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    A New Jazz-Trumpet

    Hi,
    I´m working on a new Jazz-Trumpet.
    Here is the first demo:
    http://www.wizardmedia.de/trumpet/trumpetdemo1.mp3
    And the trumpet solo:
    http://www.wizardmedia.de/trumpet/trumpetdemo1solo.mp3

    It will have:
    - Solo trumpet and section
    - 27 different playing tecniques (keyswitch, modwheel, cc) ALL IN ONE PRESET!
    - up to 20! dynamics per note
    - ca. 3.500 Samples
    - 40 Midicontrollers including Reverb, Delay, Chorus, EQ
    - Midi-control-specials like: wind-control, growl-control, extra-attack ...

    There is no video yet, but the controllers are quite the same as in my saxophon:

    Flash small:
    http://www.wizardmedia.de/audiodemos...%20De_300k.swf
    Flash large:
    http://www.wizardmedia.de/audiodemos...%20D_Large.swf
    Quicktime:
    http://www.wizardmedia.de/audiodemos...Demo_Large.mov

    Chris Hein

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    Re: A New Jazz-Trumpet

    pretty darn good IMO. And certainly a lot more extensive than Quantum Leap trumpet.

    But kind of the same limitation from note to note that i keep hearing. But it is a sample after all.

    Still a nice accomplishment!

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    Re: A New Jazz-Trumpet

    Chris,

    sounds super..can I try it out?

    Alan Russell
    Please Visit My New & Revised Official Website Below

    http://AlanRussell-Music.com

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    Re: A New Jazz-Trumpet

    Great leap forward but unlike your sax this one still has a bit of that synthy quality to it. Especially when playing chords.

    Any way to improve on that?

    Other than that it's really good.

    Jose

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    Re: A New Jazz-Trumpet

    Wow, thank you for your compliments and your helpfull suggestions.

    Marty: "But kind of the same limitation from note to note that i keep hearing"

    Yes, I´m still working on the legato. I tryed a real legato, but that sounds very synthetic.
    A legatosample ,like VSLs note to note, works for slow melodys only.
    But if you listen to a real trumpet, the sound of the velve is not the kind of legato you can do with sax or string. It always has a little attack.
    Thats softer on a fluegelhorn (wich comes when my trombone is done.)

    Alan Russell: "sounds super..can I try it out?"

    I hope I´m ready with Altosax, Tenorsax and Trumpet middle of may.
    Shall I send you an email then?

    Jose: "...this one still has a bit of that synthy quality to it."

    Hmm, maybee I tuned it too perfect. It starts flanging when playing chords.
    Do you mean that? Or is it maybee the reverb? Thats the FX from Kontakt.
    I mean, there is nothing syntetic in it but I will check it again.


    I´m on the way to create a complete Big-Band Brass-Library.
    Next will be trombone, muted Trumpet, Fluegelhorn, Soprano & Baritonsax.

    Any more suggestions or wishes?
    What would you pay for a single instrument like this?

    Thanks again,

    Chris Hein

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    Re: A New Jazz-Trumpet

    Sounds nice!

    Don't suppose youre going to have any "wah wah" mute articulations are you? I've needed that bond sound on several projects and cant find an existing lib that has it.

    Rich

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    Libraries for sale??

    I like the sound of these instruments.......are the libraries for sale?.....can't see anything on the website. If so, where can I purchase them?

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    Re: A New Jazz-Trumpet

    The sound is pretty good. As a trumpet player...I have strong opinions on trumpet samples. A big problem with trumpet samples in the market today, is that no one has been able to capture the realism of slurred notes from one to the other. Everything is recorded and sampled as a tongued note. But in a musical line...especially in jazz...many notes are slurred from one to the other by changing the valves only...and not using the tongue to articulate the note at all. So fast lines on samples are all played with the tongue articulation and it starts to sound fake. The slower note samples sound more real because they are rarely slurred.

    I am not sure how to effectively sample slurred notes. Eliminating the tongue articulation in the wave file is not the same thing. Perhaps...recording a trumpet player playing all of their scales (in various tempos to a metronome) with only slurred notes up and down at various speeds. Then, wave editing later to seperate out the slurred pitches in the wave file and map them to the different notes on the keyboard at the various note speeds. Just a thought.
    Regards,
    Brian W. Ralston

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  9. #9

    Re: A New Jazz-Trumpet

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Hein
    Wow, thank you for your compliments and your helpfull suggestions.


    Alan Russell: "sounds super..can I try it out?"

    I hope I´m ready with Altosax, Tenorsax and Trumpet middle of may.
    Shall I send you an email then?

    IChris Hein
    Chris,

    why certainly...E-mail me and let me know..

    Alan Russell
    Please Visit My New & Revised Official Website Below

    http://AlanRussell-Music.com

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    Re: A New Jazz-Trumpet

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian W. Ralston
    Perhaps...recording a trumpet player playing all of their scales (in various tempos to a metronome) with only slurred notes up and down at various speeds. Then, wave editing later to seperate out the slurred pitches in the wave file and map them to the different notes on the keyboard at the various note speeds. Just a thought.
    I think Brian has a good suggestion. I've always thought that would be a great thing to try with strings. Have them play scales up and down, maybe even very slowly, and then seperate them in editing. If you're not too far in, you should give that a go.

    Great work, by the way. I think the sax sounds amazing. Is it available for sale in the US?

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