<font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">I found a Dover score for Beet 5, 6 and 7 at a second hand book store and the tempo for the 5 was marked as half note = 108. That\'s smokin\'.Originally posted by Nick Phoenix:
Beethoven\'s 5th was written at tempo 109. I slowed my rendition down to around 105. Every famous recording of the 5th, that I could find was between 105 and 109 and was also VERY dynamic, so what are you talking about?
Dover is known to take popular renditions of PD scores and simply copy and publish. Sometimes they\'ll also take popular recordings and mark the score tempos according to that.
So it\'s entirely possible that your performance uses a score and reference performances that are based on a popularized method of playing the piece - without the tempo marking following the general interpretation that is considered to be consistent with the time period of Beethoven\'s original work (say, 1807 or so). That\'s not all that uncommon. \"Allegro con brio\" at the time of the more popular scores (say mid 20th century) for this might have been significantly faster than the original interpretation (early 19th c.).
My reference for \"Pines of Rome\" lasts more than 22 minutes, but the score I\'m using calls for it to be ~20 min. Does 22\' \'and change\' qualify as \"about 20 minutes\"? Well, as it turns out, there happens to be more than one rendition that folks consider \"definitive\" - and you guessed it - the other one comes in right at 20 minutes.
The same goes for my Barber\'s \"Adagio\" scores, which state the piece should be around 7.8 minutes, but every performance I have (including some arranged for voice) are ALL in excess of 9 minutes. My question now is - is the timing marker from Samuel Barber himself, or was the mark created from a well-known performance? Barber is a \"modern\" composer, and is known to put metronome markings right in his scores. The earlier works are not as apt to drop numbers in, as common parlance of the time had a more \"strict\" and intuitive association with \"word terms\" and tempo.
This gets into territory where I\'ve seen my composition instructor argue with other professors about the vintage of a particular performance and whether it truly represents the composer\'s or the conductor\'s vision. Quite frankly, it\'s more of an endless loop than arguing over which virtual orchestra is better. [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img]
So this is my public call-out. I\'d like to hear a snippet of demo contributer\'s reference pieces, just to get a picture of what they were targeting. You don\'t need to post the entire work, but perhaps a 20-30 second snippet of a section (or sections) that indicate a place that your library performs particularly well.
In case you are concerned, this would fall under \"fair use\" of a copyrighted work, in that the snippets should not be considered a substantial amount of the original work - and we are using the material for purposes of critique - both clauses in the fair use provision.
[Side Note: This was originally posted in the EW forum, before I realized where I was and expected that my post would be deleted before it was read. So I opted to start a new thread here.]