Randy:)

[rbowser-]

Cool, Rich and Ted - This KP3.5 probably offers only a little improvement for us KP2 users, but it's working fine for me, and the multiple core support improvement is probably worth it.

Trouble for me now is that it's an excellent advertisement for how the full Kontakt works - I'd love to have all those sample editing tools. Waaaah - I was in la la land this morning, thinking this was part of KP3. But noooo, they give you a glimpse of how it works - and it makes you want to grab your wallet for the big upgrade!

Randy

[rbowser-]

hehe--you were posting at the same time as me again, Rich. Glad you found it. I tried the Service Center first, and when I didn't see it listed, then I went the old route of going to my account.

I really don't think you'll have problems "getting all connected together" as you just said. After the initial 10 minute scan KP3 did of my entire computer, it was working instantly inside Sonar as I loaded various Garritan instruments in it. You should be fine.

Randy

[robh]

Randy, I had found in the past that certain GPO patches didn't work properly in K3(full version - Timpani comes to mind.) Are you finding that everything in KP3.5 works as it should including timpani?

I haven't had a chance to explore K3.5 much yet.

Rob

[rbowser-]

Hi, Rob - That's a good question. I have only tried a few instruments, so haven't stopped to try everything. Next time I'm in Sonar I'll check the Tymp in KP3, and other instruments as well. So my enthusiasm so far is based on a fairly cursory trial. So far so good!

EDIT: Everyone should keep in mind that KP3 won't replace your KP2. If we find that some instruments don't work as well in it, no harm done, KP2 is still there, available, unchanged by the addition of KP3.

Randy

[snorlax]

I got to the Personal Update Manager by logging in, going to support, then clicking all downloads, then product updates (protected).

Jim

[germancomponist]

I'm somewhat confused. Don't instruments specifically have to be written for a specific version of the player? I'd have thought the Garritan part of GPO needed updating as well as the player, which obviously isn't going to be the case.

I'll be really happy if that's not true. I'm about to rebuild my system, and was looking at having to install KP2 for GPO, Strad and Gofriller, but KP3.5 for SampleModdeling stuff, as well as Kompakt Player for EW stuff. If they'll all run in KP3.5 it would be great.

Pingu, for the east west SO I would only use the Sampler K 3.5. Especially if you have Platinum you can adjust so many things... .

[dudefromthebronx]

Is this update for MAC users only?

[rbowser-]

Is this update for MAC users only?
No, for PC users also.

Randy B.

[rbowser-]

Here's an unexpected and bizarre thing - I use Adobe Premiere Elements for video editing. It insists on scanning all music and sound .dlls every time the program is opened, even though so many of them are apps that Premiere couldn't actually use - such as the Kontakt Player.

Well, Premiere refuses to open with KP3 on board. - ! - Details of the error log said it's the KP3.exe file which is the problem. I don't need the stand alone version, so I threw it out - Checked that everything still worked in Sonar, it did, it only needs the VSTs- Now, after re-booting the computer, Premiere will open. - Unexpected situation though.

Randy

[RichR]

Just a note to all who use Band in a Box, this new update of Kontakt player is a lot more friendly. I had no crashes nor reloads of the instruments selected and even changed while using both together. It certainly amazed me. Now if I can only get the Mod Wheel to be recognized by BiaB. hmmm......

[vamanadeva]

Hello All

If anyone has any installation problems on Tracktion 3, this is the first thing they should install, activate from demo, and then scan and create racks.

David


What's New?


Merged with Kontakt
Extended memory addressing support for Mac (Memory Server)
Performance enhancements: true multi-processor support, enhanced playback engine, "zero-memory" DFD
Enhanced Kontakt Player library support including the Library Browser from KONTAKT PLAYER 2
Restored compatibility under Mac OS X 10.5. (Leopard) and Pro Tools (7.4.2)
Direct MIDI learn for sound parameter controls
Usage notes


Kontakt Player is no longer a separate application from Kontakt. Instead it is a 'mode' of Kontakt 3. To open Kontakt Player as standalone or as plug-in, please start 'Kontakt 3' from the usual location.
Owners of Kontakt 3 do not need to install Kontakt Player 3. Instead please update to Kontakt 3.5 from Service Center.
Installation notes


This version does not replace Kontakt Player 2. Each version can exist without affecting the other. Please migrate your host projects manually.

[raintalk]

Just a note to all who use Band in a Box, this new update of Kontakt player is a lot more friendly. I had no crashes nor reloads of the instruments selected and even changed while using both together. It certainly amazed me. Now if I can only get the Mod Wheel to be recognized by BiaB. hmmm......

Hi Rich - did you do anything special to get it working? I gave up on BAIB with Kontakt a long time ago. I couldn't get any of the instrument changes to work.
Thanks,