Moving GPO Sound data to another drive [Archive]

rbowser-

08-01-2009, 09:05 AM

That's a good question, mnstudio - In Aria there isn't a browser window to direct the app to the sound Library's folder. I think you need to have set that location during the installation process. Have you tried un-installing and going through it again? You already have the download, the part that takes the longest - now see if you can't direct the installer to the external drive where you want the Library stored.

Randy

mnstudio

08-01-2009, 09:23 AM

No, AFAIK it isn't possible to install the library in a different location from the software itself..
I also tried to copy the "Garritan Personal Orchestra 4" folder (in which there are the sound data) to another drive and put an alias on the original location, but Aria doesn't see it the same...

rbowser-

08-01-2009, 09:27 AM

I see, mnstudio - I couldn't recall for sure if the installer gave you a choice of location the way most installers do.

Well then - It looks like you'll have to rearrange your expectations and have the Library on your main hard drive. Unless Tony or another programmer has suggestions?

Randy

mnstudio

08-01-2009, 09:31 AM

It looks like you'll have to rearrange your expectations and have the Library on your main hard drive. Unless Tony or another programmer has suggestions?

Just so....

rbowser-

08-01-2009, 09:43 AM

But, mnstudio - I haven't found it to be a problem having GPO on my main drive. I use external drives for my Sonar projects. I'm not sure why you feel you'd prefer having the Library elsewhere--?

Randy

RichR

08-01-2009, 09:44 AM

Can't you install the whole thing on any drive of your choosing?

rbowser-

08-01-2009, 09:47 AM

Hi, Rich - He apparently is saying that when he installed, he didn't see any options being given about where things would be installed. - ? -

Randy

David (plogue)

08-01-2009, 09:49 AM

Just so....

The paths to everything in ARIA is all in the registry (windows) and plists (osx).
Manually editing them is currently the best way to move things around for GPO4 (apart from reinstalling the "Personal Orchestra 4" package that is). Of course that is not for everyone. (and if you screw things up, then only a reinstall will help you :)

We've received a very awful email complaint about this particular issue yesterday, (i have to admit im sensitive to the issue now)

So let me just say that from the EARLY DESIGN STAGES, we have planned a full utility to manage ARIA sample content that will deal with changing the paths to samples in a graphical manner (Steinway has this in a simple form called "Sample Manager"), GPO4, being a more complex library with many tens of sub banks, is another ballgame.

So this utility is planned, (no date yet). So in the mean time, please keep in mind that we think of everything (LOL) .. just a time resource thing at this point.

Regards, and please have fun with GPO4!

germancomponist

08-01-2009, 09:55 AM

Install it new!

When installing, the installer asks you first where to save GPO4, and then he asks where to save the samples(only) .

Gunther

rbowser-

08-01-2009, 09:57 AM

Hi, David - Great to see you on this kind of thread.

When you said, "...apart from reinstalling the "Personal Orchestra 4" package that is..." - You're meaning that one Does have a choice of where things are placed during the initial install? --That was the original point brought up on this thread, and mnstudio seemed to be saying that didn't work for him.

Randy

rbowser-

08-01-2009, 09:59 AM

...When installing, the installer asks you first where to save GPO4, and then he asks where to save the samples(only)...
Thanks, Gunther--that's what I thought also. mnstudio--you said that didn't work for you - ??

Randy

mnstudio

08-01-2009, 10:15 AM

Ok. It's only because I am used to put all my libraries on external drives for major speed and reliability.
But it works fine the same.
I'll wait when the update will be ready

When installing, the installer asks you first where to save GPO4, and then he asks where to save the samples(only)

It doesn't work for me. At first it asks you where you want to install GPO and then it goes straight till the end of installation, so you can't put the library other than the original choice...

I could install all the package on external drive, but in that case the installer creates an "Application" folder on that drive, whilst I prefer to have it on Application folder in main HD

David (plogue)

08-01-2009, 11:44 AM

Hi

There is a way, but you need to be extra careful in the install process.
The macs with the installer packages are at work, but someone could maybe do a few screen shots of the process?

Basically GPO4 comes with 3 main sub packages.
1)The ARIA Engine
2)The Garritan ARIA "Player" (different thing)

Both of these should be on the system drive.

3)The GPO4 library (patches and samples)

This can be on ANY of your drives.

germancomponist

08-01-2009, 12:17 PM

David,

when comes the ARIA-SAMPLER?

I am impressed of the player and I am an edit-freak .-)))))))) *()

Best,

Gunther

efiebke

08-01-2009, 01:53 PM

My happy MacPro computer has 4 internal disk drives. Drive #2 is my "Audio Library" drive. Unlike most other software programs that allow you to ONLY install them on the "Macintosh HD" drive, this was not the case for me. The GPO4/Aria Player update provided me with all four of my computer's hard disk drives as choices to install the program. So, I installed it on drive #2 or the "Audio Library" drive which houses the rest of the instrumental libraries. It installed EVERYTHING on the "Audio Library" drive including the player (unlike other players like Kontakt which will only install on the "Macintosh HD"). The stand-alone Aria Player works just fine. Also the Aria Player is recognized by the Logic Pro 8.02 program. So far, so good, I'm happy to say! :)

Ted

mnstudio

08-01-2009, 02:09 PM

It installed EVERYTHING on the "Audio Library" drive including the player
As I said..... But this is what I want to avoid.
Also David (Plogue) states that

1)The ARIA Engine
2)The Garritan ARIA "Player" (different thing)

Both of these should be on the system drive

For the installation..

There is a way, but you need to be extra careful in the install process.

But I haven't even understood the way.....

efiebke

08-01-2009, 03:25 PM

To be honest, I read what David wrote after I wrote my post. I had no idea that it was recommended that the major GPO4/Aria Player components be installed in the system drive (for the Apple-computer people, that would be the "Macintosh HD" drive). Interestingly, most (if not all other) programs will only give the "Macintosh HD" drive as a choice for installing the software. This was not the case for me this time. So, for the heck of it, I installed the GPO4/Aria Player on my happy "Audio Library" drive. And, like I mentioned in my previous post, all works fine; so far, so good. Is it dumb luck for me? Most probably. :D

Would I recommend doing this for other Apple-computer people. No. Not unless the developers of the GPO4/Aria Player says it's o.k.

Ted

Haydn

08-01-2009, 06:43 PM

when comes the ARIA-SAMPLER?

I am impressed of the player and I am an edit-freak .-))))))))

You can edit the files in a text editor such as Notepad. Take a look at the .sfz files. There are quite a few parameters and it's not graphical!

Jim

germancomponist

08-01-2009, 07:07 PM

You can edit the files in a text editor such as Notepad. Take a look at the .sfz files. There are quite a few parameters and it's not graphical!

Jim

So, ADSR is easy to edit?

fred Holmes

08-02-2009, 07:31 AM

raweber

08-02-2009, 08:24 AM

So, ADSR is easy to edit?

This sounds like a hijack...

Seriously, sfz's are really easy to edit. I would assume that the ADSR envelope is the same as in the sfz1.0 spec (Aria is a variation of that with additional opcodes).

So, assuming it is true that they didn't change the ampeg opcodes, you should be in business.

Here's a listing of all the sfz1.0 opcodes: http://www.cakewalk.com/DevXchange/sfz.asp

David (plogue)

08-02-2009, 08:43 AM

This sounds like a hijack...

Seriously, sfz's are really easy to edit. I would assume that the ADSR envelope is the same as in the sfz1.0 spec (Aria is a variation of that with additional opcodes).

So, assuming it is true that they didn't change the ampeg opcodes, you should be in business.

Here's a listing of all the sfz1.0 opcodes: http://www.cakewalk.com/DevXchange/sfz.asp

This is true. GPO4 uses "supplemented" ampeg opcodes, (you can change the curvature of each segment). But depending on the SFZ file at hand there may be two amplitude envelopes at once (the other being eg06_amplitude) ...each file is really fine tuned :)

One of my dearest wishes is to get the time to publish ARIA's suplement opcodes.
But lets move that to the aria thread if you will..

rbowser-

08-02-2009, 09:50 AM

You CAN install samples to a different drive. When the third install procedure appears just change the path to the drive/directory you want. I've done this on both my laptop and desktop and it works perfectly.

Fred
Thanks, Fred for reconfirming what was said earlier in this thread. Mnstudio---there are three separate install routines. You must have missed it when you were installing, but as Fred and others are saying, when the 3rd install dialogue starts, you direct the library to be installed wherever you want--it can be on a different drive from the app.

Randy

germancomponist

08-02-2009, 12:35 PM

This sounds like a hijack...

Seriously, sfz's are really easy to edit. I would assume that the ADSR envelope is the same as in the sfz1.0 spec (Aria is a variation of that with additional opcodes).

So, assuming it is true that they didn't change the ampeg opcodes, you should be in business.

Here's a listing of all the sfz1.0 opcodes: http://www.cakewalk.com/DevXchange/sfz.asp

Oops,

I want to edit them in ARIA, in the musical complex(song), when I am arranging. For example if you change tempo to very fast, then the attacks must be shorter as at slow tempo. You now can only control the attack-volume via velocity, but this is not the same. ... And editing in an extra editor makes no sense here.

An editor should be great to do samplelibs or sounddesign... .