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    no more digi inputs on Mackie D8b

    Hi folks - I\'ve got the maximum allowed of 3 opt-8 cards (adat I/O) on my D8b desk one for each of my PCs (loaded with RME hammmerfalls), and am using the d8b\'s Spdif in for my laptop.

    Just about to add another 2 PCs - the only way I can see of upgrading is to go analogue.

    Is there any other solution I\'ve not thought of? like an adat merge box or something?! I usually only use 2 outs from each of the adats so there\'s loads of channels waisted on the d8b.

    Was going to try chaining the new PCs up directly into my main mixing PC\'s Hammerfall (ie bypassing the desk altogether) as it has 2 spare unused adat ins, but I\'m not sure if this will cause further problems monitoring the 2 new PCs outside of the desk environment....

    Someone must have done this....besides buying another D8b....any ideas?

    Ian

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    Re: no more digi inputs on Mackie D8b

    I have all my lightpipe gear go to a Frontier Dakota+Montana, which is a good ADAT patchbay.

    My main DAW sends 2 lightpipes to my mixer, but any of those channels can be a patch from other ADAT ins. The patching doesn\'t incur any noticable latency. Frontier also sells a hardware ADAT patchbay, I can\'t tell if it just patches 8 channels through or if you can patch single channels like the Dakota.

    Also, the Dakota software can store multiple patch configurations.

    I wouldn\'t be surprised if RME also has a patchbay feature, though I don\'t think they did as of a few years ago.

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    Re: no more digi inputs on Mackie D8b

    Try looking at the \"catching up w/ new technology\" article on jeff rona\'s website (www.jeffrona.com), which also appeared in the most recent keyboard mag that i received.

    i believe he addresses this exact issue by using motu 2408\'s as a lightpipe patchbay to strip unused channels from his giga rigs.

    hth

    john

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    Re: no more digi inputs on Mackie D8b

    Sorry no answer, but...


    I\'m in the same boat, I have the HDR set up on the 3 OPT cards and digi001 on the ALT OPT card...


    *What do you have in the ALT slot. May not be a full solution but you could add another OPT 8 if you don\'t have that slot filled.

    I\'m wondering myself if there is some kind of \'switch box\' or something?


    I have a lot of thinking to do as well...


    BTW--Please let me know if you find something, I\'ll do the same!

    Good luck!

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    Re: no more digi inputs on Mackie D8b

    Since RME cards have very low latency and several ADAT interfaces, you could do a daisy-chain:

    pc1->(adat)->pc2->(adat)->Mackie

    You still use the mixer to work with all channels. Of course, if you wanted to use 8 channels in each pc, you couldn\'t, but that is not the case.

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    Re: no more digi inputs on Mackie D8b

    This may not be the way you want to go, but if you record to yor DA or HDR, or whatever, then you can use a patchbay (like the Frontier Apache) To get 24 channels at a time to the d8b (or 32 with the alt OPT.

    OR-use analog for the extra I/O - 24 lightpipe,24 balanced I/O with the RME, 8 more with the ALT cart=56 in, like Greg promised...

    Dasher

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    Re: no more digi inputs on Mackie D8b

    Thanks for the tips guys!

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    Re: no more digi inputs on Mackie D8b

    yes thanks chaps - some good info there - will let you know how it goes with the chaining of the RME\'s first.

    Ian

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    Re: no more digi inputs on Mackie D8b

    got an answer back from Frontier on the apache

    All the routing on Apache is done at the port-to-port level (not channel-to-channel), so the answer to your question is no. Apache has 12 input ports and 12 output ports, and when you create a patch from port 3 to port 10 (for example), all 8 channels from port 3 are routed to all 8 channels of port 10.

    Lanelle
    Frontier Design Group
    <font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">Does anyone know of any other adat patchbays which will let you assign channels within ports?

    Ian

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    Re: no more digi inputs on Mackie D8b

    > Does anyone know of any other adat patchbays
    > which will let you assign channels within ports?

    (Maybe you meant besides Dakota?) Dakota does this, you can check out the manual:
    http://www.frontierdesign.com/Dakota_Guide.PDF

    See page 29, \"Patchbay Tab\"

    I use this all the time, it is really useful.

    I\'m a bit surprised they didn\'t give the Apache the same configuration ability.

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