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    Freedom is "governance and control"

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    Bush awards George Tenet (and Franks and Bremmer) the Medal of Freedom:
    http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/....ap/index.html

    But check out what George Tenet stands for:

    Tenet calls for Internet security
    By Shaun Waterman
    UNITED PRESS INTERNATIONAL
    Published December 2, 2004

    Former CIA Director George J. Tenet yesterday called for new security measures to guard against attacks on the United States that use the Internet, which he called "a potential Achilles' heel."

    "I know that these actions will be controversial in this age when we still think the Internet is a free and open society with no control or accountability," he told an information-technology security conference in Washington, "but ultimately the Wild West must give way to governance and control."

    The former CIA director said telecommunications -- and specifically the Internet -- are a back door through which terrorists and other enemies of the United States could attack the country, even though great strides have been made in securing the physical infrastructure.

    The Internet "represents a potential Achilles' heel for our financial stability and physical security if the networks we are creating are not protected," Mr. Tenet said.

    He said known adversaries, including "intelligence services, military organizations and non-state actors," are researching information attacks against the United States.

    Within the federal government, the Department of Homeland Security has the lead role in protecting the Internet from terrorism. But the department's head of cyber-security recently quit amid reports that he had clashed with his superiors.

    Mr. Tenet, who retired in July as director of the CIA after seven years, warned that al Qaeda remains a sophisticated group, even though its first-tier leadership largely has been destroyed.

    It is "undoubtedly mapping vulnerabilities and weaknesses in our telecommunications networks," he said.

    Mr. Tenet pointed out that the modernization of key industries in the United States is making them more vulnerable by connecting them with an Internet that is open to attack.

    The way the Internet was built might be part of the problem, he said. Its open architecture allows Web surfing, but that openness makes the system vulnerable, Mr. Tenet said.

    Access to networks like the World Wide Web might need to be limited to those who can show they take security seriously, he said.

    Mr. Tenet called for industry to lead the way by "establishing and enforcing" security standards. Products need to be delivered to government and private-sector customers "with a new level of security and risk management already built in."

    The national press, including United Press International (UPI), were excluded from yesterday's event, at Mr. Tenet's request, organizers said.

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    Re: Freedom is "governance and control"

    While it is true that for freedom to exist, there must be a certain amount of order, I am increasingly disturbed by the authoritarian attitudes exhibited by the neo-Cons. That, and the tendency of loyal Republicans to overlook this gross departure from traditional conservatism and turn on anyone trying to point out this dangerous trend. I think it is time we viewed the neo-Cons for what they truly are: wolves in sheep's clothing. They have infiltrated (and indeed have overcome) the ranks of the traditional conservatives, but the conservative base refuses to see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brady Wright
    While it is true that for freedom to exist, there must be a certain amount of order, I am increasingly disturbed by the authoritarian attitudes exhibited by the neo-Cons. That, and the tendency of loyal Republicans to overlook this gross departure from traditional conservatism and turn on anyone trying to point out this dangerous trend. I think it is time we viewed the neo-Cons for what they truly are: wolves in sheep's clothing. They have infiltrated (and indeed have overcome) the ranks of the traditional conservatives, but the conservative base refuses to see it.
    I could'nt agree more. The neo-cons are going to doom us all.

    ed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brady Wright
    While it is true that for freedom to exist, there must be a certain amount of order, I am increasingly disturbed by the authoritarian attitudes exhibited by the neo-Cons. That, and the tendency of loyal Republicans to overlook this gross departure from traditional conservatism and turn on anyone trying to point out this dangerous trend. I think it is time we viewed the neo-Cons for what they truly are: wolves in sheep's clothing. They have infiltrated (and indeed have overcome) the ranks of the traditional conservatives, but the conservative base refuses to see it.
    wow Brady, i am truly touched.

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    Re: Freedom is "governance and control"

    Nothing would make me happier if we could find a way of erasing the meaning of words and starting again, holy crap, freedom, peace, love, terrorist, you name it , we have developed an unhealthy fetish for words. These wolves hiding behind words and they know they can get away with it, its almost as if they are throwing the words into our faces and saying here have your words we've got you.

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    Re: Freedom is "governance and control"

    It's amazing that I agree with Brady.

    I have a slight feeling we'd disagree on the better alternative to neo-cons, but we do agree that they're bad news.

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    Re: Freedom is "governance and control"

    Quote Originally Posted by charles
    wow Brady, i am truly touched.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Batzdorf
    It's amazing that I agree with Brady.

    I have a slight feeling we'd disagree on the better alternative to neo-cons, but we do agree that they're bad news.
    I'm tellin' you guys, it's the holiday spirit!

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    Re: Freedom is "governance and control"

    I don't buy it. Brady's gagged and tied-up. Someone else is at the keyboard. Possibly Santa.

    JG

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    Re: Freedom is "governance and control"

    I'll join the club then..... "Happy Holidays" to all of you who like to discuss (argue) with me as well.
    "They get what they vote for." PaulR

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