What you think about GPO 4 solo violins?

[JUPEKU]

What you think about GPO 4 solo violins? i think some areas GPO is very nice product based dimension le but i dont be sure about solo violins. i need more what i currently have in some areas solo violin is one of these. All other areas i know well based what i heared. and i dont mean pizzicatto tones but "regular ones"...

[swinkler]

I think they are exactly the same as GPO2/3 solo violins ;)

Seriously I believe better solo strings are part of GOS2. I'm looking forward to the release of this product as I know many are.

Steve Winkler

[JUPEKU]

Yes but i need some other stuff what comes with gpo. My current orchestral library lacks to my taste good harpsicord,and some others. I use Miroslav Philharmonik. Second choice is offtopic.

[Henry Buck]

Solo string vibrato control is planned for a GPO4 patch, but there's no word on when that's coming.

[Larry G. Alexander]

Yes but i need some other stuff what comes with gpo. My current orchestral library lacks to my taste good harpsicord,and some others. I use Miroslav Philharmonik. Second choice is offtopic.

The GPO harpsichord is one of the best sounding instruments I have ever heard and I've been around a long time.

The instrument is key-switched and three different sounds are available.

[wst3ae]

"it depends!"

It depends on (a) what it is you are recording, (b) your chops, and (c) what other stuff will be accompanying the solo strings.

I have, and use the old Solo Strad and Gofriller violin and cello for my "finished" mock-ups, but they require a ton of effort to play, they do not work well in a notation tool.

Most of the time, if I just want to hear what something might sound like, or if I need to demonstrate some timing or other intricacies to a player I use GPO (since V1) and it works out just fine.

I could probably write a book picking nits with all of the GPO and JABB instruments if I really wanted to, and if I could justify the purchase of one of the mega libraries. But, I don't believe that was ever the intention of GPO or JABB... they are tools that are extremely easy to use (unless you want access to a couple hundred articulations), and they sound great - with the obvious caveat that they do not cover all possible articulations.

The one possible downside - and I think of it as more of an unintended consequence - is that the more you use GPO the better you get at arranging, and the more likely you will want more control over vibrato, or more articulations or whatever. So be it, you are getting better at your art and you'll need better tools.

Even without the price tag I can't think of a better first sample library because it'll meet more than 80% of your needs for a long time.

Go for it!

[ejr]

I think the best instruments in GPO are the harps and I'll second the comment on the harpsichord, too. They are equal or better to anything I have found elseware. I have better libraries for most of the other instruments. (I like the string basses and brass in JABB better, for example). But the GPO instruments aren't bad and most will do in a pinch. The only ones that I haven't been able to use at all are the French Horns, the pianos and nearly all the organs. [NOTE: I am still using version 1 (patched for K2) not the ARIA version. I expect you will see some improvements in the latest version.]

Rearding the strings: Although I have better libraries, I use the GPO solo strings sometimes when I need to build small sections or when I need a long sustain. The GPO strings are looped, which means that you can hold a note as long as you need to. Many other libraries contained non-looped samples for their solo strings (and advetise this as a plus). In practice, I find that sooner or later I need to hold a note longer than one of these samples and then I have to re-assign the part to a GPO instrument.

Another reason to use GPO strings over those in another library is that they lack ambiance and detail, so they mix well if you want an indistinct pad. (I usually don't use instruments in that way, but GPO has been helpful on those occassions where I have needed to do this.)

[JUPEKU]

Now seems i need more than one library if harpsicords are not good in product what i think i mean Complete Classical Collection 2nd Edition Peter Siedlaczek. One big problem with GPO4 is if i use mac mini i need faster harddrive if specs are true in Garritans page. I know i can buy faster external drive but makes less sence about mac mini idea etc. I talk this here becouse there is many GPO users.

[Larry G. Alexander]

Now seems i need more than one library if harpsicords are not good in product what i think i mean Complete Classical Collection 2nd Edition Peter Siedlaczek. One big problem with GPO4 is if i use mac mini i need faster harddrive if specs are true in Garritans page. I know i can buy faster external drive but makes less sence about mac mini idea etc. I talk this here becouse there is many GPO users.



Your post is practically unreadable. You are stringing your sentences together without interruption. Use some punctuation, especially periods.

[JUPEKU]

Try again even i poor writer:
I mean i maybe need 2 libraries more if GPO solo strings are not good. Becouse Complete Classical Collection 2nd Edition Peter Siedlaczek harpsicords are maybe also poor.(I dont like Miroslav Philharmonik harpsicords much)
And i thinking if GPO4 really needs 7200 rpm harddrive.
ps. i add sounds to Miroslav Philharmonik and few other sources.

[LFO]

Hello JUPEKU,
I responded to your other thread, but will expand here. Of all the libraries out there, GPO is either at the top of the list or close to it for least resources required to run it. 7200 RPM drives should be the minimal requirement (a 16 megabyte cache on the drive is also preferable) for any orchestral library. I'm thinking you are wanting to keep the (magnificent) small footprint of the Mac Mini. I don't blame you! You can connect a long Firewire or USB cable to the Mac Mini and have the drives on another surface other than your desk, or choose hard drives that will stack nicely on the Mini. Mac Mini drives, Fantom drives, etc. will fit the bill.

Keep in mind, to avoid cracks and pops you will want one drive for OS and programs (internal drive), one for sample streaming (external) and one for projects (second external). Throw in a Time Machine drive and backup drive(s) for your samples/project drives and you will have a nice little farm of external drives to work with. :)

-Kevin

[JUPEKU]

I tested Dimension LE solo violin and solo flute these are good for uses where i need quiet tones. but loud ones are bit ugly. But all we i know (i know even Garritan knows if not its sad) all libraries have good and bad points. If there is perfect orchestral (or any other) library we dont need to be use many. And i must say for example i really hate oboe sounds what i heared in Vienna examples i tell this becouse is much more pricey library than GPO and many others but still sounds to my taste very poor. I mean problem is unsolvable by money. and maybe GPO is best addinational stuff for Miroslav Philharmonik to me becouse there is good harpsicord,and some other sounds.
and now seems even timpani for which is good custom rolls. And why i dont use Dimension LE what i have harpsicord yes i use (if i need) but i maybe someday change mac which removes possiblity use some software...

[Saraswati]

One thing I've always appreciated about the GPO solo violins, though there are obviously more detailed and sophisticated violins out there, is the delicate sweetness of the tone. Does anyone else feel this way? Of course we all look forward to the more advanced versions that will come with GOS2 or upgrades to GPO.

I agree that the harps are the best instruments in GPO (makes sense, Gary being a harpist), and the harpsichord seems good too. I'm also a harpist & harpsichordist, and prefer the GPO harpsichord to that in a certain well-known more expensive library.......Just now did a test, with identical settings for each, and the GPO one felt more real, more varied & interesting, and more inspiring to play. But of course that's subjective; your reaction may differ.

JUPEKU, if you want to add to your early keyboard collection at very low cost, check out the half-price Sampletekk sale (advertised here). You'd probably like the Sampletekk harpsichord or the PMI Historic Instruments, as well as the clavichords. And they're unbelievably cheap!

That being said, have you tried adding ambience to the GPO harpsichord? Just bringing up the Concert Hall setting (or any other) really enlivens it and makes it sound quite stunning.

Saraswati

[sonata5920]

Gday,

Saraswati said:

“One thing I've always appreciated about the GPO solo violins, though there are obviously more detailed and sophisticated violins out there, is the delicate sweetness of the tone.”

I think this is true, provided the solo violins are used with moderation. Over four or perhaps eight bars at a time, not more and not in combination with other solo strings. The vibrato that works well on short phrases becomes tiring and mechanical on longer solos. The lack of vibrato control is a shortcoming of the solo violins. In my view, proper vibrato control that includes no vibrato, is of major importance for a solo violin.

Solo violin 2 has a dip in volume on extended length notes, like an untimely change of bowing direction.

Herbert