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falcon1
02-13-2003, 02:50 AM
Hi all,
I need choir lib to use on my motets, chorals and masses.
Is VOTA the only wise option or are there other as good or better libs out there?
Please advise.
Btw. I\'ve limited budget.
BlueNote
02-13-2003, 07:30 AM
I would go with VOTA (but then I already have images/icons/smile.gif )
The only other option, as I see it, is Symphony of Voices. Only available in roland and akai format. Great library.
Get them both images/icons/wink.gif
Seriously, I think VOTA is what you are looking for. As for your budget- try to catch a sale at www..com (\"http://www..com\") (they appear from time to time) I got mine there at 20% off.
I wanted to send you a private message on this but I\'m totally new to this board and do not know how so forgive me if I\'m \"promoting\" or spamming the room but I found The best price for both Voices of the Apocalypse and Sypmphony of voices to be at www.midi-classics.com (\"http://www.midi-classics.com\") . It truely sounds like they used this choir in the likes of E.S. Posthumus \"unearthed\" cd. Check out the trailor for Spiderman or the first Lord of the rings trailor to get a better idea of what it sounds like. They used Symphony of voices in parts of Armagedon ( Rocket launch comes to mind) Good luck and enjoy because i think they are both worth it, personally I\'m more into the epic sounding Vota! graemlins/tounge_images/icons/smile.gif
dougrogers
02-13-2003, 09:14 AM
Originally posted by falcon1:
Hi all,
I need choir lib to use on my motets, chorals and masses.
Is VOTA the only wise option or are there other as good or better libs out there?
Please advise.
Btw. I\'ve limited budget. <font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">Falcon,
There is a Giga only sale happening next week at www..com. (\"http://www..com.\")
Click on the banner that will be there from Monday for details.
Take care,
Doug Rogers
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EASTWEST
www..com (\"http://www..com\")
PolarBear
02-13-2003, 09:56 AM
Just in case you didn\'t see (which I doubt) and want to hit the \"buy\" button that fast:
http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=004278#000000 (\"http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=004278#000000\")
http://www.northernsounds.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=003612 (\"http://www.northernsounds.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=003612\")
and/or do a search for the specific library on the forum. Apart from that, anyone knows if a new choir library is coming in future?
Hansi
KingIdiot
02-13-2003, 12:56 PM
yellow Tools was working on one for quite sometime.
I haven\'t heard squat about it lately tho.
There\'s also the new Miroslav one which isn\'t really impressing many people for the price.
Extended Classical Choir from Siedleczeck is another \"cheap\" option. It sounds quite nice, tho not epic. Problem is the male and female voices are combined into one sample.
I think your best option is to go for both SOV and VotA. a combination of them should yeild the best results. Using the solo voices in SOV can help too. Also with any of these suckers, to get the most realism have someone sing a solo line or three over the top of the lib. It will sound 20 times more realistic....that is until someone does some solo voices to work with the VSL legato tool. (drool)
falcon1
02-13-2003, 04:26 PM
Is possible (\"easy\") to make SOV sing words? My motets doesn\'t always have \"standard\" latin words like amen, halleluja etc.
And is it easy to convert SOV to giga format? Any plans from Spectrasonics to publish SOV on VSTi or pure Giga format?
Unfortunatly I\'m very limited on budget so I can\'t buy both SOV and VOTA, even though I want to.
Btw. my PC is getting old so if these libs requires the state of the art computers to run ok then I need to save some more bucks. images/icons/grin.gif
KingIdiot
02-13-2003, 04:32 PM
I believe the only ones with consonants are ECC, VOTA, and possibly Miroslav (not sure about that last one)
with all of them the best results will come from layering a real voice on top IMO
enough acronymns in this one?
Netvudu
02-13-2003, 05:03 PM
well, you lost the chance to say MVCC, King images/icons/grin.gif
\"All SOV,VOTA,PSīs ECC and MVCC are good libs, but for using .GIG format and words construction VOTA sounds like the real deal even if youīll have to learn some VOTOX to make a good use of Nunoīs WB.\"
Sorry, couldnīt resist graemlins/tounge_images/icons/smile.gif
falcon1
02-14-2003, 02:27 PM
Why is SOV more expensive than VOTA? Is it in higher quality? More stuff?
KingIdiot
02-14-2003, 03:42 PM
there is definitely more variety of different choirs in SOV
boys choir
pop staccs
mens choir
female choir
gregorian chants ( I believe)
solo voices
in VotA its
female choir
Mens Choir
female \"angels\"
Mens \"demons\"
but VotA has more vowels and consonants I believe (not sure about what vowels SoV has since I dont own it, but I\'m pretty sure there are no consonants outside of the sampled \"phrases\")
dougrogers
02-14-2003, 03:52 PM
dougrogers
02-14-2003, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by KingIdiot:
but VotA has more vowels and consonants I believe (not sure about what vowels SoV has since I dont own it, but I\'m pretty sure there are no consonants outside of the sampled \"phrases\") <font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">VOTA is the only library that comes with a utility that enables you to type the words you want the choir to sing! V2.0 of that utility will be released soon that really simplifies the process.
Plus, if you\'re on a budget VOTA will be on sale next week (as will all Giga titles) at www..com (\"http://www..com\")
Doug Rogers
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EASTWEST
www..com (\"http://www..com\")
I hope the sale is better than your compitition at www.midi-classics.com (\"http://www.midi-classics.com\") cause I was like 2 seconds away from ordering from them until I stumbled upon your forum! graemlins/tounge_images/icons/smile.gif images/icons/grin.gif
Netvudu
02-14-2003, 05:31 PM
I still wonder why not ALL sample libs show complete listings (such as those showed usually at the back of the CD) of their products on their sites.
I mean, itīs the BEST way to compare one product with another. As good as this libs must be, when I donīt see such listings I always think bad of the lib...itīs only logical one wants to know EXACTLY whatīs going to buy.
In these aspect congratulations to ILIO for showing precise and complete listings of the libs on their catalog. Theyīre an example to follow.
steve_t
02-14-2003, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by falcon1:
Btw. I\'ve limited budget. <font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">Maybe ProSamples Vol 13 Choirs might be something then. Its cheap images/icons/smile.gif
PS13 (\"PS13\")
http://www.bestservice.de/ (\"http://www.bestservice.de/\")
falcon1
02-14-2003, 06:39 PM
Is ProSamples Vol 13 Choirs good? Can I let it sing out custom words?
And where can I get full list of the content of the lib?
I think the Pro Samples choirs cd is just a cut down version of Best Services Extended Choirs lib - which has been out for a while.
... but I could very possibily be wrong about all of the above images/icons/grin.gif
Ed
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