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    Studio West piano multisample???

    Anyone heard of Studio West 24/96 piano? It's apparently big:
    14 gigs, it seems, of a Yamaha C-7 for giga.

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    Re: Studio West piano multisample???

    I don't know what to say.

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    Re: Studio West piano multisample???

    Quote Originally Posted by Alexcremers
    I don't know what to say.
    Can't tell you more about it then what it says on the site since I'm, as you might know, no longer with Bigga Giggas. So I had nothing to do with the production of this piano.
    I think it would be a good idea to produce some more demos, not using the "Shootout" midi.
    Worra
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    Arf, arf, arf...

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    Re: Studio West piano multisample???

    But ... it's like I'm hearing only one dynamic (ff, at least). Maybe this is just a teaser.

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    Alex Cremers

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    Re: Studio West piano multisample???

    Quote Originally Posted by Alexcremers
    But ... it's like I'm hearing only one dynamic (ff, at least). Maybe this is just a teaser.

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    Alex Cremers
    The midi used to make these demos are nice played, but with VERY strong hands.... That's what I meant by that BG should make a few new demos not using this MIDI file.
    The "Shootout" file seems to trigger notes at a very high velocity.
    Worra
    SampleTekk

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    Re: Studio West piano multisample???

    Yeah, I dislike that midi file, too. I'd much rather hear some simple major chords in a slow I\IV progression that let us hear notes sustain and die.

    I'm not sure I understand where the size of the intrument comes in. It has 8 layers, yes, but that doesn't take 14 gigabytes, does it, even if each sample is 2-3 megs? I thought the Synthogy thing was big, but it's 20 gigs for 3 instruments.

    According to the specs pdf, there are more soft layers on this than other pianos. Would be nice to have a good demo, though my system won't run this. Looks as though I'm going to have to upgrade, some day.

    Suprised they haven't posted any announcements here at all.

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    Re: Studio West piano multisample???

    [QUOTE=Jake Johnson]I'm not sure I understand where the size of the intrument comes in. It has 8 layers, yes, but that doesn't take 14 gigabytes, does it, even if each sample is 2-3 megs? I thought the Synthogy thing was big, but it's 20 gigs for 3 instruments.
    QUOTE]

    It seems like it's in 96KHz/24 bits and full envelope/no loops. If so, your dealing with samples over 60 seconds long.
    Worra
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    Re: Studio West piano multisample???

    Hehe. MIDI Shootout File = Holiday Inn from HELL.

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    Re: Studio West piano multisample???

    When I first started learning about sampled pianos, I listened to those demos. When I listen to them now, I think the problem isn't just the tempo or the problems of applying several sample sets to a given midi file. The treble really seems to come out in them all. None of the demos have much bass at all, including the demos of pianos I own, and know to have a strong bass.

    But it's a great service to us all to have the site up, and I'm sure it takes up more time than we might think to keep it up and running. Is there a way we can gently nudge him in the direction of using another midi file, or other recordings?

    There's been a discussion here before about the problem with using any midi file for all sample sets, since different multisamples will play different layers at the same velocity, etc. But would a very simple set of midi files help: maybe 3 or 4 midi files with specified parameters, so the point of each midi file would be something like: here is a C scale moving from a velocity of 10 to 90, or here is a Bb chord for a measure followed by an F chord for a measure, both at a velocity of 45? This way, we would be better able to compare the libraries. Not that I have the space to host something like this...

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