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    How does anyone get any work done???

    Ok I hate to beat this horse AGAIN but this patch change thing just is NOT workign at all. Midi has been around for over 20 years so I can\'t understand what the problem is.
    I am controlling my giga PC\'s with my mac. I send out program changes from the Mac and I get mixed results. Some channels work ok while others just don\'t work at all.
    For example; I have one channel where on mea. 1 it sends a program change to program \"7\" but every time it calls up program \"11\". I can detach the instrument from the channel load just program \"7\" into that channel and it STILL pulls up program \"11\".
    Again, I hate to gripe but this HAS to get fixed. How does anyone doing large orchestration\'s do any work?
    I wish the programmers for giga were musicians. I think that would solve a lot of these weird things!

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    Re: How does anyone get any work done???

    I second your request. I have completely given up working with program changes.

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    Re: How does anyone get any work done???

    Originally posted by composer22:
    Whoa there padre, Donnie:

    Are you sending the bank # as well?

    Have all patches been edited into distinct and seperate banks and patch numbers, rather than relying on GIga to assign these nmbers?

    This is the only way I am getting it to work.
    <font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">Composer,

    It should work they way it is susposed to work. You load instruments in giga; identify the program number, and assign them from there in your sequwncer. Why should it work any differenty?

    Donnie

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    Re: How does anyone get any work done???

    well, im not sure what you mean Donnie.

    Lets take the old way I used to patch change w/ my 2080, where I\'d send it 0/32 command with a bank AND a patch number..eg 128 patch limitation per bank. every sound in my 2080 has a unique bank/patch number.

    The only difference here is that Mr. Giga is auto assigning bank/patch numbers on the fly if you dont explicitely set this up ahead. This seems like a BAD idea anyway, in case you decided to add a new patch down the road into your piece...if you let giga assign ANYTHING it will screw up the bank/patch #\'s in a recalc, and your sequencer or score app needs to be re-tweaked for bank/patch number changes.

    ssoooo, my advice is to set these up ahead of time. I allocated ranges of Banks/patches for particular instrument libraries, edit them and also assign unique bank/patch numbers as I need new sounds to my pieces. This way the old ones aren\'t screwed up, giga isn\'t a dependency. I have banks reserved ahead of time to make life easier...

    I could also swear it cut down on crash possibilities...

    And it conforms to standards like any of my HW synths - unique bank/patches across the board.

    only problem is I needed to redo my performance files because giga cant do anything right.

    Should the calculation work in giga? NO! I wish they would throw the damned thing out, and let us edit bank/patch assignments in GIGA, instead of individual GIG files. I\'d also appreciate if they would allow us to export performance/bank numbers into some standards - like CUBASE insrument files so we can use it in our sequencers easier...

    But to make it work, sending a BANK/PATCH is the only way to make it happen. Giving a house address is not enuf...you need to know the town if you know what I mean...

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    Re: How does anyone get any work done???

    Whoa there padre, Donnie:

    Are you sending the bank # as well?

    Have all patches been edited into distinct and seperate banks and patch numbers, rather than relying on GIga to assign these nmbers?

    This is the only way I am getting it to work.

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