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    GPO/Sibelius 4 demo posted

    This is a kind of "Miniature Symphony" [very miniature at that - it only lasts about just under 3 minutes!], I've just recently finished using the new Sib4/GPO program.
    Here is the link to my SibeliusMusic site web page mp3 file.

    http://www.sibeliusmusic.com/mp3/8/0/7/80704.mp3

    Hope you enjoy listening to it.

    I created the audio file in Sibelius4/GPO by exporting the orchestra in sections as an audio file, then I added the Cakewalk Sonitus Reverb to it in my Home Studio 2004. So, what you are hearing is the audio file from Sib4/GPO with reverb added to it.

    Obviously classical/modern influenced in the the harmonies are very tonal, but the meter is in 5/4 which gives it a bit of that modern feel I suppose.

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    Re: GPO/Sibelius 4 demo posted

    This sounds wonderful!!!

    I really enjoyed the composition and the sound quality is remarkable. I am seriously considering upgrading to GPO/Sib4 (I have Sib 3 right now).

    Would you reccommend it?

    Also, what are your system specs?

    I have an iMac 1.8Ghz with 1024 MB RAM. Do you think I would be able to play a composition of your magnitude on my system?

    Back to the composition, I thought it was a beautiful blend of modern music with a traditional root, that's something for me to aspire towards.

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    Re: GPO/Sibelius 4 demo posted

    Excellent work! And great sound on it.

    But Steve, it seems like you dove straight into a development section, here.

    The writing is top-flight, impressively well done. Could I suggest perhaps you consider working further with this... it'd be a danged shame if you didn't bring this along more -- it's a goldmine just hollering at you to be refined and fleshed out to its full potential!

    This one gets a...

    Bravo!

    David
    www.DavidSosnowski.com
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    Re: GPO/Sibelius 4 demo posted

    That was a fun little romp. Great orchestration, I love woodwinds.

    The reverb sounded quite nice. Sib4 seems to do a very good job; pretty impressive for notation. The one distraction, not a composition thing, is the machine-gun effect on repeated notes. I hope GPOA solves that. Have you tried those Var1 and Var2 settings yet? Even a little (10-20), helps.

    YBaCuO

    listen to my latest electronic ambient sagas:
    The Abyss http://www.wusik.com/song.php?id=1078
    Hope is Never Extinguished http://www.wusik.com/song.php?id=1092

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    Re: GPO/Sibelius 4 demo posted

    First, thank you to all for your helpful observations and comments.

    Vissequ, you asked about My computer specifications - they are 1 and a half gigs of ram. I have a pentium 4 processor, and the rest of the details I'm not too sure of as a friend of mine who builds computers built this for me.

    I think on the Sibelius website there is something about the computer reccomendations for the set up, and I just copied and pasted this here for you from the site...

    and the link to it if you want to check out more info is:

    http://www.sibelius.com/products/gpo_sibelius/

    I hope this info is helpful, and here it is...

    System requirements

    Requires 2GB hard disk space (in addition to Sibelius 4); Windows XP (or some Windows 2000 configurations); Mac OS 10.3.9 or later; DVD drive; Sibelius 4. Additionally:
    Scores that use up to about 8 different sounds:

    * Windows: 1.8Ghz processor or faster, 1Gb+ RAM (1.5Gb+ recommended), preferably ASIO compatible sound card
    * Mac: G4/G5, 1GB+ RAM (1.5GB+ recommended)

    Scores that use up to about 20 different sounds:

    * Windows: 2.5GHz processor or faster, 1.5Gb RAM. ASIO-compatible sound card strongly recommended (not sound chip on motherboard), preferably separate graphics card
    * Mac: 1.8GHz processor or faster, 1.5GB+ RAM

    Scores that use reverb or more than 20 different sounds will need a faster processor and more RAM.




    Oh yes, Et lux, you made an observation about the development - yes, I did plunge a little too quickly into the development. But, now that you've made helpful observation there, maybe I will take it further and see what I can do with this.
    The orchestration was piccolo, flute, oboe, clarinet, bassoon, 3 french horns, timp, and strings, and it could do with a bit of a bigger orchestral sound maybe also.
    It seems you've all enjoyed listening to the demo, so thats great. Thanks to all of you for your comments, they are all very helpful.

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    Re: GPO/Sibelius 4 demo posted

    Re: Var1, Var2

    Read the Manual! (because I can't remember well ...)

    If you have the updates installed, then you have to read the update notes.

    For the updates:
    you want to draw in CC curves CC#22 and CC#23. Ideally, you only want to draw them in during those repeat-type passages. But I often get lazy and just put one value at the beginning of the track (try it). I am guessing that CC#22 is the pitch var, it should be small try 0-10 (okay 5). Then the CC#23 is the timbre/filter Var and it can be slightly larger 0-40 (okay 25). (But I could have it backwards).

    Do you know what CCs are? Use Cakewalk for that. Just add a controller event at the beginning of the track (or draw it in if you have a tool). The effect is very small, I imagine that it helps but who knows. Your ears will guide you.

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    Re: GPO/Sibelius 4 demo posted

    Quote Originally Posted by YBaCuO
    Re: Var1, Var2

    Read the Manual! (because I can't remember well ...)

    If you have the updates installed, then you have to read the update notes.

    For the updates:
    you want to draw in CC curves CC#22 and CC#23. Ideally, you only want to draw them in during those repeat-type passages. But I often get lazy and just put one value at the beginning of the track (try it). I am guessing that CC#22 is the pitch var, it should be small try 0-10 (okay 5). Then the CC#23 is the timbre/filter Var and it can be slightly larger 0-40 (okay 25). (But I could have it backwards).

    Do you know what CCs are? Use Cakewalk for that. Just add a controller event at the beginning of the track (or draw it in if you have a tool). The effect is very small, I imagine that it helps but who knows. Your ears will guide you.
    YBaCuO,

    thanks. I found this in the manual, and I will definitely look carefully at the information you gave.

    thanks again!

    Steve.

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    Re: GPO/Sibelius 4 demo posted

    I would echo the above sentiments, but particularly the "great job" aspect. It's a very strong piece. It's neat how well integration with Sibelius works; the realization is already on the raod with very little tweaking. I would just add a note regarding the strings: the previous posts have some good ideas for more string realisism - have you looked into the idea of ensemble building? There are some good tutorials on the subject on Garritan site, but the idea is this: rather than just using the string section, you can build it out of seperate, individual instruments. Might be worth a look.
    Again, very well done. Thank you for sharing it with us!

    R. Pearl

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    Re: GPO/Sibelius 4 demo posted

    Oooooh, that demo not only is a great composition, but it also makes me crave for the Sibelius 4 Upgrade+ the GPO Player.... Unfotunately it will be another month or 2 before that happens...
    Greetings from Vienna!
    Peter
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    Re: GPO/Sibelius 4 demo posted

    Steve:

    A great demo, a great piece. Agree with all of the above and especially about making this piece a real symphonic movement (12-15 minutes).

    Also, impressed with Sibelius 4 and it's ability to do sample playback along with its fine notational features.

    Bravo!

    Jack Cannon
    Jack Cannon--MacBook Pro (2015, 13") GPO4/5, JABB3, Auth. STEINWAY, YAMAHA CFX, Gofriller CELLO, Stradivari VIOLIN, COMB2, WORLD, HARPS, PIPE ORGANS, FINALE 2014.5, Mac Pro 2.66 GHz CPU, 8 GB RAM, DP 9.5, MOTU Traveler, MOTU Micro Express, MacBook Pro (2012, 13") 2.2 Ghz CPU, 8 GB RAM.

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