Hollywood Percussion

[donnie]

Ok here you go...a small taste of hollywood....just imagine a big opening with flying saucers zooming just above the earths atmosphere....well or something to that effect anyway....
http://www.dssoundware.com/sounds/hollywood 2.mp3 (\"http://www.dssoundware.com/sounds/hollywood2.mp3\")

Oh...and look it says hollywood \"2\" meaning that there could be a hollywood \"1\".....Soooo is it real or not????

Donnie

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[KingIdiot]

I dont care http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/wink.gif it sounds good http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/wink.gif

hehee

actually I\'m guessing that its fake..but its fooled me into considering that I\'m completely wrong

good idea about not posting a \"comparison\" file

I\'m really hoping this is fake cuz I\'m gonna buy Ult Orch perc this week/next week..even tho I know you guys ahve a few tricks up your sleve in the next onth or so.

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[Nick Phoenix]

sounds fine. It\'s fake, but who would know?

[Tokyo Joe]

Can I ask a really dumb question? I noticed you used the Expression controller and not the volume controller in the midi files. Now I know why you added them... it\'s just that I\'ve been using volume changes up to now. So... why the expression controller? Could some kind soul enlighten me as to the differences between the two controllers?

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[donnie]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nick Phoenix:
sounds fine. It\'s fake, but who would know?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wow! Thanks Nick....what a glowing review http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/wink.gif

Donnie

[Doug Bircher]

Tokyo,

Think of Volume as the master controller, with Expression as a subvolume controller under Volume. The result is that you can adjust the loudness and softness of any part within the song with the Expression controller, and then if you want the overall track to be louder or softer, you can use the Volume controller and then the changes you made with Expression will remain, just adjusted up or down by the changes you made with the Volume controller.

I\'m not sure that I explained it well. Hopefully it makes sense.

Doug

[Tokyo Joe]

Thanks. It makes perfect sense.

[Maarten Spruijt]

Nice percussion, Donnie. I like the snares, though I think the bass drum doesn\'t sound as it\'s supposed to in a Hollywood production. Too much mid-bass, not enough low-end bass.

Now I would like to ask the same question about my (custom) Hollywood percussion.
At http://www2.hku.nl/~maarte2/audio/openingscreen.mp3 (\"http://www2.hku.nl/~maarte2/audio/openingscreen.mp3\") you can download a small piece I wrote, called Opening Screen, which features some of my Hollywood percussion.

What do you guys (and girls) think of the realism of these samples?

Maarten Spruijt


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[Maarten Spruijt]

The same Hollywood percussion samples I mentioned in the post above I also used in another piece, called Underwater Action: http://www2.hku.nl/~maarte2/audio/underwater.mp3 (\"http://www2.hku.nl/~maarte2/audio/underwater.mp3\")
Here you can esp. hear the snare ensembles.

Maarten


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[Thomas_J]

Right on Maarten!!!!!! That\'s the way it\'s supposed to sound! The snares have that distant sound, great! The strings in the \"opening screen\" sound very real? are they? I can\'t tell, just that they seem to loop if they aren\'t http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/smile.gif Wonderful job! Congratulations. Donnie, take notice!

Thomas

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[Maarten Spruijt]

Thanks, Thomas... nothing is real in the Opening Screen piece. The string marcato samples come from Ultimate Strings. They\'re absolutely great samples in their right. You can almost achieve the same fullness has Zimmer\'s heavy marcato string passages. I also used these marcato samples in the Underwater Action piece (from 2:05 on) and in the Tijmen\'s Plot score ( http://www2.hku.nl/~maarte2/audio/tpsuite.mp3 (\"http://www2.hku.nl/~maarte2/audio/tpsuite.mp3\") (at around 1:44, just download the first few minutes).

About the snares --- you\'re right, what commercial snare samples miss, is that distant, bass-end and heavy-sounding feel. Donnie, perhaps on your new percussion library ;-)

Maarten


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[Thomas_J]

Woah then I\'m most impressed, Maarten! Great work! It\'s been a while since I listened to your underwater abyss replacement score http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/smile.gif It\'s really good until the lead guitar comes in and ruins it, especially that last note (I don\'t remember but I think its a tritone in the chord) which loops and loops :> Beautifully crafted music though!

Thomas

[Hans Adamson]

Maarten,

Which reverb are you using?

Hans

[Maarten Spruijt]

Thnx, well what IS important with using reverb in a virtual orchestration is that you not only use normal left and right panning, but also close (dry) and distant (wet) values (this way creating a 3D image, instead of a 2D image). I give each instrument group its own reverb wet/dry-ratio. This way you can make the percussion and brass sound in the back, for instance, and the violins in the front.

But this can even be achieved with a cheap reverb, as long as you\'re able to make multible, seperate reverb levels/channels. This means having a multi-channel soundcard GSIF card if using Gigastudio, or using multi-track recording software like Protools, Nuendo or Vegas after bouncing.

Maarten

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[Hans Adamson]

Thanks Maarten,

That is a good tip.

Hans

[IOComposer]

Marteen.
I have to apologize for my skepticism regarding your brass library attempts in the other thread. I hadn\'t heard any of your work so I didn\'t know if you\'d be able to do it, but now that I have, I feel pretty confident that you will! http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/smile.gif
Your music is fantastic, your sampling seems to be very well done and your mixing ability is very convincing. I can\'t wait to hear your library!

Man, I\'m going to start having to really save my money with all of this good stuff coming to market.
-J

[Maarten Spruijt]

Why do I always get that question? Is it so important? ;-)

When I bounce the whole sequence in one time (when CPU allows it) I normally use my cheap, ordinary Behringer Virtualizer Pro effect module.
When bouncing in parts (e.g. per section), to mix them back later as audio tracks, I often use the Waves Trueverb.

What\'s so special about the reverb I use then?

Maarten

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[Hans Adamson]

Maarten,

You have such good depth and imaging of the stereo field. That\'s why I asked. It is important because it makes the recording sound \"real\".

Hans

[Maarten Spruijt]

Thnx, IOComposer...

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