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    October Surprise Revisited

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    I was wondering what else Bin Laden had to say in an 18 minute diatribe that only 4 minutes made it on air :::

    http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/33124.htm

    November 1, 2004 -- WASHINGTON - Osama bin Laden warned in his October Surprise video that he will be closely monitoring the state-by-state election returns in tomorrow's presidential race — and will spare any state that votes against President Bush from being attacked, according to a new analysis of his statement.

    The respected Middle East Media Research Institute, which monitors and translates Arabic media and Internet sites, said initial translations of a key portion of bin Laden's video rant to the American people Friday night missed an ostentatious bid by the Saudi-born terror master to divide American voters and tilt the election towards Democratic challenger John Kerry.

    MEMRI said radical Islamist commentators monitored over the Internet this past weekend also interpreted the key passage of bin Laden's diatribe to mean that any U.S. state that votes to elect Bush on Tuesday will be considered an "enemy" and any state that votes for Kerry has "chosen to make peace with us."

    The statement in question is when bin Laden said on the tape: "Your security is up to you, and any state that does not toy with our security automatically guarantees its own security."

    That sentence followed a lengthy passage in the video in which bin Laden launches personal attacks on the president.

    Yigal Carmon, president of MEMRI, said bin Laden used the Arabic term "ay-wilaya" to refer to a "state" in that sentence.

    That term "specifically refers to an American state, like Tennessee," Carmon said, adding that if bin Laden were referring to a "country" he would have used the Arabic word "dawla."

    MEMRI also translated an analysis of bin Laden's statement from the Islamist Web site al-Qal'a, well known for posting al-Qaeda messages, which agreed that bin Laden's use of the word "ay-wilaya" was meant as a "warning to every U.S state separately."

    "It means that any U.S. state that will choose to vote for the white thug Bush as president, it means that it chose to fight us and we will consider it an enemy to us, and any state that will vote against Bush, it means that it chose to make peace with us and we will not characterize it as an enemy," the Web site said, according to MEMRI's translation.

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    Imagine the impact if this story is plastered on the news today !!!!
    This will 'scare straight' the soccor moms and paranoids for sure !!!!

    I knew there had to be more to the story. And there was.

    Kerry supporters - please post this to every blog, forum that you can think of. I may wait till i see if any other organization besides the NY Post covers it. Someone will.

    -Scott

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    This article is being dismissed as BS. Plus, the Post is right-wing. Maybe they're setting up for a loss? (i.e. "oh look, Kerry won...it must be because the terr'sts threatened our citizens into voting for him")

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    So you're suggesting people vote for Kerry so Bin Laden won't consider their state an enemy?

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    Re: October Surprise Revisited

    Quote Originally Posted by XanaX
    So you're suggesting people vote for Kerry so Bin Laden won't consider their state an enemy?
    People will vote for whomever they think is NOT who Bin Laden wants. People will vote to defy the jerk. Some people think Bin Laden wants Kerry so they vote for Bush. I vote Kerry because I know Bin Laden wants Bush. Osama is smart and knows this. If he says "any state that is blue is safe", that will help BUSH not Kerry...he has played us well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian2112
    People will vote for whomever they think is NOT who Bin Laden wants. People will vote to defy the jerk. Some people think Bin Laden wants Kerry so they vote for Bush. I vote Kerry because I know Bin Laden wants Bush.
    I vote for who I want. Regardless of what Osama says or thinks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Doggett
    I vote for who I want. Regardless of what Osama says or thinks.
    Though I'm not eligible to vote myself (not beeing a US citizen ;-),
    this election will be affecting me and most other people around
    the world. (Pretty obvious for the influence the US policy has on
    most parts of the world). So I guess I'm at least titled to voice
    my opinion...

    I really think that Osama wants Bush to be reelected. The reason
    for this is the fact, that Bush tends to polarize the world. Unfor-
    tunately to the extent, that most of the world deeply despises
    the current administration. And this certainly to a point which
    has not been seen in any recent history.

    This definately strengthens the position of Osama. Especially
    in the Arab world. Even though he has done despicable things,
    the "man on the street" sees him as the guy who had the guts
    to challenge GWB.

    With Kerry the situation would balance out again (will take some
    time) and all those "irrelevant" States will become closer to the
    US again. This is something which Osama definately does not
    want...

    Tobias

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    Re: October Surprise Revisited

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Doggett
    I vote for who I want. Regardless of what Osama says or thinks.
    This is the correct attitude. I will too. I fell for my own Ideology again. However, for me, getting these jerks is priority #1 and we can't do it alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias Erichsen
    Though I'm not eligible to vote myself (not beeing a US citizen ;-),
    this election will be affecting me and most other people around
    the world. (Pretty obvious for the influence the US policy has on
    most parts of the world). So I guess I'm at least titled to voice
    my opinion...

    I really think that Osama wants Bush to be reelected. The reason
    for this is the fact, that Bush tends to polarize the world. Unfor-
    tunately to the extent, that most of the world deeply despises
    the current administration. And this certainly to a point which
    has not been seen in any recent history.

    This definately strengthens the position of Osama. Especially
    in the Arab world. Even though he has done despicable things,
    the "man on the street" sees him as the guy who had the guts
    to challenge GWB.

    With Kerry the situation would balance out again (will take some
    time) and all those "irrelevant" States will become closer to the
    US again. This is something which Osama definately does not
    want...

    Tobias
    Exactly.
    "So what if some parts of life are a crap shoot? Get out there and shoot the crap." -- Neil Peart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias Erichsen
    the "man on the street" sees him as the guy who had the guts
    to challenge GWB.
    OBL challenged GWB? How and when exactly? 911?
    Given that the planning and training that went into the attack took far longer than the 8-9 months Bush was in office when it took place, I'm really curious as to how you manage to see 911 as an attack on GWB.
    You mean to say USA.

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    Re: October Surprise Revisited

    Quote Originally Posted by XanaX
    OBL challenged GWB? How and when exactly? 911?
    Given that the planning and training that went into the attack took far longer than the 8-9 months Bush was in office when it took place, I'm really curious as to how you manage to see 911 as an attack on GWB.
    You mean to say USA.
    The attention-span of the general public is very short. IMHO this is inde-
    pendend of the region. It's just the same in America, Europe, Middle-
    East or Asia. So the time the attack took place, GWB was in charge.
    So he was the target...

    This time-span-thing is also one of the reasons why administrations get
    through with the ~~~~ they have done through their "reign". The voters
    forget too easily!

    Tobias

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