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Topic: Gift : "the real harmonic script" by O.FRAPPIER

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  1. #21

    Re: Gift : "the real harmonic script" by O.FRAPPIER

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian2112
    Utilities/Self Mask.nkp is included in the Kontakt 2 content. Look in the script presets menu. You will see "utilities". Self Mask.nkp is in there.

    ...2112

    thanks Brian !

    but in 3.33 version you don't have to use this script.Utilities/Self Mask.nkp is
    All others script in the rack should be at empty.


  2. #22

    Re: Gift : "the real harmonic script" by O.FRAPPIER

    OK, so Olivier has inpired me to create my own script - even before he posted his version on this site. Ever since that day we are messaging each other and we work on the scripts parallell, giving feedback to each other. Just a few hours ago he found a major bug in my script ( C3 and C4 together ) that I corrected now.

    I give him credit for the ORIGINAL IDEA and the Inspiration, and thank him for the feedback.

    My goal is to see all our ideas and the perfect final script in Olivier's new Steinway that will be one of the best sampled pianos ever I can hardly wait to play it.

    But, I also would like to share my script with all of you for testing and further feedback, so here it is !

    Please note that as we speak we still have several design and modelling differences between the 2 of us, my script althou similar, not identical to his approach ! Try it

    regards
    Kornel Mezo
    alias maszat

    [CODE]
    {
    This is NOT the latest greatest version of the script. It is shared for educational purposes and to demonstrate my approach to the problem.
    Feel free to contact me if you have any questions.

    ====================
    Piano Sympathetic Resonance Script v1.8
    last modified 2005 April 20

    The script was inspired by Olivier Frappier

    Script written by Kornel Mezo

    Please do not use this script in commercial products unless you contact me first.
    http://www.mezo.com
    ====================
    }

  3. #23

    Re: Gift : "the real harmonic script" by O.FRAPPIER

    And here is the explanation of the UI parameters :

    Number of overtones calculated : reduce the number as needed if you have polyphony problems, then less resonant notes are created.

    dB parameters : attenuation for each overtone, 1st overtone, 2nd etc.

    Fade in and out : the delay of the resonant note

    Display area : shows the sympathetic resonant notes for your last key played on the piano

    Keyboard on : play the notes that you play on the keyboard, or don't play them

    Resonance on : enables symp resonance, or not

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    Re: Gift : "the real harmonic script" by O.FRAPPIER

    Quote Originally Posted by maszat
    Sorry about the indentation, I can not preserve the nice look because this message board reformats the text.
    You can preserve the formatting if you enclose it with code tags instead of quote tags -

    [code] followed by your script then a closing tag

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    Re: Gift : "the real harmonic script" by O.FRAPPIER

    Is Sympathetic Resonance where the harmonics from one note being struck will cause other strings unstruck to also vibrate at their appropriate harmonic tone?

    An easy way to find this effect on a real piano: hold down the C key two octaves below middle C, but don't hit it hard enough to cause any tone. Now press the sustain pedal, and do a quick C G C E G C starting at the C below middle C. Keeping the C1 key down, release the sustain pedal.

    You should hear very light tones of the C chord still resonating.
    Andy Finkenstadt, WinXP, P4-2.8GHZ, 3GB, Sonar 4 PE, Sibelius 3. Yamaha CVP-79A.
    EWQL: Gold, GoldPro, Choirs, StormDrum. and Galaxy & Bosendorfer 290, and RealGuitar. And an empty bank account.

  6. #26

    Re: Gift : "the real harmonic script" by O.FRAPPIER

    Quote Originally Posted by SimuAndy
    Is Sympathetic Resonance where the harmonics from one note being struck will cause other strings unstruck to also vibrate at their appropriate harmonic tone?

    An easy way to find this effect on a real piano: hold down the C key two octaves below middle C, but don't hit it hard enough to cause any tone. Now press the sustain pedal, and do a quick C G C E G C starting at the C below middle C. Keeping the C1 key down, release the sustain pedal.

    You should hear very light tones of the C chord still resonating.

    My script produce this effect.
    in a real piano and pedal up :
    in a real piano if you keep c1 key down and you play quickly others c2 e2 f2 g2 c3 g3... and others (without pedal down)
    you will hear overtone and in the release of pedal down too

    and the rule work up and down ( c4 down and you play c3 - c2 ect)

  7. #27

    Re: Gift : "the real harmonic script" by O.FRAPPIER

    Olivier,
    compliments for your nice piano. It sounds wonderful.
    I have the Galaxy 5.1 and I like the samples very much. (I bought the Galaxy because you told in this forum that Galaxy was the best quality sample).
    Have you tried your real harmonic script with Galaxy?
    Have you build a patch for it?

    Thanks

    Robi

  8. #28

    Re: Gift : "the real harmonic script" by O.FRAPPIER

    Quote Originally Posted by maszat
    I also would like to share my script with all of you for testing and further feedback, so here it is !
    Try it

    regards
    Kornel Mezo
    alias maszat
    WOW, this is very cool!
    The graphic representation of what you hear is very helpful in adjusting the separate overtones. Cool, a must have!

    I think the holy grail of piano sampling is finally in reach.
    We now have:
    - harmonic sympathetic resonances
    - dynamic sustain pedal resonance
    - 3 pedal implementation (sustain, soft pedal and sostenuto)
    - adjustable velocity scaling
    - adjustable tunings (including all non-standard tunings)
    - convolution-based placement and overall ambience
    - 5.1 surround placement

    What else can we add beside IR-based 700 kilograms of wood-and-steel
    Best regards,
    Michiel Post


  9. #29

    Re: Gift : "the real harmonic script" by O.FRAPPIER

    and for some reason those piano makers still don't go bankrupt ... well , then it must be the wood and steel that is missing

    improved version of my script is on the way, I found stability issues and found a way to reduce polyphony load
    the graphic representation does not show the actual velocity, the line lengths represent the overtone distance ( 1st to 5th, 5th is the short line )

  10. #30

    Re: Gift : "the real harmonic script" by O.FRAPPIER

    and for some reason those piano makers still don't go bankrupt ... well , then it must be the wood and steel that is missing
    Let's wait and see what happens when this kind of sampled piano becomes available as a small 19 inch rack. I have Receptor since a few days and this holds incredible promise. It is plug'n'play (midi in, audio out) and plays a very sweet piano... Artists as U2 are using them on-stage now for my piano sounds. With it's friendly price tag I prefer it to any laptop that runs a non-Linnux OS and is a pain to install in a stage rack. Recpetor is as stable as you can imagine and with it's UniWire it does miracles in the studio too.
    Best regards,
    Michiel Post


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