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    How many people are voting for Kerry because they just can't stand Bush?

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    That would be an interesting stat to see. My guess is that it’s a pretty high percentage, which would indicate that many don't really think Kerry is qualified either, but that the mentality is really anyone other than Bush. With the amount of anit-Bush sentiment around, Kerry sure had better win this election or Democrats will be beside themselves with frustration. I think Ted Kennedy may just keel over and die if Bush is reelected. It will be interesting to see how this election pans out.

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    Re: How many people are voting for Kerry because they just can't stand Bush?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJF
    That would be an interesting stat to see. My guess is that it’s a pretty high percentage, which would indicate that many don't really think Kerry is qualified either, but that the mentality is really anyone other than Bush. With the amount of anit-Bush sentiment around, Kerry sure had better win this election or Democrats will be beside themselves with frustration. I think Ted Kennedy may just keel over and die if Bush is reelected. It will be interesting to see how this election pans out.
    I agree that the percentage will probably be high, though I won't be voting for Kerry. I wish we had better candidates running on both sides.

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    Re: How many people are voting for Kerry because they just can't stand Bush?

    All of them?

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    I'll be voting for Kerry because I can't stand Bush. I'm normally a republican.

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    Re: How many people are voting for Kerry because they just can't stand Bush?

    I'm in between. It's not that I think Kerry is the end-all (Kucinich was the best candidate of the bunch, I think), but he's certainly very qualified.

    But yes, I'd vote for a toilet if it was running against ****.

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    Re: How many people are voting for Kerry because they just can't stand Bush?

    If a multi-term Senator who served in the military isn't qualified, then no one is.

    Kerry isn't my first choice - he voted for the war resolution and stands by that vote - but I look forward to him being my president.

    -JF

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    Re: How many people are voting for Kerry because they just can't stand Bush?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJF
    That would be an interesting stat to see. My guess is that it’s a pretty high percentage, which would indicate that many don't really think Kerry is qualified either, but that the mentality is really anyone other than Bush. With the amount of anit-Bush sentiment around, Kerry sure had better win this election or Democrats will be beside themselves with frustration. I think Ted Kennedy may just keel over and die if Bush is reelected. It will be interesting to see how this election pans out.
    I initially supported Dean. But I DO support Kerry after learning more about him and, yes, would vote for a monkey before voting for Bush.

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    Re: How many people are voting for Kerry because they just can't stand Bush?

    Kerry.

    Or maybe I should phrase that 'Definitely NOT Bush' candidate.

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    Re: How many people are voting for Kerry because they just can't stand Bush?

    I didn’t like Kerry at first. General Clark was my first choice - however after i learned a bit about him I flip flopped!
    Bush has lost me on several issues:
    1. Post war Iraq: obliviously no plan here. Zero plans to win over the peace.
    2. CIA: still endless screw-ups 3 years after 911. Although I blame Tenet for this I feel bush should have fired his A** years ago.
    3. Social issues: like stem cell research- do you really want a elementary school teacher- like Laura bush making such decisions (it’s her pet issue)
    Also gay marriage. do we really need to amend the constitution on this??
    4. The economy: just what in the hell is a jobless economic growth?
    5. Pre war Iraq. we went it alone isolating ourselves. We didn’t listen to our allies on this we and now we look incredibly stupid before the world. IE: no WMDs
    6. Iran/ N. Korea: real threats they have WMD's yet we attack iraq?
    7. Cheney: gee what a surprise Halliburton profits from the Iraq war.
    8. War on terror: major screw-ups here, most major cities still haven’t received federal funds for local 1st responders. Still our ports and borders are too wide open( no new implementations on our ports for example)
    About a year ago ABC did an amazing report on how they smuggled low level
    radiation into the country from turkey.
    9. Bush does not hold press many conferences and takes reporters questions directly as past presidents do (Clinton, bush Sr). in fact he is very defensive when asked anything.
    10. Bush still not talking about issues just talks about Kerry!
    11. the economy again: Bush spends, spends, spends! whatever happend to our surplus?
    I always find it amazing that the none of these issues bother the neo-cons why?

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    Re: How many people are voting for Kerry because they just can't stand Bush?

    Quote Originally Posted by mike harper
    I didn’t like Kerry at first. General Clark was my first choice - however after i learned a bit about him I flip flopped!
    Bush has lost me on several issues:
    1. Post war Iraq: obliviously no plan here. Zero plans to win over the peace.
    2. CIA: still endless screw-ups 3 years after 911. Although I blame Tenet for this I feel bush should have fired his A** years ago.
    3. Social issues: like stem cell research- do you really want a elementary school teacher- like Laura bush making such decisions (it’s her pet issue)
    Also gay marriage. do we really need to amend the constitution on this??
    4. The economy: just what in the hell is a jobless economic growth?
    5. Pre war Iraq. we went it alone isolating ourselves. We didn’t listen to our allies on this we and now we look incredibly stupid before the world. IE: no WMDs
    6. Iran/ N. Korea: real threats they have WMD's yet we attack iraq?
    7. Cheney: gee what a surprise Halliburton profits from the Iraq war.
    8. War on terror: major screw-ups here, most major cities still haven’t received federal funds for local 1st responders. Still our ports and borders are too wide open( no new implementations on our ports for example)
    About a year ago ABC did an amazing report on how they smuggled low level
    radiation into the country from turkey.
    9. Bush does not hold press many conferences and takes reporters questions directly as past presidents do (Clinton, bush Sr). in fact he is very defensive when asked anything.
    10. Bush still not talking about issues just talks about Kerry!
    11. the economy again: Bush spends, spends, spends! whatever happend to our surplus?
    I always find it amazing that the none of these issues bother the neo-cons why?
    Sure they do...but then again many of us don't buy into the "neo-con" BS. I'm an independent conservative and I'm royally pissed at Bush for the exorbitant spending during his administration, though Congress is also to blame.

    To answer your other points:

    1) A "plan to win the peace" was in place, and you can never plan 100%. We knew we'd have to restructure the Iraqi government and Bush himself said that we had to be patient.

    2) Agreed.

    3) Agreed, though I do support banning stem-cell research on aborted fetuses.

    4) As industry creates jobs, not governments, I'm not sure what your point is. Bush has made the market more conducive to business, which is what we needed after the dot-com bust.

    5) I disagree. We went into this with several allies and I think most of the world probably knows that Saddam moved his WMD to Syria, they just don't want to say it. Many countries were upset that we attacked Iraq, but few thought that Saddam did not pose a threat, so I don't buy into the theory that we've squandered our goodwill around the world.

    6) So what's your point? Are you saying we should attack Iran and N Korea? Iraq was attacked because Saddam was violating the Gulf War cease-fire and about 18 UN resolutions. He was given a set of criteria to follow in order to prevent action and he failed to do so. Just because Iran and N Korea are also part of the "Axis of Evil", does not mean that each case is similar. BTW, I think the "Axis of Evil" line is stupid.

    7) Halliburton is one of the only companies in the world that does the kind of oil well recovery operations that they do. I don't think Cheney had anything to do with their getting some of the contracts that they did. If you can prove otherwise, please do so.

    8) Agreed, but I'm not sure there is a short-term fix...or even a long one. There is just too much stuff that comes in this country.

    9) Agreed.

    10) Bush talks about issues, just the same ones...War in Iraq, war on terror, etc. Part of an election is drawing distinctions between oneself and one's opponent, so what do you expect. Unfortunately, I think that we're going to hear more socialist policies from the Republican convention.

    11) Part of the surplus went away with the downturn in the economy, the rest Congress and the President squandered.

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