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    Convolution Reverbs- What is all the hype about?

    Ok, I've decided that maybe it's time to see what all the hype is about and purchase Altiverb 5 for windows XP. Before I plunk down $900 I would love to hear some comments on what people think of Altiverb 5 or other convolution reverbs. Am I going to hear a big difference in quality over, let's say, my Powercore reverbs? Are these new convolution reverbs that good? I guess they must since thats all I seem to hear about for reverbs these days. I would love to hear some comments, though.

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    Re: Convolution Reverbs- What is all the hype about?

    Quote Originally Posted by quantum7
    Ok, I've decided that maybe it's time to see what all the hype is about and purchase Altiverb 5 for windows XP. Before I plunk down $900 I would love to hear some comments on what people think of Altiverb 5 or other convolution reverbs. Am I going to hear a big difference in quality over, let's say, my Powercore reverbs? Are these new convolution reverbs that good? I guess they must since thats all I seem to hear about for reverbs these days. I would love to hear some comments, though.

    Thank you and take care,
    Sean,

    I would seek out a Lexicon PCM 91 or go all in for a TC Reverb 4000. Convolutions are ok, but they won't glue a mix together like the PCM 91 or Reverb 4000. Plus, all the reverbs in Altiverb are somewhat dark and muddy. If you don't want to go the hardware route, I would stick with the VSS 3 verb.

    Hope this helps

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    Re: Convolution Reverbs- What is all the hype about?

    Sean,

    If you buy Altiverb for XP you will also pay that price for the excellent IR's that AudioEase include with their products. So you get a "player" and a lot of "content".
    There are also excellent and cheaper alternatives, like Pristine Space ($ 129). No IR's, but you can also look for good (commercial) IR's on the web, like those from NumericalSound (Ernest Cholakis).
    Although I agree with the previous reply that nothing can replace high quality hardware boxes, that you can tweak (!) to the sound that you personally prefer most, I have done some very detailed comparisons between the TCE System 6000 box (which I once rented) and IR's from its presets: I was not able to hear any differences.
    I say, if you have the budget for Altiverb, get it, you won't be disappointed. Using a hardware box, with the additional digital out and in into your DAW seems like a too much expensive and complicated setup (including the latencies that it will add).
    Last tip: don't go looking for free IR's floating on the web - most of them are very bad, you will certainly be disappointed by the convolution concept then.

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    Re: Convolution Reverbs- What is all the hype about?

    You should use both sorts of reverb.

    D

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    Re: Convolution Reverbs- What is all the hype about?

    With a smart setup of convolution plugin(s) and good IR's you can really can have the same quality as with more expensive hardware units. It's just a matter of experimenting, training your ears, comparing, etc. If money is not a problem, get the best hardware you can buy. If you want to save money, go the virtual road.
    And I don't believe the subtle chorusing on reverb tails is such an interesting feature (being not a realistic/real part of ambience). If you really need it, you can simply fake it by creating a smart plugin chain.

    Creating a good ambience really boils down to fooling our ears/brains (psychoacoustics), not about being physically "correct".

    Another remark: with IR's you really need to understand how "true-stereo" works, otherwise you will not get realistic results.

    (I do realize I make some contradictory remarks here, but anyway...)

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