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    NO MULTI FOR SYMPHONIC ORCHESTRA "GOLD EDITION"

    My first Post

    I just received my East/West SYMPHONIC ORCHESTRA "GOLD EDITION" and did the big install , I noticed that when I opened Kompakt that there are NO MULTI instruments !
    When I seen this I shuttered at the thought of
    going through each instrument and assembling multi instruments .

    I noticed that there is a file labelled Multi but its empty , I did a reinstall just to make sure but no go , I read the web page several times and I cant see anything about it .

    If this is a limitation of the GOLD pack I'll be very disappointed !
    It'll take me a very long time to learn which instruments do what and how and
    then Multi them , even if they just had a few to get you started or use as a template would have been a nice idea .
    On the other hand if there is any one who would like to share multi instrument files that would help a starter like me very much .

    I hope I haven't missed something in the install any advice or help would be great .

    Julius

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    Re: NO MULTI FOR SYMPHONIC ORCHESTRA "GOLD EDITION"

    A multi is simply a collection or group of patches.

    EWQLSO doesnt come with multis, because it doesnt really
    make any sense to do that.

    There are too many instruments, and too many combonations/
    possibilities/ music styles/approaches. You will find you'll need
    to use different instruments and articulations for every piece
    you write.
    Nobody could possibly dream up multis in a useful or sensible way
    for this type of library.

    Also, Depending on your system/and ram, you may
    or may not be able to load larger multis.
    To large a gap between systems for them to predict whats
    going to load for everybody.

    SO, load a bunch of patches and save it as a "multi". Then you
    will have a multi.

    TK

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    Lightbulb Re: NO MULTI FOR SYMPHONIC ORCHESTRA "GOLD EDITION"

    Don't get upset. Before there was technology we actually had to hear music and instrumentation in our head. You have to build your own multis. It's easy to do.

    As you're writing your first piece, bring up a patch to play. Flip through the patches until you find something that suits your taste and needs. Then play another part by bringing up another instrument. Pretty soon you'll have your very own multi that you can save.

    If you have trouble getting started Vln's is always a good place to start writing. But soon as you grow you'll develop your own templates to work from.

    I personally would have hated for East/West to have cluttered up my folders with prefab multi's. I know what instruments I want. I just set up my multi's in score order.

    Cheers,

    Jose

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    Re: NO MULTI FOR SYMPHONIC ORCHESTRA "GOLD EDITION"

    Also note that to save your own multi's you must create a folder called "multis" where your instruments are located (at the same level as the "instruments" folder).

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    Re: NO MULTI FOR SYMPHONIC ORCHESTRA "GOLD EDITION"

    You shouldn't actually use multis for composing. Each instrument or section should get its own track/line for added realism. This is part in parcel of counterpoint. But, if you want multis to sketch out ideas, it's really simple.

    I created a brass patch in under 5 minutes. I just used staccato patches from trps, trombones, horns, and tuba, set the ranges so there was a little overlapping and volume adjustment- then presto! A whole brass section.

    Give it a try. Technology is fun!

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    Re: NO MULTI FOR SYMPHONIC ORCHESTRA "GOLD EDITION"

    Quote Originally Posted by dcoscina
    You shouldn't actually use multis for composing. Each instrument or section should get its own track/line for added realism. This is part in parcel of counterpoint. But, if you want multis to sketch out ideas, it's really simple.

    I created a brass patch in under 5 minutes. I just used staccato patches from trps, trombones, horns, and tuba, set the ranges so there was a little overlapping and volume adjustment- then presto! A whole brass section.

    Give it a try. Technology is fun!

    Actually you should use Multis for composing. It saves CPU to have 8 intruments in one Kompact Player then to have 8 separate players. Each Intrument in a Multi can still have it's own track for CC control/expression etc. And if your sequencer supports it then each instrument can go to a separate output as well.
    J
    Specialist/Sound Design
    jamieh@strayvoltage.net
    http://www.strayvoltage.net
    http://homepage.mac.com/jamiehaggerty

    "A note of music gains significance from the silence on either side." -Anne
    Morrow Lindberg

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    Re: NO MULTI FOR SYMPHONIC ORCHESTRA "GOLD EDITION"

    Great tips !

    It makes more sense to me now , I'm new to it and wanted a quick get up and go , but I'll start building my own multis and learn the instrument names and what they do as I go . BTW I very impressed with sound and detail of this amazing library !

    If I may I had another question about " VOICES OF THE APOCALYPSE " which I also recently purchased from E.W.
    Its in GIGA format only which I thought would work fine in Kontakt v1.5 , which I purchased as a cross-grade
    from Kompakt . After converting in Kontakt the files load just fine but the only problem is the loops CLICK and pop on almost all the patches , if I do a small x-fade in sample mod it remedies most but not all clicks and its a real time killer to do this to every layer in each patch .
    Any one have experience with this combination [ Kontakt , GIGA format import ].
    I'm also thinking of just picking up GIGA studio [ maybe the SOLO ver ] what are your thoughts ?


    Fantastic help !
    Thank you
    Julius

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