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    KH Chamber Strings Demos

    There will be many more, but for now, I've put up a couple. They're old "War Horses" as I'm sure you'll all recognize the pieces. These demos were literally dropped in from the score. I realize I could do some more tweaking, but thought it would be nice to show how they sound when you just pop them in without too much fussing around. Besides, I haven't had any time to compose anything especially for them since I'm still racing to get the Giga version done.

    Until I compose something, I wanted to demonstrate the Chamber Strings' lush and slow feel in:
    Pachelbel Canon in D

    And the "fast and furious" in:
    Vivaldi Four Seasons "Winter"

    You can hear the demos at:
    http://www.kirkhunterstudios.com/v2d...chamberstrings

    Thanks, and Happy Holidays!
    Kirk

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    Re: KH Chamber Strings Demos

    very nice kirk - I like the sounds - quick question - will there be any difference in content (i.e. programs) and bit rate from the Kontakt vs. the Giga vers. of this lib...? thanks! Happy Holidays to you and all of the other wonderful folks providing so many great tools for us
    Jeff

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    Re: KH Chamber Strings Demos

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Beal
    very nice kirk - I like the sounds - quick question - will there be any difference in content (i.e. programs) and bit rate from the Kontakt vs. the Giga vers. of this lib...? thanks! Happy Holidays to you and all of the other wonderful folks providing so many great tools for us
    Jeff
    The bit rate will be the same in both platforms. However, even tho' I will make the programs as comparable as I can, there might be a slight difference in the way Gigastudio handles the stuff. Especially the repeated notes. In other words, the "Winter" demo would not be able to be done as perfectly in the Gigastudio version, but would still sound very good. This is because since I'm still programming in Giga 2.5x, there is no Midi iRule that addresses repeated notes. Therefore (and I should get a kickback from NI) with Chamber strings, I would really opt to get Kontakt 2 for this set if only for this feature.

    Thanks,
    Kirk
    P.S. Jeff, thanks for the "Medium" demo you did even tho' it used the now defunct Concert Series Strings.

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    Re: KH Chamber Strings Demos

    I love that sound.

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    Re: KH Chamber Strings Demos

    But I have to add, that I think you should work on the Pachelbel a bit more, and post it later, there are some parts, that sound synthetic. Maybe you should work a bit more with the dynamics and redo the trills. But seems like you made a wonderful library!

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    Re: KH Chamber Strings Demos

    Quote Originally Posted by Benecs
    ...there are some parts, that sound synthetic.
    I noticed that, too. I am wondering if it is the mp3 compression. To my ears strings always have that flanging sound in mp3s. Cymbals, too. It was very pronounced in this demo, though. Not worried about it, though. Kirk always produces top notch libraries. I'm sure he's burning the midnight oil to get the Giga version out.

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    Re: KH Chamber Strings Demos

    Right - My preference would actually be Giga 3 format with the round robin stuff there, but I'll go for K2 vers. for now - thanks for quick reponse - jeff

    Quote Originally Posted by KirkHunter
    The bit rate will be the same in both platforms. However, even tho' I will make the programs as comparable as I can, there might be a slight difference in the way Gigastudio handles the stuff. Especially the repeated notes. In other words, the "Winter" demo would not be able to be done as perfectly in the Gigastudio version, but would still sound very good. This is because since I'm still programming in Giga 2.5x, there is no Midi iRule that addresses repeated notes. Therefore (and I should get a kickback from NI) with Chamber strings, I would really opt to get Kontakt 2 for this set if only for this feature.

    Thanks,
    Kirk
    P.S. Jeff, thanks for the "Medium" demo you did even tho' it used the now defunct Concert Series Strings.

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    Re: KH Chamber Strings Demos

    Were these chamber sections made by layering the samples from the KH solo strings library? That's kind of what it's sounding like to me.

    Thanks.

    EDIT: And if they were layered from the solo strings, was this done in 24 bits or 16? Sorry for these slightly techie quesitons, but it's bloody cold here today and I may be suffering from brain freeze.

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    Re: KH Chamber Strings Demos

    Kirk, I hope you don't think I was being intrusive with my question. I realize that as a developer you have to keep your cards close to your chest and that you may be reticent to give up any in-house techniques, lest a competitor try and leap frog your hard work.

    The reason I ask about the layering is that a couple of months ago when doing a few cues for a student short film here at BU, I needed a chamber string sound to make it all work. So what I did was to layer some of your solo strings by offsetting the attacks, re-panning, a little filtering, and finally some detuning.

    It worked pretty well, and the sound was very similar to what I heard in the chamber strings demos you posted (though I'm certainly no Vivaldi or Pachelbel ), so I thought that maybe this was the technique you used. If so, it should be a real time saver for the user. It took me awhile to get my layering to sound just so.

    Anyway, just curious.

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    Re: KH Chamber Strings Demos

    Hey Kirk, I know you're probably with family and friends now, so I hope my incessant question-asking is not too annoying (I have no life. ).

    If you don't mind, and if you're interested to know what I'm talking about regarding the possible layering of your solo strings to get this chamber string sound, when I get back to Boston I might do a partial mockup of the Pachelbel piece using those layered solo strings of yours, and then post the resulting audio file for comparison (if I can find a good free host - any suggestions?). The similarity of the sustains between your chamber strings and my layered KH solo strings is uncanny, but I think the ultimate test will be to do it using the same music.

    Maybe curiosity killed the cat , but I don't start school again until two weeks so I've got plenty of time on my hands and once I get something in my head like this I like to see it through. Anyway, I'd be interested to hear your opinion, and other people's as well, so I'll know whether or not I need to get my ears cleaned.

    Anyway, if you *did* layer, I'm sure you did a much better job of it than I did, and it should be a real time-saver for the user IMO. Mine was sort of quick and dirty, and I know that with more time and experimentation one could get even better results than what I came up with.

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