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    Is anyone here interested in doing this and splitting the costs?

    http://www.symphonicworkshops.com/recfest2006.htm

    They require 2 hours of booking time.

    If I had 3 participants to join me we could split the cost 4 ways and each record a short piece. $2000 is out of my range, but $500 or $250 would be doable, and it would be worth it to have a recording of my music.

    If I get enough responses (up to $2000) then we can all record. I値l find a reliable treasurer (like perhaps Gary if he値l be so kind) to just take the payments and send the check.

    Believe me, I am strapped for cash too, but sooner or later, I have to get something else recorded for real. College orchestras have been too busy and I've used this service before.

    Listen here:
    http://hopkins.composerarts.com/aud...railermusic.mp3

    No travel or lodging is necessary. I値l be having a conductor do it and send the masters back. If anyone needs any help with sheet music preparation or orchestration checking, I can probably do that for you. Just email the files.
    http://hopkins.composerarts.com

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    Re: Chipping in for real orchestra? Anyone interested?

    Do be careful what you write; they aren't the most accomplished group of players (particularly the Brass).

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    Re: Chipping in for real orchestra? Anyone interested?

    I would be interested, but:

    1st off, add $100 for the conductor, and some odd money for any editing that would be required. Ok, no biggie there, but:

    "With the minimum booking it would be possible to complete some smaller recordings in one day"

    So, how much do you actually expect to get done in 110 minutes? Will that be enough time to record three or four short peices, including rehearsals? My experiences with recording real and live people, is that you always wind up spending more time then first anticipated. Tho, I have never recorded with an orchestra, I can imagine the same holds true here as well.

    Again, I am indeed interested, but I must question whether or not anything substantial will get done.

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    Re: Chipping in for real orchestra? Anyone interested?

    Oh yeah - then there is this:

    "Participants should inform us as soon as possible of the repertoire they would like to rehearse and record"

    Followed by:

    "To find out about low cost airfare to Sofia from the US we recommend Robert Laifer at 1 800 346 6314."


    So, does that mean you actually have to be there in person to do this?

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    Re: Chipping in for real orchestra? Anyone interested?

    I recently received a quotation from a Moscow orchestra:

    It looks to me in the same price range (per 4 hour sessions).



    Dear Peter,

    Thank you for the response. We have recorded the soundtrack
    "Addo, the african king" for Holland company Soundpalette,
    some samples are here: http://www.soundpalette-music.com

    I'm sending the current price schedule for the info, below
    and looking forward to your recordings in Moscow.

    Sincerely,
    Marina

    Marina Doubovskova
    A & M Producers Group
    7-2-62 Blvd Karbysheva
    123154 Moscow Russia
    Tel/Fax: +7 095 374 0256
    E-mail: m.doubovskova@ru.net
    http://www.geocities.com/moscowrecordings


    A 4-hours recording session is as follows, in euros:

    studio rent: 480
    sound engineer: 120
    protools engineer: 80
    conductor: 250
    each musician (orchestra/choir): 52
    contractor: 100
    10% - administrative expenses

    The equipment is free of charge.
    All the instruments, engineer's assistants, librarian, worker,
    orchestra's administrator are included.

    Budget depends on the quantity of sessions and musicians.

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    Re: Chipping in for real orchestra? Anyone interested?

    Answers:
    A) You do not need to go to the recording (saves you the cost of flying there)
    B) I will pay for the conductor and will do the editing myself to save costs
    C) The brass is good. Listen to my demo.
    D) Yes, the music is needed as soon as possible, but PDFs and Finale files are accepted electronically. (It would help if you did your own parts, but in a pinch, I'll help). I can convert your files to PDF if you need.
    E) I am getting a treasurer to collect and send our money.
    F) They say they can do a half hour of music in the 2 hour block. (they did mine in a 1 to 4 ration as well and the results sound fine.)
    http://hopkins.composerarts.com

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    Re: Chipping in for real orchestra? Anyone interested?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse Hopkins
    No travel or lodging is necessary. I値l be having a conductor do it and send the masters back. If anyone needs any help with sheet music preparation or orchestration checking, I can probably do that for you. Just email the files.
    personally, i wouldn't feel comfortable sending off a score and waiting for a recording to come back. maybe if i had a long standing relationship with the conductor.

    WAY too many variables there. i'd at least want some kinda feed to the session so i could give notes as they rehearsed.

    just my 2「

    john
    John DeBorde

    Composer of Music for Film, TV and Interactive Media

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    Re: Chipping in for real orchestra? Anyone interested?

    Quote Originally Posted by John DeBorde
    personally, i wouldn't feel comfortable sending off a score and waiting for a recording to come back. maybe if i had a long standing relationship with the conductor.

    WAY too many variables there. i'd at least want some kinda feed to the session so i could give notes as they rehearsed.

    just my 2「

    john
    Well, it worked for me. It's way better than nothing. A dream come true, really.
    http://hopkins.composerarts.com

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    Re: Chipping in for real orchestra? Anyone interested?

    A feature article about my experience with Eastern European Orchestras was published in Electronic Musician a number of years ago. David Rubin, one of the editors also tried it out. You can read the article here.

    http://emusician.com/mag/emusic_real_thing/index.html

    Things have changed since then. There are more orchestras in Eastern Europe now available. Also, some orchestras are not as good as others and try to listen to demos if possible. The dollar is not as strong but it is still a bargain compared to the US.

    It is important to have a good relationship with the conductor and that the condictor speaks your language and knows precisely what you want to do with your music.

    Gary Garritan

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    Re: Chipping in for real orchestra? Anyone interested?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse Hopkins
    Well, it worked for me. It's way better than nothing. A dream come true, really.
    well, if you got back what you were expecting to hear, then that's awesome.

    based on my experience, i wouldn't expect that to be the case, but i'm glad to hear that it's possible.
    John DeBorde

    Composer of Music for Film, TV and Interactive Media

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