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    Any reason to by White Grand if you have TBO?

    Hello,

    I'm interested in purchasing one of these pianos. I play a lot of R&B/soul and some rock, so it seems like the White Grand would be the obvious choice. However, judging from the demos, I like the dynamic response of the TBO piano a lot more. How does the TBO sound in a mix?

    Thanks!
    -Girl6

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    Re: Any reason to by White Grand if you have TBO?

    Personally, I'd get TBO. Not to take anything from White Grand at all, but you could EQ TBO to be very close to White Grand. You won't be able to make White Grand feel like TBO...as nice as White Grand is, TBO is a different level of accomplishment.

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    Re: Any reason to by White Grand if you have TBO?

    I have a hunch that the White Grand will be a little easier on your system. I imagine TBO is very demanding. So unless you have lots of RAM etc., this could be a consideration.
    JP
    Last edited by jimmymio; 02-06-2006 at 02:13 AM. Reason: clarify something

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    Re: Any reason to by White Grand if you have TBO?

    Quote Originally Posted by girl6
    Hello,

    I'm interested in purchasing one of these pianos. I play a lot of R&B/soul and some rock, so it seems like the White Grand would be the obvious choice. However, judging from the demos, I like the dynamic response of the TBO piano a lot more. How does the TBO sound in a mix?

    Thanks!
    TBO is more dynamic. Since it has 93 different samples/recorded note, (31 pedal up, 31 pedal down and 31 release) it captures the pianos dynamic response like no other sampled piano on the market.
    Mind you, White Grand isn't bad in that department either. it has 36 sample/recorded note, (16 pedal up, 16 pedal down and 4 releasesamples).
    White Grand is a bright piano. One could almost call it the Stratocaster in sampled pianos!
    With that meaning that it isn't a piano that you would play your Mozart on! (Yes, I know that some does anyway!)
    TBO also has a well defined timbre. It is a Yamaha C7 and it's miked close, but we used some vintage Neumann's on that to get the warmth and still keep the "SampleTekk-sound".
    White Grand is a piano designed to wiork in a mix, and it has proven that in many, many recordings, both on record, TV and film.
    I'd recommend you to download the 2 octave and all the C's playable demos.
    You can get the White Grand Demo here: http://www.sampletekk.com/wgresource.php
    and the TBO demo here:

    Gigastudio 3 Version
    TBO GS3 Demo Part 1 (195313 kb)
    TBO GS3 Demo Part 2 (195313 kb)
    TBO GS3 Demo Part 3 (152300 kb)

    TBO GS3 Demo Update
    1. Download and unpack the file below
    2. Open the Gigastudio Instrument Editor and load the TBO Demo
    3. Under the File menu, use "Load Articulation File"
    4. Locate and use the .art file you just downloaded
    5. You might get an error message, please disregard that
    6. Save you updatet TBO demo.
    Gigastudio 3 Update

    Kontakt Version (for HALion and EXS24 files, see a bit further down!)
    TBO Kontakt Demo Part 1 (195313 kb)
    TBO Kontakt Demo Part 2 (195313 kb)
    TBO Kontakt Demo Part 3 (151902 kb)

    TBO Kontakt Demo Update
    1. Download and unpack the file below
    2. Place the .nki files in the same folder as the other TBO Demo .nki files
    3. Done!
    Kontakt Update

    TBO HALion 2/3 Demo Files
    1. Download the three Demo files "Kontakt Demo Part 1-3"
    2. Unpack the files to your harddisk
    3. Download the HALion files below
    4. Unpack the .fxp files and place them in the "TBO Multi Demo" folder
    5. Done!

    HALion 2/3 files

    TBO EXS24 Demo Files
    1. Download the three Demo files "Kontakt Demo Part 1-3"
    2. Unpack the files to your harddisk
    3. Download the EXS24 files below
    4. Unpack the .exs files and place them in your EXS24 Instrument folder
    5. Download the special EXS 24 release samples below
    6. Unpack the files. This will give you a folder containing the special EXS24 release samples.
    7. Move the samples withing this folder to the "Samples" folder from step 2. The system will say that the files already exsists and ask if it's ok to replace them. IT IS!!!
    8. Now, EXS24 can not handle this many samples in one instrument, so you have three instruments. Load them all three in three different EXS24 instances
    9. Create an instrument in the enviroment and name it TBO
    10. Connect that instrument in paralell to the three EXS24 instruments
    11. Done!

    EXS24 files
    EXS24 release samples


    Here's a description over the patches in the TBO Demo Update:
    TBO – All 31 velocities evenly distributed over the range. Use this one for experimenting with new patches.
    TBO 1 – All 31 velocities included, but the top levels, where keys are hit extremely hard are placed at the very top of the velocity spectra.
    TBO 2 – The top, extreme velocity layers are removed leaving “only” 28 layers. Since the top three layers comes from hitting keys really, and I mean REALLY hard, you might not want to reach those ever…
    TBO 3 – Economy patch. Uses 16 velocity layers
    TBO 4 – Economy patch. Uses 8 velocity layers
    Worra
    SampleTekk

    Arf, arf, arf...

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    Re: Any reason to by White Grand if you have TBO?

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmymio
    I have a hunch that the White Grand will be a little easier on your system. I imagine TBO is very demanding. So unless you have lots of RAM etc., this could be a consideration.
    JP
    TBO's samples are 24 bits. I converted them to 16 bits to get more polyphony when I play on it, and to be less hard drive and cpu demanding.

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    Re: Any reason to by White Grand if you have TBO?

    Same as above, TBO almost uses my whole system to run just it. AMD 3700 with 2 gigs of ram. Though my HD has a lower seek time (average 11ms) instead of the 8ms suggested! But TBO is the only piano I want to hear right now! Until Garrtian release's the Steinway!
    I held back on ordering anything from Worra's group buy because I have too many choices as it is!
    Later

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    Re: Any reason to by White Grand if you have TBO?

    Quote Originally Posted by xav93
    TBO's samples are 24 bits. I converted them to 16 bits to get more polyphony when I play on it, and to be less hard drive and cpu demanding.
    Isn't TBO available in a 16 bit version?
    JP

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    Re: Any reason to by White Grand if you have TBO?

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmymio
    Isn't TBO available in a 16 bit version?
    JP
    Sure it is! And If you have the 24 bit version, you can get the 16 bit version for only $30.
    If you start buy getting the 16 bit version, you can also upgrade to the 24 bit version for $30
    Worra
    SampleTekk

    Arf, arf, arf...

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    Re: Any reason to by White Grand if you have TBO?

    [QUOTE=Worra]

    ww.sampletekk.com/proddemos/tbo/EXS24.rar]EXS24 files[/url]
    EXS24 release samples



    These links are not working here, Per.
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    Re: Any reason to by White Grand if you have TBO?

    [QUOTE=Ashermusic]
    Quote Originally Posted by Worra

    ww.sampletekk.com/proddemos/tbo/EXS24.rar]EXS24 files[/url]
    EXS24 release samples



    These links are not working here, Per.
    Hmmm, works here.
    Worra
    SampleTekk

    Arf, arf, arf...

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