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    A critical mistake for Bush

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    To the layman it was just a cute barb. To television journalists it's a blow below the belt.

    BUSH: In all due respect, I'm not so sure it's credible to quote leading news organizations about -- oh, nevermind.

    News organizations live and die on their credibility. To have the general credibility of the entire industry questioned on national TV by the president of the United States is just shy of a declaration of war.

    I've only seen one sitting president speak in person. It was Bush, Sr. to the National Association of Broadcasters. Old George knew how critical the media is to his success. In fact, the core topic of his speech was the benefits of propoganda, though he never once used that particular word.

    The media championed Dean, until he spoke to Chris Matthews about limiting big media. After that December interview, the cover stories no longer had him smiling in front of an American flag. No, they now showed him looking solemn, half in shadows. And who can forget the media obsession about the Dean scream.

    In 2000 Bush courted the media, fed them well, joked with them and knew the press corp on a first name basis. Gore didn't play to them and he got ripped. The media liked Bush and disliked Gore.

    But during the past four years Bush has given few interviews, few press conferences, and relegates those who ask tough questions to the back row. Don't think the journalists haven't noticed.

    Now we have CBS as the host of the debate, and he calls media credibility into question. Dan Rather is CBS's most valuable news property, he suffered serious damage recently, and the president clearly kicked him when he was down.

    The media will not forget this. And the media can make or break a close election.

    Let's not forget what happened to Dean. Kerry was preferred by the media, and Kerry blew Dean away.

    Those eighteen words may have been the costliest that Bush has ever spoken.

    -JF

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    Re: A critical mistake for Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by JonFairhurst
    Dan Rather is CBS's most valuable news property, he suffered serious damage recently, and the president clearly kicked him when he was down.
    You say he "suffered" serious damage recently...That's not entirely accurate...since, as you might recall, he brought it on himself...I'd say "caused" is more like it...

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    Re: A critical mistake for Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by XanaX
    You say he "suffered" serious damage recently...That's not entirely accurate...since, as you might recall, he brought it on himself...I'd say "caused" is more like it...
    Typical. Let's divert the subject of the thread to an attack on a liberal.

    THE POINT is that Bush may have shot himself in the foot by dissing the press.

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    Re: A critical mistake for Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by robgb
    Typical. Let's divert the subject of the thread to an attack on a liberal.

    THE POINT is that Bush may have shot himself in the foot by dissing the press.

    Man, you're just ridiculous. LOL

    Keep it up!

    "Attack"?!?

    "Clarification" is more like it, you hateful little putz.

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    Re: A critical mistake for Bush

    From the point of view of the value of CBS's property, it was a bad situation. They want to recover. Then Bush gives 'em another kick while implicating the entire industry.

    Not Bush's smartest move. Maybe he gains with his base of ditto-heads, but it won't play in Peoria and it won't play in the newsrooms.

    Xanax, you might choose to edit your post. Name calling is clearly against the forum rules, and it certainly wasn't merited.

    -JF

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    Re: A critical mistake for Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by XanaX
    Man, you're just ridiculous. LOL

    Keep it up!

    "Attack"?!?

    "Clarification" is more like it, you hateful little putz.
    Buy WHY the "clarification" then? What was the point of it? We all know what happened with Rather.

    Had you posted anything else, I might agree it was only a clarification. But that's all you had to say. It was an obvious attempt to divert attention from the point of the thread -- Bush's problem -- and try to throw it onto the other side.

    It's a technique you and others like you use all the time, and I'm simply calling you on it.

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    Re: A critical mistake for Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by robgb
    Buy WHY the "clarification" then? What was the point of it? We all know what happened with Rather.

    Had you posted anything else, I might agree it was only a clarification. But that's all you had to say. It was an obvious attempt to divert attention from the point of the thread -- Bush's problem -- and try to throw it onto the other side.

    It's a technique you and others like you use all the time, and I'm simply calling you on it.
    Because to characterize Rather as having SUFFERED is just silly.

    It was just a comment. If you really think that it was meant to "divert attention from the point of the thread"...pathetic.

    Get over it, man. Get over yourself. This is JUST a web forum. The problems of the world are not being solved here.

    "You and others like you"? There is no one "like me" on this board.
    You are so blinded by hate, you can't even understand what people who you have defined as your "enemies" have to say. (It's that enlightened attitude that makes this place SUCH a pleasure for anyone who isn't goose-stepping along with the Left and all its official talking points.)
    Listen, you don't know anything about me OR my views on American politics. Nada. I challenge you to find even one example of my taking a side in the American election. Go on. I'm curious to see what you can come up with.



    Go Kerry! Go Bush! Blah blah frickin' blah...Aren't you people bored yet?

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    Re: A critical mistake for Bush

    And just to illustrate the ridiculousness of your painting all your "enemies" with a single brush:
    When Brady was around, you related to him with basically the same sort of contempt with which you relate to me. However, while Brady is a Christian (and I'd say Radical) Libertarian, I am a basically Moderately Socialist Jew. About the only thing we have in common is that we are both pro-Israel and anti-bulls--it. "You and others like you" have fundamental problems with truth and accuracy---not to mention the palapable, nauseating hatred that you direct towards that and those with which you disagree.

    I am proud to be YOUR enemy.

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    Re: A critical mistake for Bush

    And one other thing---What's up with the arrogance?

    Like that discussion a month or two ago where you were trying to tell ME what Jewish Law (Halakhah) has to say about abortion. It's a complete joke---you gave me opinions from some randomly-Googled Reform rabbi as "proof" of how Halakhah (a word which you'd certainly never heard prior to my bringing it up) views abortion. A normal person would respond with "Oh, that's interesting. I didn't know that there was such a thing as Jewish law. Thanks for the information." But nooooooooooooo..................


    If you could manage to check your ego at the door and open your mind, you MIGHT just learn something.

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    Re: A critical mistake for Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by XanaX
    Because to characterize Rather as having SUFFERED is just silly.

    It was just a comment. If you really think that it was meant to "divert attention from the point of the thread"...pathetic.

    Get over it, man. Get over yourself. This is JUST a web forum. The problems of the world are not being solved here.
    Man, you've got a lot of hate in you. If you don't like it here, don't join in. If all you want to do is belittle what many of us here in America find important, please feel free to stay out of the conversation. It's your choice. But don't rag on me because I make the choice to participate.

    It's that simple.

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