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  1. #1

    How's my demo reel?

    Track 1 of my demo CD will be the montage below. The rest of the tracks will be full-length tracks of some of the clips included in the montage.

    Any input would be appreciated. My market is the video gaming industry.

    http://www.samhulick.com/montage.mp3
    Sam Hulick
    Composer
    http://www.samhulick.com/

  2. #2

    Re: How's my demo reel?

    Oh my gosh! Howard Shore!!! Seriously though, I like this track but perhaps a little too much reverb. I'm all for dripping wet orchestrations but this sounds a little vacuous. Or something from X-Files with respect to the ambience. Did you steal Mark Snow's effects unit?

    A great diversity though. The winds sound a little Proteus-like compared to the ominous horns (Project SAM perhaps or Epic Horns?). But it's a nice dichotomy.

  3. #3

    Re: How's my demo reel?

    Like it! Agree on the reverb comment, sometimes too much. Also look for the levels. The heavy brass stuff shouldn't be lower in volume than a single bassoon following right next. Perhaps I'd mix it louder/hotter overall too for the targeted purpose.

    Good luck with it!

  4. #4

    Re: How's my demo reel?

    Wow, I didn't expect any comments on the reverb. I've gotten a ton of positive comments on my production quality recently. I'll take that clip #3 and run it through some different reverb processes, and then repost the results here. I know some of you have better ears for the details than I do.

    About the levels: that's staying the way it is. I normalized it in such a way so that someone listening in their car or on a stereo doesn't need to reach over and fiddle with the volume knob. They can pop it in, kick back, and listen.
    Sam Hulick
    Composer
    http://www.samhulick.com/

  5. #5

    Re: How's my demo reel?

    http://www.samhulick.com/reverb_test.mp3

    I suppose you'll like this, but I don't. It's totally missing that big orchestra hall feeling now. It sounds like a small orch. in someone's basement. All I did was lower the wet mix on the front of the stage (winds/strings/horns) and the rear (percussion).
    Sam Hulick
    Composer
    http://www.samhulick.com/

  6. #6

    Re: How's my demo reel?

    I agree that the first one is too wet. The problem isn't exactly the amount but the distribution of the reverb. The second clip shows this very well, instruments are too dry and some is too wet. For example the percussions are very wet and the piccolo flute is very dry.

    Nice music, isn't that the most important thing?

  7. #7

    Re: How's my demo reel?

    That's too much taken off.. Hehe. However that special part the winds sound farther back than everything in the original posted one. I think a tad less of reverb would have done it to please me, sorry if it came across otherwise! I'd go for something close to the original one starting from the new one... The big hall is needed for your orchestration!

    Keep up the good work!
    PolarBear

  8. #8

    Re: How's my demo reel?

    Quote Originally Posted by janila
    I agree that the first one is too wet. The problem isn't exactly the amount but the distribution of the reverb. The second clip shows this very well, instruments are too dry and some is too wet. For example the percussions are very wet and the flute is very dry.
    That's because some sample libraries are dryer than others. I see what you're saying though, it's like mixing G-Town samlpes in with Project SAM, and then adding the same reverb to both.. the G-Town would become pure mush.

    I don't know what else to do about this really. I suppose I could stop using the Project SAM far mic. samples and use the close mic. That way it would have the same stage presence as the rest of my libraries which tend to be dryer than Project SAM.

    Any suggestions?

    EDIT: PolarBear says that in the 1st clip, the piccolo sounds further back than everything else, which is true.. but that's strange, because #1, there's more reverb applied to the percussion since it's further back on the stage, and #2, that piccolo is Westgate and it's very dry. Maybe I accidentally grouped it in with the percussion when I mixed down to audio.
    Sam Hulick
    Composer
    http://www.samhulick.com/

  9. #9

    Re: How's my demo reel?

    So are the percussions from the True Strike Far set? I haven't got the library yet but based on the demos the stage set sounds like the best choise for your mix.

    Are the horns from the Epic Horns? If so, you have done them more justice than Bill Brown in the Lady Death demos.

  10. #10

    Re: How's my demo reel?

    No, the horns are SAM Horns. Percussion is True Strike demo, which I believe is just the far set. Not sure.

    http://www.samhulick.com/reverb_test2.mp3

    This is REALLY weird. Test #2 is the same reverb used in the montage.mp3 for that particular piece... yet it doesn't sound as wet. I'm dumbfounded. The piccolo run sounds like it's longer in montage.mp3, maybe I hit a keyswitch to change to an articulation but didn't actually record the keyswitch in the MIDI (very common mistake I make). Anyway, it sounds a lot better. I guess I'll just have to redo the montage from scratch. No biggie.
    Sam Hulick
    Composer
    http://www.samhulick.com/

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