Movie Music Challenge #7

[wrayer]

The Movie Challenge is up and running again. Sorry for the long delay. Reber Clark’s Movie Budget has come in and he presents us with this new challenge. Reber Clark has chosen the following clip for us to compose music.

Here are the links:

http://home.comcast.net/~reberclark/Movie Challenge 512Kbps Video 640x480.wmv (http://home.comcast.net/~reberclark/Movie%20Challenge%20512Kbps%20Video%20640x480.wmv)

http://home.comcast.net/~reberclark/Movie Challenge 512Kbps Video 640x480.mov (http://home.comcast.net/~reberclark/Movie%20Challenge%20512Kbps%20Video%20640x480.mov)

The rules of the contest are listed below.

Best of luck to you all and let’s make some movie magic!

The Rules:

1) Your entry should have substantially been created using Garritan libraries (GPO, JABB, Strad, Gofriller, Marching Band, etc. – if there are etc’a). After all, this is a Garritan Forum Challenge.

2) You must use the video clip in its entirety, "as is," without editing.

3) You may enter as many times as you'd like, as long as each entry is substantially different.

4) Rules will NOT be altered during this event, but suggestions will be accepted for the NEXT challenge.

5) You may not alter the video in anyway. To keep the challenge uniform the video clip is to be the same for all contestants.

6) The winner is chosen after the entries have been posted anonymously on the NSS forum, and the forum members have voted for their favorite in a poll. How the forum members judge which is their favorite is totally up to them.

7) The winner of the Challenge wins nothing, except the acclaim of the forum, and the honor of setting the next Challenge.

8) The Challenge Setter may enter his or her own Challenge. (Please read, yes, he or she may enter their own contest. Why not? Everyone has all the same info.)

9.) The challenge setter and participants should keep their file sizes down to facilitate portability (4 to 7 Mb).

Deadline: Friday, July 9th

Discussion: This is two weeks after the Orchestration Challenge and should offer enogh time to contestants in both arenas.

ENTRY SUBMISSIONS

Send your video files to wfrayer@roadrunner.com (moviemusic@tylerrusco.com)


ENTRY FORMAT - NEW

Format: .mov, .wmv, or .mp4 - PM if there's a problem
Resolution: 320 x 240
Video Bitrate: 256 kbps
Audio: 192 kbps Constant Bitrate 44.1 kHz Mp3
File Size: Max 10 Mb

[Jon Bryson]

Awesome clip! This should be fun! )(~

Jon

[reberclark]

This is great! Looking forward to some awesome entries! Best of luck to all.

Even though it's allowed by the rules I will not be entering this year. I think the previous winner should lay out a year.

BUT I will be viewing and voting!

Again, best of luck to all!:)

[rbowser-]

Great! Thanks for getting this together Bill and Chip. Having this going again is a great boost to the Forum.

Randy B.

[rbowser-]

OH BOY!!!! Now I've watched the clip--One of my absolute, all-time favorite monster movies from the '50's, "20 Million Miles To Earth"--created by the completely brilliant special effects wizard, Ray Harryhausen!

Brilliant. I strongly recommend people not be intimidated by the film's great original score. Don't find the film to listen to it!

MMMmmm, so juicy--1950's, rip-roarin' science fiction, scary monster stuff---LOTS to spark the musical imagination.

http://rbowser.tripod.com/ymir1.jpg

THANKS YOU GUYS!
Randy

[Raymond62]

http://theseventhvoyage.com/images/20,000%20milion%20miles/ymir1.jpg



Don't be frightened, since his marriage recently he's converted into a very nice guy.........:)

Raymond

[rbowser-]

Hi, Bill - You probably noticed some of the discussion about the Orchestration Challenge. The idea for both of these contests is to use Garritan Libraries, as you said. Indeed!

What I'm hoping is that we can allow entrants to use sound effects if they want to, just as they are allowed that in the Orchestration Challenge. Sound effects as in sounds that are totally non-musical and not to be found in Any soft synth musical libraries. Things like explosions, wind, what not.

Sound effects and music are of course mixed in almost equal parts in most movie trailers, and a monster movie clip like this really lends itself to the use of sound effects.

Something else just occurred to me - part of the film composer's challenge is to have his music work well with the sound designer's tracks, so there's also that bonus exercise if SFX are added.

I hope that sounds good to you?

Randy

[wrayer]

Randy,

I see nothing wrong with sound effects. I have added my own at times. Instruments should be Garritan unless Garritan library doesn't offer it.

Best,
Bill

[rbowser-]

Randy,

I see nothing wrong with sound effects. I have added my own at times. Instruments should be Garritan unless Garritan library doesn't offer it.

Best,
Bill
That's great, Bill. The music itself 90%+++++ Garritan is indeed critical, and really should be a no-brainer for anyone here at Gary's Forums.

Oh my - I may have to try and squeeze yet one more thing into my schedule. This clip choice is just so fun!

Thanks, Bill. I think we're set on what's supposed to happen.

Randy

[reberclark]

Bill and I discussed the possibility of having images of two people in a room, cutting back and forth with a few facial expressions then letting the composers add music to describe the inner dialog that was occurring. Lots of possibilities.

Maybe in a future offering?

[rbowser-]

replying to Darwin who said, "We're moving out onto a dangerous limb here. :eek: Sound effects are the sound designer's job, not the film composer's. Yes, the film composer may have to be aware of and accommodate what the sound designer comes up with (or at least post-production has to blend the two sources satisfactorily).

I think we could agree that the goal of these contests is to hear what musical contribution can be made to film using G.G.'s products. If effects are desired, then the clip should have any effects pre-embedded. Otherwise, the next step will be to add voice-overs and dialog. :wow:

In fact, it would be an excellent exercise for a future contest to have both sound effects and dialog but no music, i.e., find a clip that already has those elements but where the director decided the scene wouldn't have any music. ;) JMTC."

Hi, Darwin

Wellll, I don't think it's all that "dangerous" of a limb. We're having fun with this Movie Challenge again, and I think if someone entering wants sound in the clip, as if that's what he'd been given to work with, that it will just make it all the more fun. The "Cyrano" clip did have dialogue and sound effects already in it. That worked because there was no music. The SFX in this new clip couldn't be included of course because the trailer was scored.

If you don't want to add SFX, I'm sure you're not alone. But I'm glad Bill agreed that it's fine to add them though, just as it is with the Orchestration Challenge.

Randy

[rbowser-]

replying to Darwin's post, "...OK, then we'll be having a movie "soundtrack" challenge instead of a movie "music" challenge. I just want to be clear. Voiceovers should be good to go then, right? Music, sound-effects, dialog ... am I missing anything? Where did I put my Morgan Freeman patch? :p..."

--And there was more which was added after the original post, requesting that the movie clip be withdrawn so that SFX could be added to it.-------------

Darwin--The contest is fine the way it is. I doubt if anyone is bothered by anything about it, I'm certainly not. Let's relax and be perhaps a wee bit less uptight and serious about this.

I like the two faces idea, cutting back and forth, and also your idea of a long panning shot of scenery. Let's keep this event on-going so we can do all sorts of different things.

But nobody's saying SFX are "essential." I brought it up as a clarification, since in the Orchestral Challenge it's been agreed that non-musical effects are acceptable.

We're not pulling the clip and re-doing it. If you don't like this round, then just wait for the next one. Simple. But less whining, please.

Can't please everyone all the time, that's for sure!

Randy

[DarwinKopp]

Well, I really don't want to bum anyone out with my seriousness and whining, so I've deleted the offending text.

I was simply and sincerely trying to keep the focus on the music using Garritan tools.

What was I thinking? [insert sound effect of cuckoo clock chiming high noon]

[rbowser-]

In reply to Darwin's original post which he deleted, "...Randy,

Since you don't agree with me on this point, my legitimate opinion is apparently relegated to "whining". Nice. Great way to end the discussion.
This was once a pretty good forum.

Best of luck to everyone in their musical endeavors.

Bye,
Darwin"

Now I've reconstituted this odd discussion to some degree, since it's an illegitimate practice to post a string of posts and then erase them all as if we never said what we did. The below was written after I discovered my posts were left dangling. Now they're not so much, with some of Darwin's original posts reinstated. Much tidier. May we go back to our music now? Thank you. RB
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Thank you so much, Darwin, for making my posts unintelligible - By deleting all your complaints about the contest, my responses have no reference.

--edit--see above. Most of Darwin's points have been reinstated where they should have stayed.

This is an in-house little event, meant to be a fun thing for Forum members to take part in. I don't know why any details of it had to become such a hotly contested thing.

For the record, your deleted posts made it clear that you don't care for the idea of SFX being included. Fine. And you don't care for the posted movie clip itself since it's a trailer, and not something more artistic. Fine.

I think most people would simply wait for the next challenge if the current one doesn't appeal to them. Most people would have the good sense to know that nastily complaining in public about it has no point, and only causes embarrassment.

Even though your other posts were deleted, your last post makes it clear how inexplicably sour you feel about the event. Your strangely adamant stance is very clear. You might as well have left the other posts in - at least they weren't as nasty in tone.

But, my friend, you're not able to suck the fun out of this, even though you tried.

I am more than happy to take this public stance against your absurd attempt to spoil the party. When you feel like coming out to play again, all you have to do is open up the Forum and join in again. If all you can muster when you do post again is more sour negativity, I won't hesitate again to point it out in a reply. My hope is that you will again be the positive and productive Forum member you used to be.

Randy B.

[DarwinKopp]

As much as I would like to discuss this, it's no longer possible.

It was never my intent to upset you.

Peace.

[rbowser-]

As much as I would like to discuss this, it's no longer possible.

It was never my intent to upset you.

Peace.
Pleased to see you again so soon, Darwin.

There's no upset coming from here, Darwin. Something clearly upset you majorly with this contest, and I'm thinking perhaps you had a bad day and it came out on this thread.

My suggestion is that you wait until the next Movie Challenge since you dislike what's happening with this one so much. It's really not something worth so much of your energy. You don't like this one? Oh well. Shrug.

We want to keep this thing going more regularly now. It would be great to use your idea of having simply a panning shot of a landscape, or Chip's idea of intercutting two faces, with us to wonder what the dynamics are between them. Those would be lovely ideas for a film scoring challenge.

We can do it all.

And right now, we're doing 1950's Sci-Fi, even with sound effects if a participant so chooses. For those able and willing to join in, here we go. For those who don't want to join in, you can wait for the next round.

Randy

[wrayer]

Darwin makes a good point and so does Randy. Since the contest states that the winning entry chooses the material, I think what Reber has come up is fine. If the 'next' winner wants to make the challenge a purely musical challenge as in 'score-writing' than that is purely acceptable.

It's for fun... Go have some fun...

Peace to you all, now go and compose.

Best regards,
Bill

[rbowser-]

Thanks for your post, Bill.

"...It's for fun... Go have some fun..."

Exactly right! Everyone go forth and compose-- with composure!

Randy

[reberclark]

...hmmm...fun...fun?...fun!....FUN....F U N !!!

I remember FUN!!:wow::))(~

[wrayer]

Fun because we bump!

[rbowser-]

http://www.dreadcentral.com/img/reviews/20mill2b.jpg

WHAT DO YOU MEAN I CAN'T CARRY A TUNE?! TAKE IT BACK!!!

RB

[reberclark]

That's the spirit we're lookin' for!

[reberclark]

http://home.comcast.net/~reberclark/20MillionMilesEarth.jpg

[rbowser-]

Whoops--Looks like you found a photo that doesn't have hot-linking available. The link in the auto-email took me to the Mad Monsters site, but not the specific .jpg. OH well.

The Ymir!--That's the name of this super cool Harryhausen monster. Love it.

Randy

[reberclark]

Should be fixed now. AAAUUGGH!!

[Michael135]

This is so corny it's going to be hard to be even the slightest bit serious about this composition... All I can think of is "The March of the Gladiators" every time I watch it. :p

[reberclark]

This is so corny it's going to be hard to be even the slightest bit serious about this composition... All I can think of is "The March of the Gladiators" every time I watch it. :p Go forth and write it!)(~:)

[rbowser-]

"...Go forth and write it!..."

um, but somebody already wrote "March of the Gladiators."

http://dixieugadawg.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/0000-5234-4ringling-brothers-circus-performing-elephant-posters.jpg

Randy

[reberclark]

um, but somebody already wrote "March of the Gladiators."

Randy

Okay...well...go forth and write "April of the Gladiators." :p

[wrayer]

Make sure they are Gargantuan Gladiators though.

Bill

[reberclark]

BUMP!

So how we doin'?

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/4/2010/05/161eeeb23c5d50a7aed0de8d074e5de3/original.jpg

[reberclark]

Make sure they are Gargantuan Gladiators though.

Bill

Gargantuan Garritan Gladiators!

[rbowser-]

ooooooooh, now there's another one of my BIG faves from the '50's. "It Came From Outer Space" is just great, one of the earliest "people possessed by alien beings" plots. Seeing that title card makes me want to see the movie again. HEY, it's in my collection - I'll put it on!

Nostalgic Randy

[wrayer]

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:o3p0CQKlAdnVHM:http://tbn0.google.com/hosted/images/c%3Fq%3D3c347c2e12449cb4_large (http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://tbn0.google.com/hosted/images/c%3Fq%3D3c347c2e12449cb4_large&imgrefurl=http://images.google.com/hosted/life/l%3Fimgurl%3D3c347c2e12449cb4&usg=__Nei_CDy10lMHPdE_tT6lAa-oNLU=&h=1246&w=1280&sz=160&hl=en&start=23&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=o3p0CQKlAdnVHM:&tbnh=146&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dit%2Bcame%2Bfrom%2Bouter%2Bspace%2Bpi cs%26start%3D20%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26rlz% 3D1T4ADRA_enUS351US352%26ndsp%3D20%26tbs%3Disch:1)



Gee, and I always thought the movie was about my mom. She always gave me that EVIL EYE!

You all have a lot of time to put music to reberclarks clip. If you have questions, please feel free to ask.

Best regards,
Bill

[rbowser-]

NIIIIICe one, Bill--There it is, the "It" in "It Came From Outer Space." I remember the shocking jolt I got the first time I saw that thing. For most of the movie, whenever the creature was in a scene, you'd see things from its point of view, distorted images through its gelatinous eye - or you'd see its shimmering, slug-like trail it would leave behind. Then towards the end, you saw it a few times like in your picture. Great stuff.

---See how excited I get about these neat old movies? :D

Randy

[swinkler]

BUMP

Just got back from vacation and wondered how everyone was doing on this challenge.

Lots of good activity on the forum lately which is great to see!

Steve Winkler

[reberclark]

Only one month to go!

Deadline: Friday, July 9th

Discussion: This is two weeks after the Orchestration Challenge and should offer enogh time to contestants in both arenas.

ENTRY SUBMISSIONS

Send your video files to wfrayer@roadrunner.com (moviemusic@tylerrusco.com)


ENTRY FORMAT - NEW

Format: .mov, .wmv, or .mp4 - PM if there's a problem
Resolution: 320 x 240
Video Bitrate: 256 kbps
Audio: 192 kbps Constant Bitrate 44.1 kHz Mp3
File Size: Max 10 Mb

[wrayer]

Hope you all are working on your Movie Music. 25 days to go...

[wrayer]

Bumping to top - 3 weeks to go.

[reberclark]

Can't wait to hear what's been done! How many have sent stuff in so far (if you can reveal)?

[wrayer]

2 so far reberclark - come on gang, we need your support. It really is fun to try!

[reberclark]

Can't wait to see all the entries! I know people are working hard at their Movieolas­® producing fantastic phantasms of filmic epicosity.

http://bioscope.biz/cm/images/098-magnasync.jpg

[wrayer]

Vote for the Orchestral Challenge #24 and then turn in your cimemagic treat by July 9th - I am looking forward to these premieres.

Best,
Bill

[wrayer]

5 days to enter this exciting challenge! Let's go Forum. Join the fun...

[wrayer]

CRUNCH Time... Only 3 days left to get in your entry!

[reberclark]

can't wait to hear these.

[wrayer]

Well, the days are numbered. Don't you want to be a part of this. After all, you all love the movie drama of the challenges. Not your cup of tea? Maybe a creative piece without a melody is too much of a challenge.

Ok, I am bad. So throw me off this forum. Come on, we need participants.

Argghhh! OK got that off my chest!

[rbowser-]

Ooh, this isn't boding too well for a big turn out. When Chip asked awhile back, you said there were two entries, Bill -- maybe that's about it?

Well, maybe an industrious soul will roll up his/her sleeves and whip out a fun one in the two days left for this contest.

I don't think we should be tempted into extending the deadline though. It's really been a very long time. Maybe too long? Maybe we should do these in half the time, get people more motivated with a looming deadline. Hmmm, maybe.

Randy

[reberclark]

Let's wait it out, maybe someone is furiously working to get their entry done.

But...maybe not. I say let's just run it like it was presented whether there are 2 entries or 22. Each challenge is different.

Here's hopin'.

[wrayer]

Entries due tomorrow - 12 midnight Hawaii time or further...

[Michael135]

I really really wanted to do something for this, but just haven't had the time to commit to such a project. I'll definitely try for the next one.

[wrayer]

Michael, that's OK we'll look for you next time around.

Best,
Bill

[RustyCrook]

Deadline: Friday, July 9th


Hi Bill and Everyone,

Can we assume that the deadline timezone on July 9th is of our choosing? :D

Thanks,

Ken

[RustyCrook]

Hi Bill and Everyone,

Can we assume that the deadline timezone on July 9th is of our choosing? :D

Thanks,

Ken

Oops, I see that you've already answered this question (yes).

[wrayer]

Ok the entries are in: I have contacted Tony to set up the polling and that will occur as he has time. We appreciate your efforts Tony.

To all the entrants: Good Luck and I hope you enjoyed this exercise.

To the forum members: Enjoy and please take the time to vote

For your early perusal here are the entries: I apologize, but you will have to download them to play them.

Entry #1 (http://www.box.net/shared/3s71yut6ah)

Entry #2 (http://www.box.net/shared/mq0m2d0mvj)

Entry #3 (http://www.box.net/shared/tzzymif6e5)

Best of luck to all, now all of you grab a bag of popcorn, sit back and enjoy the movies!

Bill

[reberclark]

WOW Fantastic! These entries are great! Excellent job everybody.

[rbowser-]

So 3 brave souls emerge from the chaos and destruction wrought by the hideous Venutian monster! Hail mighty composers and your demonstrations of outstanding bravery!

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A little later on, I think it would be good for us to put our heads together and try coming up with a revised, simplified version of this event. I feel we could make it be something more practical for people to participate in - Shorter video clips perhaps, shorter time between start and finish of the event, things like that.

And there could be a general problem with the technicalities involved in scoring to video. Most of us have music apps which provide scoring, but I'm positive many people haven't ever explored the possibilities of what they have, and may be a bit too intimidated to try.

I still haven't done very much scoring to video - but the few times I've done it, I've really enjoyed the learning process. So, I hope we can find ways to encourage more people to do the same.

Meanwhile - Let's keep this thread up to the top so people have a chance to see the entries! One advantage of having only 3 versions of a 1 1/2 minute clip - EVerybody can take the time to take a look/listen.

Randy

[reberclark]

I'm with you Randy. I'd love to be in on these discussions. Maybe some sort of tutorial could be involved utilizing basic video editors like Windows Movie Maker, etc. My first attempts at video editing, and adding audio to it, were done with the software which comes with the OS.

I hope eveyone has fun listening to and voting for these entries!

[Michael135]

Personally, I think it would be cool to score some more modern trailers. Even if I was able to take the time to sit down and score something like this, I think the pure cheesiness of it would make it a very difficult job.

[reberclark]

Personally, I think it would be cool to score some more modern trailers. Even if I was able to take the time to sit down and score something like this, I think the pure cheesiness of it would make it a very difficult job.


Michael, I agree to an extent (but then I love cheesiness ;)). The problem with modern trailers is the rights and permissions. Now, if someone knew how to work that part of it that would be great! In the past I think we've limited the contest to Public Domain trailers from places like Internet Archive so that we don't step on any legal toes.

Additionally, anyone beginning to score film or video (whether independent, student or whatever) is gonna have to deal with some bad movies and a bit o' cheese.

http://melissamccart.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/cheese.jpg

[rbowser-]

HA! You beat me to it, Chip - Your new post is virtually the same as what I wanted to point out. We do have to be careful about copyright, despite the younger generation not always grasping the importance of that. And using a modern trailer has an equally impractical problem - the material is apt to be too familiar with people. Who would want to compete with and try to re-write what a pro Hollywood composer has already done?

The idea of us making our own little video is interesting--along the lines of just cutting back and forth between two faces, trying to suss out what drama is lurking behind the apparent interaction. Or someone suggested awhile back that we have just scenic shots. Really, we could seriously consider doing simple shots with our cams and then putting them together into something wide open to musical interpretation. Maybe just a string of seemingly unrelated shots begging for music to make some sense of it - After all, trailers nowadays tend to be a collection of such seemingly unconnected bits.

Excellent point you brought up also (excellent because it's something else I came here to say--hehe)--about how a film composer would best be open to working with any and all kind of material, and any and all kind of musical genres. A good film composer can't afford to have limited tastes or a limited understanding of bygone eras.

Closing thought - one man's Cheese is another man's Steak. One man's Ambrosia is another man's Garbage - and so on.

Randy

[rolifer]

These are 3 excellent entries, but I know which one I will vote for once the polling thread is ready. Congrats to all three of the participants.

I did download the movie and planned on doing it with all GPO over my short vacation from school, but health issues kept me from being able to compose during that time frame. But when I first downloaded it, I had just finished a different video, so I threw together something fairly quick and while it does use some GPO, it doesn't use mostly GPO, so I did not enter this version and have ran out of time to do another one. If anyone is interested in my version, it can be found on my composersforum page, titled as "The Beast".

http://composersforum.ning.com/profile/RonaldFerguson

Feel free to laugh as this was done with humor in mind.

Well done to all

Ron

[rbowser-]

Well I'll be - I just had a Ron Rolifer sighting! Almost as rare to see a UFO as to see Rolifer here in General Discussion.

And it's Excellent to see you again, old friend.

---Interesting story--except for the part about you having health problems. Very sorry to hear that--All is well again I trust?

And now we have an un-official entry in this "20 Million Miles" event - that's a first, I'm sure!

I've just returned from the Composer's Forum - Wild stuff, my friend - very well living up to my expectations to always be entertained by your wild musical excursions. Thanks for letting us know about it.

Take care - come back soon?!

Randy

[rolifer]

Randy

My hearing is almost back to normal now. I had a bit of a scare as I was afraid that this time I had lost it for good. One of these times it won't come back and I will lose my one great joy in life.

I do try to stop by from time to time. I love pickin' up all of the freebies, including the Kitchen sink which I grabbed tonight.

A lot of the pieces I have been doing lately require more of that Hollywood feel so I use a number of those other libraries with GPO mixed in for good measure. I still try to compose an all GPO piece from time to time but my kids at school keep me pretty busy 11 months a year.

Thanks as always my friend for taking the time to check out my work and I think I have picked yours in this challenge. But then I always think I have picked yours but rarely seem to do so.

Ron

[rbowser-]

Randy

My hearing is almost back to normal now. I had a bit of a scare as I was afraid that this time I had lost it for good. One of these times it won't come back and I will lose my one great joy in life.

I do try to stop by from time to time. I love pickin' up all of the freebies, including the Kitchen sink which I grabbed tonight.

A lot of the pieces I have been doing lately require more of that Hollywood feel so I use a number of those other libraries with GPO mixed in for good measure. I still try to compose an all GPO piece from time to time but my kids at school keep me pretty busy 11 months a year.

Thanks as always my friend for taking the time to check out my work and I think I have picked yours in this challenge. But then I always think I have picked yours but rarely seem to do so.

Ron
Hearing problems--omg. I don't wish for you to try and live out the stories of Beethoven composing music while sitting under a tree, unable to hear what he was writing - No, I wish for you instead a cessation to these episodes. I'm very sorry you went through that, Ron. It's impossible for me to even imagine the kind of scare you went through.

HA! You grabbed my wacky "Kitchen Sink"---glad to hear that. Maybe there's something in there you can use sometime - Try the Toy Ray Gun patch, distort that, play it backwards - lots of possibilities with that unique friction toy grating sound. --as I said in my notes, it's admittedly the only sound not really from my kitchen, but it was sitting close by on a shelf as I was walking back to the kitchen during one of my trips to find more sound-producing stuff.
Then there are some odd sounding loops that are fairly impossible to identify just by listening to them--Pepper grinder, drinking straw, getting chips out of a bag. Rumbling kind of loops that could be layered into an appropriate piece.

I had a great time hearing your unusual piece done for the sci-fi clip. Not a genre sound from the era of the film, but obviously that wasn't your intention. The fury and humor of what you did really was entertaining.

--Interesting last paragraph - You're assuming I contributed one of the three entries. Interesting. I'll say that I enjoyed things in all three of them - But really, there was just the one time when it turned out I'd done a piece for this Movie Challenge and you voted for one which you said later you thought could be me, but it wasn't. Only once - It's not as if you actually can't usually recognize my work, as I feel I can usually recognize yours.

Thanks again for dropping by - It's a sleepier Forum than it was a year or so ago. It's always good to see someone perking things up a bit, like you've done with your post.

Randy