GigaStudio, is it so cool?

[tinerelu]

Hi,

Does anybody know about a demo (crack?) version of the GigaStudio?
I do NOT want to rip people off (i.e.Nemesys), but before buying a registered copy, I feel it is fair to have a chance to test it. How is it behaving?...

No offence, I really want to BUY it AFTER testing! (Once opened a software box, it is yours, no return accepted, isn\'t it?)

tinerelu

[mihmar]

Hey,
Tinerelu, I haven\'t heard about such a thing (i.e.\"demo/crack\" of GSt), but why don\'t you visit a local dealer or so?

I understand your frustration to buy something you cannot test before.

bye
mihmar

[Freud]

I know there is a cracked versions of GSampler, and i must say that i propably wouldn\'t have bought the program incase i\'d never gotten the the chance to try it out first. i know it\'s illegal, sorry nemesys, but i\'m not in the position where i can spend lots of bucks on a product not knowing if it will work properly on my system at all.
an available trial version from nemesys would be in the best interest of the company.
I will propably try out a cracked version of Gstudio too before bying it.
sue me.

Freud

[PaPa Chalk]

hey Guys We do not endorse illegal software here. If you can tell us what area your from maybe we can let you know where there is a dealer you can try it out at. gigasampler products are very affordable (any where between $99 to $699)at any nemesys authorized dealer. I don\'t know of any sampler in that price range right now. You can\'t lose with those prices.
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[ernstj]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by PaPa Chalk:
[B]You can\'t lose with those prices.

Hi!
I must say I agree and disagree at the same
time. The gigasampler appears to have very
high performance requirements on the
hardware.
It would be nice to find out about potential
problems before buying the package.
Why not distribute a free demo (which might
play only 1 fixed sound only on Channel 1 and
with no edit features)?


I still have the problem (accidentally posted
in the sound card section) that the sounds I
playback are stuttering unless I keep the
\"Config\" window open or play through the
instrument editor. - Both of which prevents
me from using the capture feature.

Although this may be a configuration problem,
I suspect the program doesn\'t like my hard-
ware configuration.

Best regards,
Jens.

[czarkovin]

Supposedly, Guitar Center is supposed to have
demo copies of Gstudio working. Maybe Nemesys can make sure that that is really happening.

[rivethead]

I actually bought Gigasampler LE for $79. It was either Sweetwater.com, or computersandmusic.com... Either one, my local dealer matched the price.

Beware of a guy on one of the auction sites. He claims to sell Gigasampler full version for $30. Says it comes in a jewel case with no markings, manual in PDF format, and installation instructions are included... Methinks he\'s just selling a radium version, he wouldn\'t return any of my emails when I questioned him about this...

[ronlucas00]

I think Nemesys should make a demo. Maybe it would just run for 5 minutues so someone could see how it works on their system.

I\'m a user who didn\'t buy GigaSampler last year because I couldn\'t see the darn thing in action, anywhere. I finally took a risk and purchased it just to see. But, what a risk that is since most places won\'t take back software even if it doesn\'t work on your system.

Because Nemesys does not offer a demo, I believe they are loosing possible customers. It\'s too bad, because I really, really love this program and want to see Nemesys grow and grow.

A proud GigaStudio160 owner,
Ron

[migo]

Before I bought GStaudio 96, I went to a popular music store, here in Ottawa, Canada, called Steve\'s Music. Not surprisingly, they had a full version installed on one of their computers in order for customers to \"try before you buy\". I had the opportunity to compare GStudio and RAM based samplers. The GPiano and the Advanced Orchestra convinced me that GStudio was by far, to my ears anyway, the better sampler.

But, I agree. For those of you, for whatever reason, cannot go to a music store where you could demo the GStudio, then Nemesys should make a demo CD and either sell it dirt cheap or have one available for download. They do have a demo of the GPiano though, and it sounds good.

[PeterR]

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gigasampler products are very affordable (any where between $99 to $699)at any nemesys authorized dealer. I don\'t know of any sampler in that price range right now. You can\'t lose with those prices.
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I do not agree with the price argument!
I built a complete PC dedicated for the Giga programs: a PIII-550, all Intel chips, 512 Mb Ram, 2 speedy UDMA66 Maxtors, etc. AGP video not to hog the PCI bus, etc. If you add the (i paid the original!) price for GigaSampler, I think this is still expensive stuff.
You don\'t get a complete sampler for a few hundreds bucks, you have to add specific hardware to get the right performance

Furthermore, for this money you also buy quite a significant risk for time-consuming problems, whereas a hardware sampler is a lot more reliable. I bought the GSt upgrade, and it simply does not even start (crashes). I am forced to spend several hours trying to install, clean the machine, revert to GigaSampler, try to contact Nemesys, etc. I a lucky to know quite a lot about hard- and software (being a sr. software engineer/designer). I wouldn\'t recommended this to someone just starting with PC\'s.

I still like GigaSampler for what it offers to me (I use mainly Adv. Orch. : great!), but I will probably wait for the next (FREE!!!) update/patch for GigaStudio.

Regards to all!
Peter Roos
The Netherlands

[ondrej]

Hello everybody!
I would like to join your discussion on this topic.
I definitely suggest that Nemesys makes a demo. I think it is not so much matter of to see how the program looks (indeed I can go to some music shop and try it out there, compare it with hardware samplers or whatever). Far more important is to find out whether the program works with available hardware. There is no substitute for demo of the real version!
I took the Nemesys official way of doing things. I bought a LE version for DM 250,- (ca $120,-) and than spent three weeks trying to make it work with Yamaha DSP Factory (Yamaha claims it does work).
After that I gave up, and for another DM 130,- bought SBL Live Player. It worked and so I decided to update to GSt96 + Advanced Orchestra (another DM 1500,-). Apart from being completely different program than the LE (which is therefore completely useless as \"How it looks and works\"-Demo) the GSt would also not output to the SBL live (DirectX driver) despite the fact that nothing has changed in my computer and all other programs access the SBL without any problems. Just to be sure I deinstalled the GSt and installed the LE again and... it works beautifully.
Maybe, after another couple of weeks I will find some solution, maybe I will have to spend couple of hundreds Mark more. But maybe I will not make it work, and than I am stuck with 8 CD which cost me around DM 2000,- but I can do absolutely nothing with. Not to mention the enormous amount of time it has already cost me trying to make this thing work. Is this what you mean PaPaChalk, when you say I can\'t loose anything with these prices? I can assure you that $1000,- is really a lot of money for me. And I know that hardware sampler would cost me more than Gigasampler. Don\'t get me wrong, I am not complaining that the Gigasampler is not free of problems (although I wish it was). But what is the problem with demo? Is there fear, that given the chance to try it out and meet all the problems first nobody would buy your product? Or is there anything else I should know?
Ondrej

[Bill]

When you install GS or GSt, it can be used for several days without registering. You can return it at this point for a full refund, or... you can register.

So, while it’s not a demo in the usual sense (as you’re money’s on the line), it is a way to try the program out, make sure it runs on your hardware, that you like it, and still bail out if the answer’s “no”.


[This message has been edited by Bill (edited 06-21-2000).]

[Chadwick]

If the dealer will refund you for the unregistered software, that\'s great.
Otherwise, seeing as the hardware demands of the Full GS160 and Le versions are different, Nemesys should simply make a time limited or crippled version of the GS 160 for people to try.

A warning about the crack that is floating around. I just read a faq for the Egosys Waveterminal in which the tech guys said that their product worked perfectly with true Gigastudio, but that the cracked version blue screened and generally screwed up. They had no explanation, but I would suspect that it\'s the nature of cracks to be different enough from the real deal that these things can happen. Don\'t assume the crack will work the same as the genuine article.

[tinerelu]

Chadwick,
Was it about the GigaStudio or GigaSampler?
tinerelu

[Endicott]

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[This message has been edited by Endicott (edited 09-08-2001).]

[Chadwick]

Gigasampler

[Chadwick]

Sorry - -I was answering tinerelu\'s query as to whether Egosys\' warning on problems with a cracked version which didn\'t appear when they tried the real thing. He wanted to know whether the crack was of Gigasampler or Gigastudio - it was in fact Gigasampler.

[mitchb2]

I think Nemesys is smart for NOT offering a demo.

Imagine, you get a demo of a program, which requires endless hours of tweaking and research just to get it to run...would you really run out and buy it?

Besides, Nemesys couldn\'t possibly offer tech support for the thousands of people wanting to know how to make it run.

[Deep White]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by PaPa Chalk:
gigasampler products are very affordable (any where between $99 to $699)at any nemesys authorized dealer. I don\'t know of any sampler in that price range right now. You can\'t lose with those prices.

Well, I\'m not for the guys that want illegal copies, but I must say that, in response to the comment above, I don\'t know of any sampler that cost me over 2,000 dollars for its I/O (Mixtreme + SS8IO-1, but they\'re worth it); besides, costing me all the time during crashes and experimenting better ways to avoid pops during playback and all the other bugs.

[Deep White]

If there had been a GigaStudio\'s demo, I believe I\'d still be using my GigaSampler right now. It\'s really been painful to get it to work. It still is now.
But I AM working with GigaStudio 160. Just because it\'s not a demo, just because I\'ve paid for it, and just because there\'s no way for refunding, I\'ve GOT to make it work. And it does work, despite now I have to mix everything from GSt to 2track so that I can do vocal and guitar tracking without problem, it just works.
What would I do if I had a choice? I\'ll still buy it. I got beautiful sounds like Steinway B, Larry Seyer\'s Upright Acoustic Bass, Giga Harp, the Symphonic Organ, which no other sampler can offer.

I had problems with early Cakewalk, but I bought it, I had to work it out. Now I can\'t do without it. I believe it\'s the same for me with GigaStudio.

Well, but hoping not for long, please, Nemesys?