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    Old lady update Kontakt 2.1

    Hi,

    Kontakt 2.1 is now the most advanced sampler for Piano



    I enjoy Kontakt 2.1 so i offer to all old lady user a beta update for the Old Lady and Kontakt 2.1.

    _ convolution pedal down depend on overtones rules and release
    _ convolution pedal up + overtones rules pedal up
    _ new skin
    _ new voices overtones optimization to save CPU

    and enhanced overtones script (protected)


    Enjoy !

    V1.02 here
    http://www.audiolivepro.com/old_lady..._beta_K2.1.zip

    link updated (V1.06) - see reply -

    Regards,

    Olivier

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    Re: free : Old lady skin and update Kontakt 2.1

    Thank's Olivier, interesting example of what K2.1 programming can do for sampled Piano.

    I don't now if you plan to improve this in the future, but here is some comments :

    - Your script take control of the envelop, with a steep attack. This brings light to many sample starts "tics" in the bass notes. (OldLady original instrument overcome samples "tics" with a lazy 1.5ms attack)

    - Sometimes when playing very short chords (with extra-fast grace notes for instance), the PD convolution is bugging and resonnate. NO, I'm not confusing with the releases overtones, this bug is still present when Play_release_con is disabled.

    - Release overtones : interesting programming again. Everybody can adjust the level and the envelop to his taste.
    I will also try other Impuse files, the one you use makes the overtones coming a little from outside of the piano (at least based on headphone : to "left panned")

    Thank's again for sharing this

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    Re: free : Old lady skin and update Kontakt 2.1

    Quote Originally Posted by Laurent
    - Your script take control of the envelop, with a steep attack. This brings light to many sample starts "tics" in the bass notes. (OldLady original instrument overcome samples "tics" with a lazy 1.5ms attack)")
    Yes, i will adjust the value to delete tics.


    Quote Originally Posted by Laurent
    - Sometimes when playing very short chords (with extra-fast grace notes for instance), the PD convolution is bugging and resonnate. NO, I'm not confusing with the releases overtones, this bug is still present when Play_release_con is disabled.")
    It's a bug and not a bug. because i've had a feature :
    in a real piano if you play an event note at the right hand and you have more than 3 keys still down (at left of the event note) you hear :
    _ overtones
    _ and a a beginning of sustain body resonance even if the pedal is up
    (like a half sustain pedal)

    (pedal up : if you have a few damper free (key down), the piano begin to resonate (i don't speak of dry overtones) near the resonance of pedal down (when all dampers are free)

    I've made a algorytm. the amount depend of the KEYS still down.

    The effect + dry overtones add realism.

    But the problem it that the rules still happen when several keys are played in the same times (chord) . i will fix this in the script.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laurent
    - Release overtones : interesting programming again. Everybody can adjust the level and the envelop to his taste.
    I will also try other Impuse files, the one you use makes the overtones coming a little from outside of the piano (at least based on headphone : to "left panned")
    I will add KNOB to control overtones settings and convolution settings

    Regards,

    Olivier

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    Re: free : Old lady skin and update Kontakt 2.1

    Hi laurent ,

    http://www.audiolivepro.com/old_lady..._beta_K2.1.zip

    the zip is updated :

    can you check the convolution ?

    new : K2.1 OLD LADY 1.05 beta.nki

    regards,

    Olivier

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    Re: free : Old lady skin and update Kontakt 2.1

    Hi,

    It's better but there is sometimes a remaining (shorter) "key-convolution" sound after releasing all notes.

    When you do this (all PU) :
    - sustained left hand chords
    - staccato right hand same chords (overtones + "key-conv" effect sound = OK)
    - release left hand chords (overtones are killed but "key-conv" effect still sounds)

    This could be anoying when you release the left hand chord very quickly after having played the right hand one. (the remaining "key-conv" effect is longer than the release effect)

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    Re: free : Old lady skin and update Kontakt 2.1

    Really nice, Thank's!

    Except for a sound that remains after playing big staccato chords.

    The CPU load and DFD usage is massive...

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    Re: free : Old lady skin and update Kontakt 2.1

    Quote Originally Posted by S-dahl
    Really nice, Thank's!

    Except for a sound that remains after playing big staccato chords.

    The CPU load and DFD usage is massive...
    Thanks laurent for feedback !

    So, i have already another version. I will test it more.

    You can reach me at : Frappier.olivier@wanadoo.fr

    Regards,

    Olivier

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    Re: free : Old lady skin and update Kontakt 2.1

    What a horrible sounding thread title...

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    Re: free : Old lady skin and update Kontakt 2.1

    English humor. come on it's a sample library. That was an awesome stomach workout though. My wife still can't stop laughing.

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    Re: free : Old lady skin and update Kontakt 2.1

    Hi Laurent,

    Version 1.06 online for you :

    http://www.audiolivepro.com/Kontakt2..._LADY_1.06.zip




    Olivier

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