Loops for DD Strings?

[El-Sim]

Hello all-
I am a fairly new GS user. I have the Dan Dean Solo strings library and am noticing that on long sustained passages the notes cut off- I am assuming that is because they are unlooped.
Can anyone tell me how I can fix it so that the notes keep playing on long sustained passage?
I tried contacting Dan directly on his website, but I guess he is as busy as the Nemesys guys who don\'t get back to you.

Your help is greatly appreciated

-El Sim

[dandean]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by El-Sim:
Hello all-
I am a fairly new GS user. I have the Dan Dean Solo strings library and am noticing that on long sustained passages the notes cut off- I am assuming that is because they are unlooped.
Can anyone tell me how I can fix it so that the notes keep playing on long sustained passage?
I tried contacting Dan directly on his website, but I guess he is as busy as the Nemesys guys who don\'t get back to you.

Your help is greatly appreciated

-El Sim<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Hi El Sim,

Please don\'t lump me into the Nemesys bunch. There are some intrinsically radical differences between us. First, I am not nor have I ever been independently wealthy. Second, I didn\'t just sell my business to Tascam for a bazillion dollars. Third, if you had actually written to me via email (which you didn\'t, because I never received it) I would have responded to you immediately...ask any number of users on this group. And fourth, I have a looped articulation file sitting right here on my computer\'s desktop, but you\'re not going to get it.

Thanks for your post,
DD

[El-Sim]

Dearest Dan-
Darn that is cold \"\'\"(snif)
^

I went to your website 2 days ago and hit the contact button and asked these very same questions-Im really not sure why u didnt get it...
I am sorry to \'lump\' you in with the Nemesys guys, but I have gotten a bit frustrated with the lack of response-

This is the first place anyone has actually gotten back to me-
I even called Nemesys about the loops that I was talking about and got the afforementioned problem.

On a positive note, I really do like the sounds- or I would not be so intent on trying to solve this problem-

By the way, if u have forgiven me, could u also tell me how the get the viola legato sample to play louder? It seems like it is not coming out against the other strings in the quartet-

Faithfully evermore-


El-Sim

[dandean]

El Sim,

Send me your email address. I\'ll send you the articulation file. It is not a fix-all to the Solo Strings note duration issue. Since all of the samples are stereo, the looping is NOT seamless. I personally, don\'t like it but it might work for your purposes. I\'ll be doing an Upgrade to the DDSS and I\'ll fix all of these issues. About the Viola being softer, I\'m not aware of this issue. Make certain and go to my site and download the update. If the Viola was not +6db in the version you have, this could have caused the variation in levels between the Viola and other instruments.

Thanks,
DD

[El-Sim]

Dan-

You are a true gentleman-

Thanks,
Ill also try your website again-

My e-mail is
MZSaltman@worldnet.att.net

[paynterr]

I guess the argument would be why would you want long sustaining notes, unless you are talking about someone with the lung capacity of an elephant playing the instrument http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/smile.gif I imagine the samples are set up to be the length that a \'professional\' player can muster!?
There again, there is no reason why you can\'t use the sounds in any which way you want etc.
I\'ll shut up and go out on the town now!
Rich

[apessino]

paynterr, they are talking about strings, not woodwinds or brass.. http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/wink.gif

A-

[paynterr]

Whoops! Sorry - perhaps I should learn to read... DEFINTELY time to go out... thank god I\'m in GMT and it\'s 6pm... rather than the morning all over again http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/smile.gif

[El-Sim]

Thanks for your input and output folks-

No question that the Viola is naturally dark sounding and somewhat quiet- It seemed like I ran into the problem more in medium quick passages(not quite staccato)The longer and held notes seemed to be just fine.
By the way-
What do u do for Blizzard Andrea?
I have a couple of their games(the music is quite good and appropriate)

[KingIdiot]

he deals with questions like

\"can you make it sound like The Matrix?\"

and comments like

\"you know...when I was listening to the in game music in my car...it didn\'t *feel* right, can you do something about it? Maybe make it more hip hop?\"

http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/grin.gif

------------------
Really...I am an Idiot

[Jamieh]

apessino, please expound on your DD solo brass findings. I was trying to decide on getting just the trumpet or the whole set. Have you played with the horn at all? How does the trumpet do with fast articulations?

Heck, I should just buy the darn library and find out for myself--I just like to do informed buying. http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/smile.gif

[El-Sim]

PS-

Dan sent me the loops-
and they work pretty well-
They are really necessary in string quartet stuff-

THANKS DD
(By the way, I hope you got my E-Mail)

El-Sim

[apessino]

Hello El-Sim, Dan,

I have also noticed (and I agree with you) that the viola sustained sounds remain a bit on the softer side compared to the other instruments. I verified the +6dB setting for the viola in the mix tab as Dan suggested, and it is set as it should.

I boost the viola a notch in the mix (nothing too drastic, generally +1.5dB) and balance is promptly achieved.. easy enough! http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/smile.gif

Also, don\'t forget that the timbre of the viola is darker, more pinched and less penetrating than the violin (and even the cello), so at least a part of the perceived unbalance is due to the very nature of the instrument, and should be compensated for in the writing rather than in the mix.

In string quartet voicing it\'s easy to make the viola disappear, especially if the violins are playing in their mid-low range and the cello is playing in its mid-high range. This is a common problem with the alto voice of any choir, actually.

Anyhow http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/wink.gif, I agree with you that this library is a wonderful tool!

As an aside, I got the Dan Dean Solo Brass a couple of days ago, and while I have only had the time to quickly go over the various instruments I promise you are all in for a real treat!

I\'ll post a review once I spend some serious time with it (which won\'t be until sometimes in early September, I am afraid) but my initial impressions are of amazement and joy.. and I\'ll just leave it at that for the moment.. http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/wink.gif

Cheers,

A-

--------
Andrea G. Pessino (not female, just Italian)
Blizzard Entertainment

apessino@blizzard.com

[dandean]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by El-Sim:
PS-

Dan sent me the loops-
and they work pretty well-
They are really necessary in string quartet stuff-

THANKS DD
(By the way, I hope you got my E-Mail)

El-Sim<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
You sir, are most welcome. I think the loops are just okay, but I am glad you have some use for them. Also, there was a problem with help@dandeanpro.com not routing mail through properly. I apolgize if I was a bit snippy with my earlier response. Too many hours in front of \"the editor\"!

Thanks,
DD

[ally]

Hi I\'m a new user of this forum so I\'m not too sure if I\'m using it correctly any how basically I was wondering if I to could have the loop file for Dans solo strings as I have recently purchased this disk myself
cheers for any help Ally

[ally]

Er whoops sorry everyone I should of looked a bit more I\'ve just been to Dan\'s site and downloaded all the appropriate files cheers Ally

[nigel]

dear dan

how do I get in to your web page?
all I get is
\"dan dean.com pro\"

am I at the wrong address?

[Jamieh]

http://www.dandeanpro.com (\"http://www.dandeanpro.com\")

[dandean]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ally:
Er whoops sorry everyone I should of looked a bit more I\'ve just been to Dan\'s site and downloaded all the appropriate files cheers Ally

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hi,

I just checked with Garth at Chicken Systems (who knows more about this sort of stuff than I certainly do...) and if you are running Gigasampler or anything below GigaStudio 2.0, you cannot update your .gig files via articulation files. The menu option isn\'t available to you. GigaStudio 2.0+ adds the ability to import/apply articulation files, so my Solo Strings Loops, Solo Strings 1.0 and 2.0 updates, Solo Woodwinds Updates (All instruments), and Giga Bass Collection Updates will not work on older versions of Gigasampler. This is unfortunate for you users who would like to use all of the new features, but this is a backward compatibility issue with GigaSampler/GigaStudio itself.

Thanks,
Dan Dean