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    Setting Altiverb on a Midi Channel

    hi,
    sorry if i post here but in the Reverb forum nobody replies ..
    i have Altiverb 5....i really don't know how to set Altiverb on a single Midi Channel....i read the manual but nothing.....ok i have to creat a Fx Track and set Altiverb as Effect....then?? could you please tell me step by step!?? thanks !! i use Cubase 4! Please help!

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    Re: Setting Altiverb on a Midi Channel

    I don't know Cubase, but, you need to make sure the effect is applied to audio, rather than midi, data.

    In Sonar 3.1.1, you have a separate midi tracks and audio track for soft synths. I would apply reverb as an insert to the audio track, or bus the audio from the audio track to an auxilary track and apply the reverb plug in there.

    I hope this helps.

    jeffn1
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    Re: Setting Altiverb on a Midi Channel

    Your MIDI track "controls" the VST instrument such as Kontakt or any other sampler. That means you get at the VST instrument channel the output audio.

    picture - http://www.mijor.de/mixer.JPG

    Now you can use Altiverb as an insert or send effect.

    Insert effect:
    Render the output from the VST instrument to an audio file or use it directly as an insert effect in the insert section of the VST instrument channel. When setting Altiverb as an insert effect you can control the amount of reverb with the Dry/Wet control.

    Send effect:
    Render the output from the VST instrument to an audio file or use the send section in the VST instrument channel. Now create an effects track, which holds Altiverb as an insert effect.

    picture - http://www.mijor.de/channel_fx.JPG

    Be sure the the Dry/Wet ratio is set to 100%, so that you do not duplicate the direct signal. You can now send the desired amout of the dry signal to the effect track.

    picture - http://www.mijor.de/channel.JPG


    Hope this helps. I have Cubase 2 and WizooVerb W2, but I guess the procedure is similar.

    Michael

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    Re: Setting Altiverb on a Midi Channel

    alfr3dd,

    When I want Altiverb on a MIDI channel, I just open it in a VST track that my Nuendo 3 opens automatically for every channel when I open any VSTi. I'm guessing Cubase 4 should have the same feature too. Click on the "e" in the VST track in the sequencer and choose Altiverb from one of the effects slots in the mixer that is going to pop out. That's the only way I was able to get it to work with MIDI, but that method is better for previews of effects rather than bouncing MIDI to audio with the effects recorded.

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    Re: Setting Altiverb on a Midi Channel

    Thanks guys,
    my question was to set a different instance of Altiverb on different midi channels of the same Vst!! Let's say i load my Brass section in K2.....i have 16 midi tracks open for every single instruments...now i want the french horns back in the left, trumpets and trombones back in the right and so on...i think i need an Altiverb on every single Midi Channel to place them differently right??? hope you understand!

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    Re: Setting Altiverb on a Midi Channel

    Hi aLfR3dd, I am replying here.

    When you want to have a different Altiverb instance on each MIDI channel, you need to have the different Altiverb instances on every output from K2.

    1. Route the Horns to Output 1 and the Trombones to Output 2 (in Kontakt2).

    picture - http://www.mijor.de/k2.JPG

    2. Now you can place in each output channel an instance of Altiverb as an insert effect (in Cubase). You control the reverb with the Dry/Wet ratio.

    picture - http://www.mijor.de/cubase_channel_horns.JPG
    picture - http://www.mijor.de/cubase_channel_bones.JPG


    Better solution - more CPU friendly.

    1. Route the Horns and Trombones to Output 1 (in Kontakt2)
    2. Pan the Horns to the left and the Bones to the right (MIDI track)
    3. Create an FX track with Altiverb - Dry/Wet set to 100%.
    4. Open the output channel of the Horns/Bones in Cubase and send the desired amout of direct signal to the reverb FX.

    picture - http://www.mijor.de/better_send.JPG


    Cubase has some tutorials in its manual, I guess. Look there for understanding better the difference between insert and send.

    Michael

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    Re: Setting Altiverb on a Midi Channel

    Quote Originally Posted by michel
    Hi aLfR3dd, I am replying here.

    When you want to have a different Altiverb instance on each MIDI channel, you need to have the different Altiverb instances on every output from K2.

    1. Route the Horns to Output 1 and the Trombones to Output 2 (in Kontakt2).

    picture - http://www.mijor.de/k2.JPG

    2. Now you can place in each output channel an instance of Altiverb as an insert effect (in Cubase). You control the reverb with the Dry/Wet ratio.

    picture - http://www.mijor.de/cubase_channel_horns.JPG
    picture - http://www.mijor.de/cubase_channel_bones.JPG


    Better solution - more CPU friendly.

    1. Route the Horns and Trombones to Output 1 (in Kontakt2)
    2. Pan the Horns to the left and the Bones to the right (MIDI track)
    3. Create an FX track with Altiverb - Dry/Wet set to 100%.
    4. Open the output channel of the Horns/Bones in Cubase and send the desired amout of direct signal to the reverb FX.

    picture - http://www.mijor.de/better_send.JPG


    Cubase has some tutorials in its manual, I guess. Look there for understanding better the difference between insert and send.

    Michael
    Thank you so much Michael ...have a nice week end

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