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    using midi FX and CAL with GPO... and a midi FX request!

    i use sonar 2 and bundle with it there is an interesting midi FX plugin, able to change by a random value the MIDI velocity.

    i also have GPO that, as we all know, is able to build ensemble from single instruments.

    if i have (let\'s say) a violin track i can play that track with 2 or more different violins in GPO. the easiest way to obtain a good result is just to assign the single track to the two GPO violins and let them play in unison, using VAR1 and VAR2 to get some human variations.

    but i want to go beyond: i clone the single violin MIDI track and assign them to different MIDI channels in GPO, so that every \"violinist\" receive its own MIDI data from its own track.

    here is where the MIDI plugins comes handy: you can use the \"midi FX velocity\" plugin to randomize a little the note velocity (+/-10), in order to change the performance just a bit.

    you can also, through a CAL routine (i can provide it), change a little the positions (of some MIDI ticks) of the notes, so that the players don\'t play exactly at unison.

    these previous two tweakings require just some second to be applied... but the result is really wonderful!

    the last thing could be to vary just a bit the modwheel datas, so that even the volume of the different players will be a bit different from one player to the other.
    unfortunately i don\'t know a simple method to randomize the envelope AND mantainig it coherent (i.e. avoid \"volume jumps\" like CC1=90 followed by a CC=95... should be CC=90 always followed by CC=91). is there some MIDI FX plugin that do this job? or can somone program it for GPO?! :-)

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    Re: using midi FX and CAL with GPO... and a midi FX request!

    Yeah, all of that stuff is quite possible. I\'m just running out of time for a change! (starting a new job soon...)

    - m

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    Re: using midi FX and CAL with GPO... and a midi FX request!

    Bosone,

    I would like to get a copy of your Sonar routines. Can you email them to me?

    martin at cdsol dot com.

    -- Martin

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    Re: using midi FX and CAL with GPO... and a midi FX request!

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    Bosone,

    I would like to get a copy of your Sonar routines. Can you email them to me?

    martin at cdsol dot com.

    -- Martin

    [/ QUOTE ]

    It would be nice to share some Sonar routines with us. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

    Gary Garritan

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    Re: using midi FX and CAL with GPO... and a midi FX request!

    Hi!
    i wrote two times this message but i had two web error... i thought it was something related with the forum update...
    the second time i get the error i was very tired about writing all that stuff and so i decided not to write anymore... and now i see my message!!! :-)

    i will post the CAL routine i was speaking about to gary very soon. i see if in my small archieve there is something else useful for GPO.
    regards,
    matteo

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    Re: using midi FX and CAL with GPO... and a midi F

    Hi matteo,

    I think all these are great ideas and such a plugin it’s next on my list. I even intend to go further and try to do all that by just having a single MIDI track in Sonar with a MFX plugin driving multiple GPO instruments. I just have to verify if it’s possible sending events to more than one channel from one track.
    I’ll talk to Markleford and we’ll probably work together on this one, but like him I am busy for a couple of weeks.
    I’m working on something really cool [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] GPO related but I won’t say more until I have something.

    In mean time please collect all these ideas and we’ll talk in a couple of weeks.

    Thanks,
    Dan.

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    Re: using midi FX and CAL with GPO... and a midi F

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    I just have to verify if it’s possible sending events to more than one channel from one track.

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    It\'s quite possible! I already have a plugin that does it. Not built specifically for GPO, though: there are some things I\'d like to change about it...

    - m

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    Re: using midi FX and CAL with GPO... and a midi F

    Dan (and Markelford),

    I can\'t tell you how cool it is to hear about you working on these things but, even better, to hear how you are collaborating with each other.

    Separately you have both contributed some wonderful things, and I can well imagine how great the stuff you will make together will be. Thank you both so much for contributing!!

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