ARIA player sets Ambience ON at will

[Raymond62]

Though I had it set OUT, sometimes I notice that somehow ARIA player sets this AMBIENCE back to ON.

I cannot think of a reason.......

Raymond

[David (plogue)]

Though I had it set OUT, sometimes I notice that somehow ARIA player sets this AMBIENCE back to ON.

I cannot think of a reason.......

Raymond

You are using ensembles?

[Raymond62]

Is this really the reason? I setup ARIA players with instruments, saved them as ensembles, but at re-loading SONAR those ensemble names aren't there. The instruments are loaded well and I did NOT do a load ensemble.

Puzzled?

Raymond

[David (plogue)]

Is this really the reason? I setup ARIA players with instruments, saved them as ensembles, but at re-loading SONAR those ensemble names aren't there. The instruments are loaded well and I did NOT do a load ensemble.

Puzzled?

Raymond

Sonar reloads whatever state ARIA was in but it doesnt know if the old ensemble name still applies, since that old ensemble might have changed on disk between Sonar sessions.

but anyway that might not be the issue then.

What i mean is that maybe the GPO4 ensembles are made with the embeded reverb ON value, in that case it would turn it on each time you manually load an ensemble. Im not the one who made those ensembles, so its a stretch

[Raymond62]

Sonar reloads whatever state ARIA was in but it doesnt know if the old ensemble name still applies, since that old ensemble might have changed on disk between Sonar sessions.

but anyway that might not be the issue then.

What i mean is that maybe the GPO4 ensembles are made with the embeded reverb ON value, in that case it would turn it on each time you manually load an ensemble. Im not the one who made those ensembles, so its a stretch

I just checked. I am sure that all occurences of ARIA had AMBIENCE OFF the last time I worked with SONAR. They all have "empty slot" as name and they all have AMBIENCE ON.

Don't know what you mean by that last sentence, see quote.

Raymond

[Raymond62]

Proofing my point:

I set AMBIENCE off just before saving this SONAR project



http://www.box.net/shared/static/ahuc5725k9.jpg



and then I reloaded SONAR and viewed that same ARIA player, now the AMBIENCE is just on for whatever reason.

http://www.box.net/shared/static/zt0m5cenzx.jpg


So, what next?

Raymond

[EricP]

I can't reproduce this bug on our test machines. Could you send me a problematic Cakewalk file (.cwp) via email?

Cheers

[Raymond62]

Just sent a zipped version of the latest project file to your info@...... with your name in the heading.


Raymond

[EricP]

Thanks, just got it!

Looking into this issue first thing tomorrow morning.

[EricP]

I went to great lengths to reproduce your bug: Install Sonar 8.53 32 bit on a Windows7 64bit machine with your project and wasn't able "achieve" it. The reverb was actually on in your file. Turned it off, saved and restarted and everything was as it should: with the reverb off.

On the upside, when the channel reverb sends are turned down all the way (i.e. the Ambience module has nothing to process), Ambience shuts off and takes 0% CPU. I understand it's still an annoyance,so we're still investigating.

[reberclark]

I don't know if this is relevant but I had this issue in SONAR 8.5 (32bit AND 64bit) intermittently until I stopped enabling "tabbed" on my synths.

I really didn't need my soft synths or FX tabbed but made project templates early on that had these things in tabs and continued to use them and continued to have problems (including this intermittent Ambience "on" problem) especially when switching from tabbed views to track view.

Once I stopped using tabs all of these problems disappeared. It has only been a week or so, but so far - not a hitch.

Hope that helps.