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    Opportunity knocking...

    I just got this in my e-mail. I doubt that I'll pursue this, but I thought it might be of interest to a lot of you.

    Good luck.

    Dan

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    Dear Sir or Madam:

    We are seeking a talented music composer for our feature film, "Dog Jack."
    The movie tells the story of runaway slave boy and his dog who join the
    102nd Pennsylvania Volunteers during the Civil War. The film was shot
    during the summer of 2005 and is currently in post-production.

    We are looking for a gifted composer who can compose instrumental theme
    music of nothing less than academy award-winning theatrical feature film
    quality, capturing the emotional feel of plantation slave life and soldier
    life in the 1860's. We're open to music with a big symphonic feel (e.g.
    Aaron Copeland ballad) or something on a smaller scale which reflects the
    essence of a period Civil War or southern plantation folk song.

    Ideally, you would bring your unique ideas to the project, be sensitive to
    the story and its characters, work well with the post-production team and
    come up with multiple music ideas before locking in.

    We offer a stipend of up to $2000 for scoring the entire film or less for
    providing a portion of the music. It is O.K. if you live out of town. The
    position is open immediately and can serve to provide valuable exposure and
    feature film experience for the right individual.

    A little bit about myself and our company. Chicago-based McDougal Films has
    been producing films for 20+ years and has a stellar reputation for
    integrity and quality. Three of my family short films won numerous national
    and international awards, including the Best Film of the Year award from
    ICVM. My full length feature, "The Prodigy" was released to 4000+
    Blockbuster Video stores in 2000. After finishing a three year
    professor-in-residence position at Regent University's Graduate School of
    Film and Television, I've moved back to Chicago with my wife, Nevila, son,
    Eddie (8) and daughter, Emilia.

    If you're interested in the position, kindly send a demo to:

    McDougal Films
    Att'n: Dog Jack Music
    341 Linder Avenue
    Northfield, IL 60093

    If you can send a DVD or VHS of a dramatic film you've scored, it would be
    helpful, but not required. Please make sure your phone number and email
    appear on both the cd/dvd/tape and accompanying case. We generally don't
    return submitted demo material, so please send us something you can part
    with.

    I'm looking forward to hearing from you and possibly working together.

    Sincerely,



    Edward T. McDougal, Producer/Director, "Dog Jack"
    houseofcinema@yahoo.com
    www.dogjackmovie.com
    Dan Powers
    www.danielpowers.info

    "It's easier to be a composer than it is to compose."
    --Ray Luke (1928-2010)

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    Re: Opportunity knocking...

    [QUOTE=danpowers]
    compose instrumental theme
    music of nothing less than academy award-winning theatrical feature film
    quality

    We offer a stipend of up to $2000 for scoring the entire film or less for
    providing a portion of the music.
    [QUOTE]

    ROBBERY!!

    Seeking a composer in a Dear Sir/Madam email is dodgy enough.

    I wouldn't touch it. Someone who thinks they can get Acadamey Award Winning music for $2,000 does not undertand the business. He is looking for some young buck to bleed dry, and then probably fire them when the music he hears sounds like S~~t.

    "This will give you important exposure" is the oldest carrot in the book.

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    Re: Opportunity knocking...

    Quote Originally Posted by dubaifox
    "This will give you important exposure" is the oldest carrot in the book.
    B-I-N-G-O

    A little bit about myself and our company. Chicago-based McDougal Films has been producing films for 20+ years and has a stellar reputation for
    integrity and quality.
    Thus, he is able to offer $2000 for a film score. Nice budget there, Academy hopeful!

    Houston Haynes - Titan Line Music

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    Re: Opportunity knocking...

    Thanks, both of you. That really needed to be said.

    Richard

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    Re: Opportunity knocking...

    $2,000... I could retire!

    Based in Northfield, Illinois, well... he did just finish his postgrad, so who knows what this might be.

    BUT... it might be interesting to contact him. Actually, it might be a nice break for some of us schmucks who are just starting out.

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    Re: Opportunity knocking...

    Good luck and God Speed.
    Houston Haynes - Titan Line Music

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    Re: Opportunity knocking...

    You know, for some people who are not deep into the business and are trying to climb the steps, i personally don't think it's a bad idea to do something like this.

    There are so many young musicians working for free on student films or game mods etc. trying to get the name heard. 2000$ is better than nothing anyway and you get some credits on top. Right?

    And since the title suggests, there's a Latin proverb that goes like this: "Opportunity has hair in front, behind she is bald; if you seize her by the forelock, you may hold her, but, if suffered to escape, not Jupiter himself can catch her again."

    Those Latin dudes knew a lot of stuff...just think that they still make the lyrics for most of the cool orcestral/choral songs nowadays - even though they are all dead! So grab the opportunity cause it might not knock twice.
    Theo Krueger - Composer

    www.TheoKrueger.com

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    Re: Opportunity knocking...

    Quote Originally Posted by Theodor
    You know, for some people who are not deep into the business and are trying to climb the steps, i personally don't think it's a bad idea to do something like this.

    There are so many young musicians working for free on student films or game mods etc. trying to get the name heard. 2000$ is better than nothing anyway and you get some credits on top. Right?

    And since the title suggests, there's a Latin proverb that goes like this: "Opportunity has hair in front, behind she is bald; if you seize her by the forelock, you may hold her, but, if suffered to escape, not Jupiter himself can catch her again."

    Those Latin dudes knew a lot of stuff...just think that they still make the lyrics for most of the cool orcestral/choral songs nowadays - even though they are all dead! So grab the opportunity cause it might not knock twice.
    I agree. I was paid $1500 for my first film with some back end participation that never happened. However, later on it aired on late night TV twice and I made about $20,000 in royalties as I had the main title, 2 other featured songs and about 40 minutes of underscore.

    So if you are not that experienced this is a good opportunity. The problem is that is sounds like they want someone very good and very experienced and that they do not have a realistic expectation of what can be done with so little money.
    Composer, Logic Certified Trainer, Level 2,
    author of "Going Pro with Logic Pro 9."

    www.jayasher.com

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    Re: Opportunity knocking...

    While I certainly understand the sentiment, I think that the criticisms are in some parts a little harsh. Although the form-mail greeting and vagueness ("stipend ...up to $2000" - ahh based on what, and for what? so it could be a $2.00 stipend for a score with live orchestra?) make it seem a little less than straight up, at least there is an offer of money which lands this more in what I would call a decently paid opportunity for someone starting out, to provide a synth/sample-based score, perhaps with themselves playing on it. The 'dangling carrot' of 'exposure' is usually the catcher on the one-quadrillion posts you see looking for a composer, sorry, we can't pay you we had a $0 budget deal.

    I think it's more of a case of "that's not for me" rather than "this is a slap in the face of the profession" which so many of these solicitations are.

    Am I wrong or am I wrong?

    Post Script: Ashermusic's post above (who slipped his in before mine, durn him!) says it well - from someone with more experience than I, too.

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    Re: Opportunity knocking...

    It sounds like a scam to me (as in, we'll pay you after you're done...but never actually send a check).

    There's nothing wrong for young hopefuls to try and work on lower budgeted films, but in this case they don't want a young inexperienced composer, they are looking for Oscar material....remember?

    Sounds so fishy it ain't even funny!
    >>Kays
    http://www.musicbykays.com
    Music Composition for Feature Films, Television and Interactive Entertainment

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