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    Bach's Badinerie (from Suite in B Minor)

    This is not a very original piece on this forum, but an attempt to use a lot of musical material in one small piece as a learning process. I don't need to explain what the Badinerie is, everyone knows...

    "What did I do with it" is a far mor interesting topic. Here it comes:


    • The notes were delivered by a Finale demo (the easiest part of the job).
    • I had to correct the continuo (which was terrible) and adjust the flute (trills, phrasing).
    • The instrument choice and first approach happened in Finale 2014 and VSL SE (+ flute full VSL).
    • Then, I exported to midi.
    • I imported the midi file into Logic Pro X.
    • From there, I did all the tweaking work and the keyswitches, equalising, effects, basic mixing.
    • The next step was Mir Pro to give the instruments a seat and a place on the stage (ORF virtual studio).
    • Final mixing
    • Output through VSL MIRacle to smoothen the ambience.
    • Export as wave file and as mp3 from Logic, with normalising.



    That's about it.

    Enjoy the piece (once more)

    Max

    Badinerie

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    Re: Bach's Badinerie (from Suite in B Minor)

    Extremely well done. The ambience and instrumental balance is quite excellent.

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    Re: Bach's Badinerie (from Suite in B Minor)

    Hi Max.
    What a pleasure to listen to a not a very original piece when it is performed the way you did.
    I agree with Tom, ambience and balance are excellent.
    There's not much low frequencies in it, but, you know, I am not such an expert in continuo treatment.
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    Re: Bach's Badinerie (from Suite in B Minor)

    Thank you, Tom and Fabio,

    This is mainly a valuable study object to me (here and now - otherwise, it's of course a most valuable piece of Bach's genius), because it has a very subtle balance and straightforward interpretation. (I noticed however a small faulty note in one of the flute runs. In a second version I will correct it.

    As to the lower part of the continuo fundamental bass), there are no double basses, only 2 cellos and the harpsichord bass. So, I didn't want to boost that part, to keep it fresh and vivacious.

    Thanks for your comments,

    Max

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    Re: Bach's Badinerie (from Suite in B Minor)

    Quote Originally Posted by Max Hamburg View Post
    As to the lower part of the continuo fundamental bass), there are no double basses, only 2 cellos and the harpsichord bass. So, I didn't want to boost that part, to keep it fresh and vivacious.
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    Re: Bach's Badinerie (from Suite in B Minor)

    Very nicely done Max! I really enjoyed the listen. The instruments blended very well. Thanks for sharing. Jay

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    Re: Bach's Badinerie (from Suite in B Minor)

    Nice work Max.

    As a Logic Pro user I would like to know if you used LP to get the ambience or some other source? If you did use LP for this, which reverb tools did you use and did you use presets, tweaked presets, or ambiance designed by yourself?

    Again, I enjoyed hearing it.

    Norman

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    Re: Bach's Badinerie (from Suite in B Minor)

    Though I might differ somewhat with tempi (I always do... lol.) --
    it seems a bit rushed to me -- this is very well done, Max.

    Bravo! A pleasure.

    All best,



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    Re: Bach's Badinerie (from Suite in B Minor)

    Quote Originally Posted by jandjnelson View Post
    Nice work Max.

    As a Logic Pro user I would like to know if you used LP to get the ambience or some other source? If you did use LP for this, which reverb tools did you use and did you use presets, tweaked presets, or ambiance designed by yourself?

    Again, I enjoyed hearing it.

    Norman

    Hi Norman,

    I actually used MIR Pro to design the listening room (ambience) and the stage position of the instruments (sound depth). The reverb is IR (impulse respons), determined by the chosen room (see introduction) and a minimum of proper instrument reverb. The only Logic reverb is the 'spreader'.

    I hope this is an answer to your question.

    Max

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    Re: Bach's Badinerie (from Suite in B Minor)

    Quote Originally Posted by etLux View Post
    Though I might differ somewhat with tempi (I always do... lol.) --
    it seems a bit rushed to me -- this is very well done, Max.

    Bravo! A pleasure.

    All best,



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    Thank you, David.

    I personally prefer for baroque music the straight performance, certainly for instrumental pieces. With text, it's rather retoric and the music should follow the text in its natural flow. A badinerie is just some sort of spoken trifle, a joke, a meaningless heap of words. Of course, it's up to the soloist to determine the way of performing.

    Max

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