These were actually the first recordings I made and, as such, there were a few lessons I learned before doing the Zildjan. I suspended the cymbal with a loop of nylon cord through the central hole, which left it very free to resonate, but too mobile. Thus I found it quite hard to get articulations with the heavy, soft beater - whenever I hit the top end of the cymbal the bottom end would vibrate so violently that it made a lot of splashing noises on contact with the water. To avoid this the loud, soft-beater hits aren't actually as loud as I would have liked. Also the bowed samples have less bite, because bowing with much friction caused the cymbal to spin uncontrollably.
For the Zildjan I hit on the idea of taking the spike of a cymbal stand, and lowering the cymbal on that, which left it far less free to move.
Nevertheless these samples make a very good complement for the Zildjan.