Great all round orch. lib for GREAT price!

[donnie]

Just thought I would would let everyone know that I am working on a re-release of the Prosonus orchestral collection for giga by Big Fish. The giga version will feature all of the source material including loads of articulations not in the akai version. This will be a full featured orchestral lbrary including tons of articulations. The best part about it is the price------ $299

This will be a great option for guys wanting the whole orchestra but who don\'t want to shell 1K plus to get it.

Make no mistake...it\'s no Dan Dean Woodwinds or UOP BUT it is much much better than AO...and much cheaper.

I\'ve also got some really cool programming tricks up my sleeve for this one too!

More later,

Donnie

[nycbhh]

Thanks for the heads-up. I\'m actually just beginning to build my library and was struggling with what general orch set to get. Do you have any general time frame in which this may be released?

Brad

[donnie]

Ok heres a little demo I did with the violin and cello sections. It\'s kind\'ve late Shostakovich sounding http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/smile.gif

Oh and these demos are all just dry midi...no external reverb!!!

****** Remember I got these files yesterday!!! ***************

Anyway I think you guys will like them.
http://www.dssoundware.com/sounds/strings.mp3 (\"http://www.dssoundware.com/sounds/strings.mp3\")

Here is an example of the wet/dry option with the mod wheel. The mod controls the amount of ambiance you get in the sample. All the sustained samples are looped and have release triggers on them for added playability.
http://www.dssoundware.com/sounds/wetdry.mp3 (\"http://www.dssoundware.com/sounds/wetdry.mp3\")

And finally, for anyone who is interested, here is the midi I used....
http://www.dssoundware.com/sounds/strings.mid (\"http://www.dssoundware.com/sounds/strings.mid\")

Donnie

[This message has been edited by donnie (edited 08-21-2001).]

[nicholash]

Donnie,

It\'s very refreshing to see that your demo has left the choice of addition of reverb to the listener, and that you have provided the midi file. I hope this sets a trend for future demos from subscribers to this board.

If web space is not a problem, it may be good to have both the non-reverbed mp3 and one with an appropriate amount of high quality reverb added. Ever since the introduction of the Roland D50 keyboard (with in-built reverb), reverb often seems to be liberally applied in an attempt to disguise the quality of samples used http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/wink.gif

Nicholas

[Chris Beck]

That\'s pretty cool, Donnie, that reverb trick.

Prosonus has always been one of my favorite libraries for Roland... it\'ll be nice to use this fancy mod-wheel-reverb native Giga version, instead of my semi-crappily converted Roland samples.

- Chris

[donnie]

Thanks Chris....it\'s just kind\'ve something I stumbled on and used with the new percussion library. I think it\'s a very useful thing to have. It\'s nice to have reverb on the sounds in your midi arrangement and you can also take it out if you want to use your own processing.

Donnie

[Thomas_J]

Hi Donnie, that\'s great news. What kind of new articulations are there?

You should put up a demo utilizing the new articulations so we can hear what\'s new! http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/smile.gif

No offense, (I\'m sure the programming is hard work), but I don\'t see the use of having a mod-wheel controlled wet/dry reverb mix. Who would want the sound of a large orchestra without reverb? Besides that was already simple to do in the akai prosonus library. You\'d just set a fixed note length for the wanted decay.

The price seems a little steep. I paid $299 for my prosonus Akai disc way back. Is there new source waveform material or simply just new programming? Could you elaborate on that, please?

Thank you.
Thomas

[Marc Floessel]

I agree with Thomas-

If the only recorded source samples are dry ones, I don\'t want any artificial pre-reverb on the product samples.

If the reverb is natural recorded on the other hand, I\'ll take everything I can get from there - excellent reverbation algorithms available or not.

[donnie]

No offense guys but did you read my initial post? I stated that the giga version will include ALL of the original source material including lots that is not in the akai or other versions.

I would also encourage you to check out the wet/dry demo again. This feature gives you complete flexibility of your sounds. I am going to great lenghts to clean up the original material and sweaten it up (which it needed).

Also Thomas, you\'ve got to be the hardest person in the world on price. There is as much material in this library as AO. I think $299 as opposed to $799 is a pretty good deal....don\'t you?

Donnie

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[leadbelly]

Donnie:

I admire your vision and desire to fill a need that is sorely lacking in the sample market. I beleive that you are emminently qualified for this job, given the quality of the other DSS libraries!

Good luck with this project.

Sincerely,

leadbelly

[donnie]

Thanks! Yeah we felt that there are plenty of really high quality sample libraries that are concentrated into one section (Dan Dean\'s stuff, Gary Garritans, etc). However there really isn\'t a good all round orchestral option for the guy who only wants to spend around $300. I think this is really going to fill that gap nicely.

I\'ll try to post articulations later today. There are a very nice assortment though including up and down marcato bows!

Donnie

[EternalBlue]

Donnie, is there a timetable for release, even an estimate? Also when can we expect more demos on the other instruments, or a full demo. It\'s certainly a promising prospect given the price difference you mentioned.

[donnie]

I would say you will see a release within a month or two at the most. I will be posting audio demos as I get them programmed. I made a lot of headway last night so I should have something up tonight.

Donnie

[Craig_L]

Donnie,

How does the Prosonius/Akai collection compare to the Roland Orchestral Family Series which I have?

Craig

[donnie]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Craig_L:
Donnie,

How does the Prosonius/Akai collection compare to the Roland Orchestral Family Series which I have?

Craig<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Craig,

I don\'t have an extensive amount of experience with the Roland libraries but I do know that they are still sought after and are considered to be workhorses in the industry. Not really sure how this one will compare but I would assume (hope) that this one will have cooler programming tricks.

Donnie

[donnie]

Ok, here is a new demo that will actually be an ongoing demo as I add instruments that have been programmed.
http://www.dssoundware.com/Prosonus.mp3 (\"http://www.dssoundware.com/Prosonus.mp3\")
http://www.dssoundware.com/Prosonus.mid (\"http://www.dssoundware.com/Prosonus.mid\")

This demo is just dry midi. Straight out of the output of GS.

Donnie

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[KingIdiot]

For $299 that library could and probably will do alot of damage http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/smile.gif



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[ryounger]

Wow! I can\'t wait until it\'s finished.
Very nice Donnie!

Russ

[Lougheed]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by donnie:
Just thought I would would let everyone know that I am working on a re-release of the Prosonus orchestral collection for giga by Big Fish. The giga version will feature all of the source material including loads of articulations not in the akai version. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Donnie,

I have the Prosonus Orchestral Collection for Kurzweil K2000/2500.

Is the Giga version that much better? Is there an upgrade path? I thought this library (Giga version) had been released, but I can\'t seem to find any audio demos at Big Fish\'s site.

Thanks,

Lawrence



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Melodialworks Music
www.lawrencelougheed.com (\"http://www.lawrencelougheed.com\")

[thesoundsmith]

Donnie, this looks like it could be just what I was waiting for. I don\'t WANNA spand $1K just for strings. (Granted they\'re GREAT strings, but for the music I make, it\'s not rational.)

I want a good orchestral set, something better than my current synths, and this sounds like it\'s the real deal.

Waiting with bated fingers...

Dasher

[ProfessorOak]

Donnie,

Please hurry while I still have $300! HA!

No really, great news. I am looking forward to this - this is a great deal! Also, I\'d really like to hear some more demos, possibly with woodwinds.

I wish there was something I could do to hurry this along. http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/wink.gif

Dale

[donnie]

Here are some demos that I have done...
http://www.dssoundware.com/sounds/debussy.mp3 (\"http://www.dssoundware.com/sounds/debussy.mp3\")
http://www.dssoundware.com/sounds/Adagio.mp3 (\"http://www.dssoundware.com/sounds/Adagio.mp3\")
http://www.dssoundware.com/sounds/Prosonus.mp3 (\"http://www.dssoundware.com/sounds/Prosonus.mp3\")

Donnie

[dwdonehoo]

Donnie, you cannot believe how happy and surprised I was after getting the Prosonus lib. The marcato strings are the best I have heard anywhere, and marcato is sooo important. Not to mention it really filled some holes in my orchestra and bolstered others. Xylophone, marimba, glockenspiel, tubular bells, tuba! Great stuff. And though I have an AKAI S5000, everything translated right over to gigs with no problems. I have had to do nearly zero program tweaking, unlike other libs (like Roland format to Akai). I took an old number I wrote some time ago that was never quite right and used the Prosonus lib for most of the stuff, mainly marcato. I liked the result so much it is now on my site as \"Introduction\". The other piece there also uses Prosonus, but to a lesser degree (marcato is Prosonus naturally, as is the glock). Great job. You cannot go wrong with this lib, not at this price.

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Radar Music
http://www.sierra-trails.com/radarmusic.html (\"http://www.sierra-trails.com/radarmusic.html\")